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'We will be able to live to 1,000'
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The sad thing with this is that a lot of these technologies could be in use sooner. Take a quick look at who would stand to lose if this happened. Who makes insulin for diabetics? Arthritis drugs? Blood pressure, cholesterol, viagra, Botox... etc. Drug companies make a lot of money off of aging, not to mention other diseases, and they will fight tooth and nail to protect their cash cow.
A lot of potential research dollars are steered away from ideas like this for other drugs, that "treat" diseases, rather than "cure" diseases.
The sad fact of a capitalist society is that there is no money in curing people.
A lot of potential research dollars are steered away from ideas like this for other drugs, that "treat" diseases, rather than "cure" diseases.
The sad fact of a capitalist society is that there is no money in curing people.
Will we ever be able to live to 1000?
No. Assuming that to do so would slow each stage of our lives that would mean that a generation wouldn't die for another 9 or so generations and may well just keep producing more offspring who'd do likewise and so on. Eventually the sheer numbers of people would make the planet so heavy it would fall out of it's current orbit and slowly spiral ever closer to the sun. Imagine standing shoulder to shoulder with 100 billion other pensioners in 120 degree heat. Not a great retirement.
No. Assuming that to do so would slow each stage of our lives that would mean that a generation wouldn't die for another 9 or so generations and may well just keep producing more offspring who'd do likewise and so on. Eventually the sheer numbers of people would make the planet so heavy it would fall out of it's current orbit and slowly spiral ever closer to the sun. Imagine standing shoulder to shoulder with 100 billion other pensioners in 120 degree heat. Not a great retirement.
It would be cool to say in 950 years:
I use mac since 1984, hey guys, do you remember the ad in the superbowl??
I use mac since 1984, hey guys, do you remember the ad in the superbowl??
Mabey I am just to religious, but I do not think that God will ever let that happen. Remember, man used to live to be a thousand in the time when God created man. I believe Adam died at 932 years old or something around that. Then the time of man's life was reduced to 120 years.
I definatly think God created us with the ability to engineer ourselves to live longer. We were made in his likeness.
The last time man did something on this scale, it was called the Tower of Babal. And God changes the languages they spoke so that none could understand one another. We have since then overcome that day with the creation of instant translators and the net. I am curious to see how far God will let us go again.
Plus, leaving on earth is hell as it is. I would rather do my 70 as God promised and get done with it.
edit: plus with great wisdom, like leaving 1000 years, demands great responsobility. People would not be resposibly enough to not overpopulate the earth as many have already mentioned. But space travel could fix that problem. I might be willing to leave a 1000 year if I can start my race of people on mars. A true Martian, that would rule.
I definatly think God created us with the ability to engineer ourselves to live longer. We were made in his likeness.
The last time man did something on this scale, it was called the Tower of Babal. And God changes the languages they spoke so that none could understand one another. We have since then overcome that day with the creation of instant translators and the net. I am curious to see how far God will let us go again.
Plus, leaving on earth is hell as it is. I would rather do my 70 as God promised and get done with it.
edit: plus with great wisdom, like leaving 1000 years, demands great responsobility. People would not be resposibly enough to not overpopulate the earth as many have already mentioned. But space travel could fix that problem. I might be willing to leave a 1000 year if I can start my race of people on mars. A true Martian, that would rule.
jayscheuerle
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mpw said:
Funny. Of course the mass of the planet won't change due to population increase, but what will happen is that some things will have to suffer/disappear/make way for us to expand. Our resources are finite and in a more precarious state than we're capable of understanding now. The balance that achieved will either be pretty or ugly and our track record should have us expecting a lot of ugly. Ugly will last long enough for pretty to be forgotten and we'll settle on "not so ugly" and consider it better than before.
This may very well be a good time to be alive. We don't know what the world will be like in 1000 years (or even 100), but we may not EVEN THEN have the flying cars that Popular Science has been predicting for the past 70 years!
jayscheuerle
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Metatron said:
Sorry. You can't bring religion into logical discussions. That should be a rule.
I noticed we share a birthday (20th). Have a happy one! - j
jayscheuerle said:
First off, happy birthday on the 20th to you, and Second, the only logical dicsussion that exsist is the one that is founded on the truth, that being God. The framework of Logic is that it has rules and values that never change. And only God never changes.
I hate that this sound like a religious rant....sorry all.
I think that even if limited resources were not a problem and there was no danger of overpopulation I think that people would begin to die of literal boredom. Think about it: Part of what makes life vibrant is the new experiences one has in their interactions with others, their environment, and their own self-discovery. Would we be enriched if we lived an extra 50 years? Absolutely. The thrill of life would still be evident. But after 950 years? What will you do on your 823rd birthday that you hadn't already done? Life would become unbearable at a certain point because of ennui. Be careful of what you wish for. you may get it.
"Second, the only logical dicsussion that exsist is the one that is founded on the truth, that being God. The framework of Logic is that it has rules and values that never change. And only God never changes."
Just curious but whose God are you referring to and what set of bellefs are you attibuting to him? The Christian God? Or Allah? Or Buddah? Part of faith is that there it is NOT grounded in logic. Faith' definition is that you can't empically experience 'it' you just believe 'it' to be true. ("Faith is the subtance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Hebrews 11:1)
Plus if you are referring to the Christian God then reading his book (which he didn't write: that task was left up to others after the fact) you will find all sorts of inconsistences in his word. And finally my personal favorite: God telling the Israelites to kill every man, woman, and child in order to take the land. Any god that resorts to killing children in order to make room for own his people has 'issues' and doesn't seem worthy of worship..
I sweat this conversation comes up every month or so.
"Second, the only logical dicsussion that exsist is the one that is founded on the truth, that being God. The framework of Logic is that it has rules and values that never change. And only God never changes."
Just curious but whose God are you referring to and what set of bellefs are you attibuting to him? The Christian God? Or Allah? Or Buddah? Part of faith is that there it is NOT grounded in logic. Faith' definition is that you can't empically experience 'it' you just believe 'it' to be true. ("Faith is the subtance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Hebrews 11:1)
Plus if you are referring to the Christian God then reading his book (which he didn't write: that task was left up to others after the fact) you will find all sorts of inconsistences in his word. And finally my personal favorite: God telling the Israelites to kill every man, woman, and child in order to take the land. Any god that resorts to killing children in order to make room for own his people has 'issues' and doesn't seem worthy of worship..
I sweat this conversation comes up every month or so.