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Why does apple insist on making the access point to a battery the front of the device (iphone, ipad, watch) behind a delicate screen instead of the back where it would be SO much easier to get at?
They’ve changed it since iPhone 14. Now iPhone can be disassembled from the front and back.
 
It always surprises me how much mini hate there is. Makes me wonder if these people feel the same about compact cars and one-bedroom apartments.

Apple should suck it up and make Minis and Pluses on alternating years. Drum up an upgrade cycle.
That's not a bad idea, although my preference would be a mini Pro iPhone. I suppose a mini with the same features as the regular 17 would be good enough, but I am a much bigger user of the telephoto lens on my 15 Pro than the ultrawide.
 
That's not a bad idea, although my preference would be a mini Pro iPhone. I suppose a mini with the same features as the regular 17 would be good enough, but I am a much bigger user of the telephoto lens on my 15 Pro than the ultrawide.

This is where I disagree with most people. I, personally, think there should be no such thing as a Pro iPhone. All iPhones should have that feature set and capability - merely in different sizes. Yes, the phones would have a higher starting price, but Apple already keeps the previous year's models in the line as a more entry-level option anyways.
 
This is where I disagree with most people. I, personally, think there should be no such thing as a Pro iPhone. All iPhones should have that feature set and capability - merely in different sizes. Yes, the phones would have a higher starting price, but Apple already keeps the previous year's models in the line as a more entry-level option anyways.
Then we disagree only in semantics! I am with you, I miss the days of the singular iPhone. I was already annoyed with Apple when they locked dual cameras behind the phablet form factor with the 7 Plus. Call it Pro or don't, whatever, but they should have the exact same features available with multiple screen sizes.
 
The sales were terrible for mini. I would never buy one, though I wouldn't have anything against it existing for the people that would, but sales data showed that it wouldn't be viable. The R&D plus cost of the phone far outweigh the income potential. It is what it is, unfortunate for those who like a smaller phone.
I think the mini was competing against the SE, that was also small and even cheaper.

I think the natural thing to do would be to make the SE option smaller again. The 16e just doesn't make much sense in the lineup. Apple released 5 iphones this year:

16e: 6.1" screen, $599
17: 6.3" screen, $799
Air: 6.5" screen, $999
17 pro: 6.3" screen, $1099
17 pro max: 6.9" screen, $1199

There just isn't much diversity there for screen size. I think a "17e" (or 18e?) with a screen less than 6" would make a lot of sense. Many have pointed to the iphone x. That would be perfect (5.8"). They could probably keep that body and many of the components, just upgrade specs and components, maybe charge less than $600 and it would sell well.
 
The rumor of the Fold is a 5.4” outer screen.
Im pretty sure the outside screen is rumoured to be 5.8” which still is not too bad. Closed will be about the thickness of 2 iphone airs.

Edit - sorry 5.5” display on the outside
 
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I think the mini was competing against the SE, that was also small and even cheaper.

I think the natural thing to do would be to make the SE option smaller again. The 16e just doesn't make much sense in the lineup. Apple released 5 iphones this year:

16e: 6.1" screen, $599
17: 6.3" screen, $799
Air: 6.5" screen, $999
17 pro: 6.3" screen, $1099
17 pro max: 6.9" screen, $1199
That makes a lot more sense than what the currently have for sure
There just isn't much diversity there for screen size. I think a "17e" (or 18e?) with a screen less than 6" would make a lot of sense. Many have pointed to the iphone x. That would be perfect (5.8"). They could probably keep that body and many of the components, just upgrade specs and components, maybe charge less than $600 and it would sell well.
 
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To the people saying the iPhone 17 isn't that heavy: I get it, but it's the pure dimensions that are a problem for me. I can't have a brick in my pocket. I'm not even wearing anything tight. I'm a man and I'm wearing normal regular fit sized clothes and I like to have my phone in my pocket. But do you know how retarded it looks to have a brick in your pocket? And it's extremely uncomfortable on top of that, especially when sitting down. Unless you have even bigger pockets. But then you have the risk if your phone falling out.

