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Just because Steve Jobs would have never chosen to pursue a particular business strategy it does not means that said business strategy is wrong.

Apple is now far more profitable under Tim than Steve. That says something about Steve's business sense. He may have been a great inventor and the consummate marketer, but Steve absolutely stank when it can Teo managing supply and demand. :p
 
I only concur with the OP for the new new iPad point. The others ...:rolleyes: I wished there was a better analysis to the "demise" of Apple.
 
You silly people that declare the sky is falling for Apple should lay off the drugs. We have heard this before and we will hear it again from you doom sayers. Goodness, you guys look silly to most of us. ;)

When Woz was inside the garage building the first Apple, I bet there was already a crowd outside saying the company was going downhill.
 
OP, I am caught off guard.:confused: I was thinking that I may have tended to agree with you about the fall of Apple, but after reading your reasoning, I totally disagree with every one of your points. This is how things have been ever since the technological age; first guy pays $599 for a Texas Instruments calculator, next guy pays $599 for an iPad with retina display and A6 processor that has a calculator "app" that blows away that old TI... boo hoo. All of your arguments have been decried for decades, nothing new.

I truly thought that you were going to point to the unprecedented move by Apple to release products with half baked beta apps where critical accuracy is required, such as the 'Maps' app. Or their failure to thoroughly over-see the quality control process of their components makers, which has been in decline for a while now. Or Apple's new move towards poor customer service unless you've bought an over-priced plan or lackadaisical security measures concerning those with Apple accounts and a "sorry but that's the rules I can't help you" when customers call to change their account settings.

But your points, well.. let the thread do the talking.;)
 
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Oh calm down. Everything Apple does is considered a "disappointment" because expectations placed on them are unreachable. Sure the 4th generation iPad was a surprise, but it doesn't equal the "demise of Apple".
 
Firstly, I am a huge Apple supporter and own essentially every product Apple makes, so no, I am not a "hater".

I will keep this short and simple, but I think that what we saw at today's Apple conference was a multitude of business strategies that Steve Jobs would have never chosen to pursue.

Do not assume to know the mind of Steve Jobs. If you did, you wouldn't be posting here, you'd either be working at Apple or making a kick a$$ competitor product.

Your shoe size is too small to walk in the steps of Jobs.
 
Those whom have purchased the original retina iPad are left in the dust with a product that Apple now wants to you believe never even existed. This is simply unfair to those who were early adopters of the retina iPad.

What about the 6th iPhone being called the iPhone 5, essentially saying the 4S never existed? As a 4S user I thought it was a little weird, but I wouldn't call it "unfair" or "disrespectful". It's a phone, life moves on.
 
Ipad mini will be a success as it arrives built on a successful brand and tablet.

Is it the Apple way to play catch up no.

Had Apple not released a 7" I think these tablets would continue to fail anyway.

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Also lets not forget when Ipad was announced everybody said it was a big ipod touch and pointless.

I think the Ipad mini will cater the markets it's intended for that's all. Won't do as well as Ipad 9.7".
 
What about the 6th iPhone being called the iPhone 5, essentially saying the 4S never existed? As a 4S user I thought it was a little weird, but I wouldn't call it "unfair" or "disrespectful". It's a phone, life moves on.

They still sell the 4s on the front page of the iphone store. And, you can still go to the store and buy one.
 
1. The silent refresh of the "new iPad". This one just makes no sense to me. Usually when a new iPad comes out, it is well anticipated and the launch of the newer model brings with it a reduction in price of the old model. The sneaky "silent refresh" seen by Apple today is really a release of "The new iPad v2". By not considering this to be a new model, those whom have purchased the original retina iPad are left in the dust with a product that Apple now wants to you believe never even existed. This is simply unfair to those who were early adopters of the retina iPad.

This is like saying that your local TV station should not screen "Transformers" because it would be unfair to those who paid money to catch it in cinemas half a year ago. :rolleyes:

Early adopters have had a full 7 months to enjoy their new ipad over those who chose not to upgrade. This is their benefit. How is this being unfair to them? Are you saying that just because they bought an ipad earlier, then other consumers do not deserve to get a newer, updated product?

Not to mention that the improvements aren't that significant. 4G is significant for those in countries that could not access it previously (but again, it assumes the consumer is willing to pay for a 4G model and the monthly data fees). Lightning connector may actually be more of an inconvenience, invalidating your earlier docks and cables. A faster processor is nice, but not a game-changer in itself.

I am an owner of a 3rd gen ipad, and I feel I have barely been impacted by the change. :)

3. The "new" iMac". How does it make ANY sense that the presentation goes from boasting about the retina display of the new 13" MBP and how you can't live without it, to discussing the refresh of their desktop line that is inexplicably lacking a retina display? The refresh of the iMac line makes little to no sense. Yes, thinness is nice, but not as important of an attribute for a product that is not portable and is simply planted on your desk. Rather than the updated innards and a slightly thinner bezel, there is almost no reason for any current iMac owner to upgrade to this new model. The fact that the iPhone, iPad and MacBook have all progressed to retina displays while the desktop line has been left behind is inexcusable.

Since when is there ever any convincing reason for an imac owner to upgrade his desktop anywhere before 3 years minimum? To me, these are pricey hardware that should be able to last 3-5 years. They are probably marketed at platform-agnostic people who have been on a windows desktop for the last few years and might be tempted to upgrade.

I am guessing that due to production bottlenecks, Apple is not yet able to reliably produce 21.5 and 27 inch retina displays that pass QC, are economically viable and have a graphics card powerful enough to power them. So they are opting to reserve the screens for more profitable products like the ios devices and laptops.

I do agree with you that the timing of the announcements seem out of place. The pro, mac mini and imac seem like they should have been announced way back in June, but I am guessing development on them was pushed back for one reason or another.

At any rate, this is just Apple adapting to an ever-changing business landscape. The most stupid thing would be to do "business as usual". I like that they are actually starting to pay attention to their competitors more.
 
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