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Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Deeds500, Dec 17, 2018.

  1. Deeds500 macrumors 6502

    Aug 22, 2014
    I'm not going to get into a discussion about falling iPhone sales, it's all over the tech media and on this site.

    My question is, will Apple finally start listening to its customers and the market in general or is Tim Cook going to keep being the ostrich that he is and keep his head in the sand? The days of small upgrades and exorbitantly priced iPhones are surely over. There is only so much you can milk a cow before it says moo and gallops off. If this is not a wake up call to Tim Cook that the iPhone is not immune to declining interest then I don't know what is. But, if Cook doesn't take stock now, the iPhone's days are numbered.
  2. lyceumHQ macrumors 65816


    Aug 4, 2010
    Head. Sand.

    Until Apple start losing money massively nothing will change.
  3. chabig macrumors 603

    Sep 6, 2002
    Thanks for the heads up.
  4. Jordan921 macrumors 601


    Jul 7, 2010
    Bay Area
    Good thing there’s tons of options right? Upgraded from an X to an Xs Max and I’ll be upgrading again this upcoming year.
  5. jeremysteele macrumors 6502

    Jul 13, 2011
    Nothing lasts forever. Not Apple. Not Microsoft. Not IBM. Not Facebook. Everything that has once existed will end.

    Except for me of course. I intend to live forever.
  6. AppleHaterLover macrumors 68000

    Jun 15, 2018
    You’re “not starting a discussion” on the topic you came here to discuss? That’s courage.

    Well, Apple is a big ship. Takes some time to turn it around. In the meantime, what do you expect them to do? Slash the prices by 20%, immediately, admit to the world you were indeed wrong, let your stock tank even more? While we’re at least 10 months away from the next iPhone release?

    We should call the Apple board right now and tell them we have a new CEO.

    Not all Apple releases are going to be a unanimous success. I’ve criticized Apple’s new iPhones this year, swore to myself I wouldn’t buy anything from them. I’m typing this from my brand new XR. Tim Cook will survive this.
  7. willmtaylor, Dec 17, 2018
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    willmtaylor macrumors G4


    Oct 31, 2009
    Fun fact: ostriches actually don’t bury their heads in the sand/dirt.

    More fun facts: most smartphones are going up in price. Components are increasing in number and cost, so the phones are too.

    I’m not sure you understand how/why cow milking works.

    doomed. DOOMED!!!

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  8. cornerexit macrumors 6502

    Sep 11, 2014
    I can’t wait to see fakebook, instacrap, snapcrap and twatter die horrible deaths. Like a Formula One car going flat out, still accelerating at 180 MPH, when it slams into the side of a mountain.
  9. Absrnd macrumors 6502a


    Apr 15, 2010
    Tim heard you and Apple just started selling these, just for you :)

  10. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

    Oct 17, 2011
    Like when Apple released larger phones, for example?
  11. craigio85 macrumors 6502a


    Jun 27, 2017
    United Kingdom
    Roughly translated - “i’m going to make a vague statement about falling iPhone sales but don’t want any discussion about the bigger picture because it’s more convenient to brand it a symptom of Apple not listening to me and giving me what I want at the price I want to pay.”
  12. Shanghaichica, Dec 18, 2018
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    Shanghaichica macrumors G4


    Apr 8, 2013
    Well they heard us about big screens back in 2014.

    We might say they heard us about wireless and fast charging in 2017 and water resistance in 2016.
  13. Newtons Apple, Dec 18, 2018
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    Newtons Apple macrumors Core

    Newtons Apple

    Mar 12, 2014
    Jacksonville, Florida
    It always amazes me how some people could have such misconceptions and lack of understandings about business.

    Apple is not the only phone maker who is facing a heavily saturated market. Apple is not interested is selling a lot of phones at cut rate prices. It is selling less phones at higher prices.