I'd 100% buy an iPhone 17 Pro Mini. I want the best camera and all the other features, but in mini format.
 
To the people saying the iPhone 17 isn't that heavy: I get it, but it's the pure dimensions that are a problem for me. I can't have a brick in my pocket. I'm not even wearing anything tight. I'm a man and I'm wearing normal regular fit sized clothes and I like to have my phone in my pocket. But do you know how retarded it looks to have a brick in your pocket? And it's extremely uncomfortable on top of that, especially when sitting down. Unless you have even bigger pockets. But then you have the risk if your phone falling out.

I'd 100% buy an iPhone 17 Pro Mini. I want the best camera and all the other features, but in mini format.

Most guys seem to pull it off just fine with the phone in their front pocket.

Maybe time to invest in some new pants?

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I recently went from a 13 mini to a 17, had it about 2 weeks now. It still feels much bigger in my pocket, that difference doesn't seem to be going away. But in my hand, I think I now prefer the size of the 17, my accuracy in typing has certainly improved.

I upgraded because as you say the 13 mini was starting to feel old / obsolete, and there's no new Apple phone in that size on the horizon it seems. If they release another mini in future, I will certainly check it out.
How do you feel now about the upgrade? How are you find the battery life? I don’t know whether to replace the battery and wait for the base iPhone 18 or finally leave my 13 mini behind. It’s such a perfect iPhone for me.
 
I have the 15 Pro Max and just got the new iPhone Air. The Air is so much lighter and just a tad smaller than the 15PM. I love that the Air is so light and thin and does everything I need an iPhone to do but have been wanting something much smaller and starting to look into the 13 Mini, thanks to YouTube reviews. I know there have been a lot of people talking about just how well made the 13 Mini was and that in some people's opinion is the "unicorn" of iPhones so this peaked my interest into looking more at the 13 Mini.

I have gone backwards in that yesterday I pulled the trigger and purchased an Amazon Prime Renewed 13 Mini, in my case a Green 512GB 13 Mini in excellent condition. I'm hoping the battery health will be solid and that the overall condition of the iPhone will be good as new. I will find out this Friday when I take delivery of this new to me iPhone.

I purchased this iPhone to be my secondary iPhone replacing my 15PM as I have decided lighter and perhaps smaller is the route I want to go as I continue to age. I have not been utilizing all the pro features that are available in my 15PM so to me it made perfect sense to get the 13 Mini for it's wide angle lens to compliment the iPhone Air I am using as my primary phone. If the battery will need replacement then I will schedule with Apple to have them replace the battery and go on with my new iPhone and discover what all other 13 Mini owners have been enjoying. I am looking forward to this.
 
You answered your own question - get a new battery for your perfect phone.

This is very much the way.
Best to search for an original leather Apple mini case while you're at it.

I've recently replaced both the battery and leather case for many more happy iphone mini use... and ios26 is fine on it (with the Liquid Glass/Vista Aero ****e disabled as much as possible)

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It's a lot smarter than my old mini phone

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Most guys seem to pull it off just fine with the phone in their front pocket.

Maybe time to invest in some new pants?

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Try sitting down with it stuffed down your pants!

Also not many mens trousers have massive pockets. Mine certainly don't. Notice the pics you shared seem to be the same pair of trousers specifically made for a massive iPhone. iPantsPro - only comes in 'magical' beige.

I love my Mini and have held onto it far longer than I have all my other iPhones purely because all the ones on offer now are massive.
 
This is very much the way.
Best to search for an original leather Apple mini case while you're at it.

I've recently replaced both the battery and leather case for many more happy iphone mini use... and ios26 is fine on it (with the Liquid Glass/Vista Aero ****e disabled as much as possible)

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The strongest case against keeping one’s aging 13 Mini is that it doesn’t have the newest technology.

The strongest case for keeping one’s old friend is that there’s no substitute in small size and low mass.

With eyes wide open, I sacrifice new tech for the never-to-be-repeated form factor.
 
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