    It is a better place to be in today’s market.
  14. Relentless Power, Dec 18, 2018
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    Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

    Relentless Power

    Jul 12, 2016
    You seem really concerned about Tim Cook and his leadership role more than iPhone itself. And you openly admitted you’re not going to discuss the “Falling iPhone sales”, yet your whole post is about the “iPhone days are numbered”, kind of contradictory.
  15. maflynn Moderator


    Staff Member

    May 3, 2009
    Seriously, you're saying the failure of the iPhone is imminent? I think that's a stretch.

    In my opinion, Apple sales are dropping, there's no other viable reason why apple suddenly stopped crowing about iPhone sales BUT that doesn't mean apple or the iPhone is doomed.
  16. eyoungren macrumors Core


    Aug 31, 2011
    ten-zero-eleven-zero-zero by zero-two
    Why do you care?

    I mean, if the market buries Apple and the iPhone dies, then an inferior product got buried.

    Why would you object to that?
  17. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

    Relentless Power

    Jul 12, 2016
    Because no matter what, some want to see Apple ‘fail and burn’ to the ground, because Apple changed in a way that they don’t approve of with pricing, products, ect, therefore, others think by posting their own fantasies of how Apple will meet their demise, seemingly believe it will happen. But the reality is, some members believe they have an understanding how to operate a trillion dollar company better than Apple can themself, but that can be the nature of tech forums, they are not Factual representations of what will happen, it’s merely guessing.

    The iPhone won’t just suddenly banish, as the OP is suggesting, however, we as a tech society are reaching a point, where the iPhone/smart phone pricing structure may need to be adjusted accordingly, _if_ the market doesn’t continue to respond to the the inflation with smart phones.
  18. akash.nu macrumors 604


    May 26, 2016
  19. Knowlege Bomb macrumors 603

    Knowlege Bomb

    Feb 14, 2008
    Madison, WI
    Well I just have to say that if the iPhone does die, I'm holding on to the latest working version until it itself dies and Apple will no longer service it because it's still the best phone/OS on the market for me.
  20. Quu macrumors 68030


    Apr 2, 2007
    For Apple to be doomed they would need to sell a lemon iPhone for like 15 years straight. They can change course on prices and features very quickly. This ship is not headed towards ground any time soon.
  21. Raist3001 macrumors 65816


    Mar 5, 2012
    Right behind you
    I totally agree. Apple's vision has never been about selling any product at a cut rate price. However, with rising costs of these phones, it goes without saying that sales will fall flat. Not because apple is doomed, or they are shipping inferior products, but because the market is over saturated and people are holding onto their devices longer. I can see super cycle sales every 3-4 years as the iPhone matures and better features are released compelling folks to upgrade. These 'S' series years and incremental updates are a bit boring at this point.
  22. arkitect macrumors 603


    Sep 5, 2005
    Bath, United Kingdom
    Well, I thought the same thing about my Blackberry in 2008… and then along came Steve Jobs and his game changing iPhone.

    So I would think it a tad premature to make such a comment. By then we probably will be using technology we never dreamt of. :)
  23. Knowlege Bomb macrumors 603

    Knowlege Bomb

    Feb 14, 2008
    Madison, WI
    I disagree. The iPhone has been my choice for the past 11 years. Mobile technology advancement has kind of grinded to a slow meander in the past few years so if the iPhone is in its early stages of death, I don't see anything groundbreaking replacing it in the few years it'll take to croak. Especially this "foldable phone" fad. Sounds absolutely nonsensical to me.
  24. Jimmy James macrumors 601

    Jimmy James

    Oct 26, 2008
    Apple is perceived as the leader of privacy in consumer electronics. I want them to stay. Good thing they now have so much cash on hand they can weather the time it takes to course correct.
  25. The-Real-Deal82 macrumors 604


    Jan 17, 2013
    Wales, United Kingdom
    I think Apple are already listening to a degree. They are plugging the XR like crazy on TV and in store and offering more money for trade ins. My local Apple store even has a wooden billboard outside asking people to come in and check out the XR!! Never seen that before.

    Carriers are now offering 3 year contracts to give consumers the impression the phones are cheaper too. They are starting to react and it’s only going to be more positive in the consumers eyes soon I’d say.

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