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I don't understand why people can't understand the "watch" description is just a metaphor same a music album is no longer a vinyl disc that spins around at 78 RPM. Providing the current time is not the main function of a smartwatch.

I absolutely DO understand that the term "watch", in the way that we currently know and use watches, is not a direct and complete description of what these new devices will offer.

However, my point is that a anything wearable has to have a component of style. In addition to being time pieces, watches are jewelry and fashion, at least to me.

I do suspect that if the technology brings value we will see options that have leather and stainless bands, come in gold and silver, offer unique and attractive faces, etc.

So far, every mockup I've seen is closer to a Casio than a Tag (other than that Citizen posted above).
 
I thought the trend was overhype, until I got a Pebble for xmas. I must say that it is amazing. Very good battery life (~1 week), always on display, and any iOS notification integrates seamlessly. Between the immediate feedback when my phone is buzzing and the control over functions like music playback, it has drastically reduced the number of times I need to fish my phone out of my pocket.
It also has many handy features like being able to play a chime from my phone when I misplace it, or notifying me if I accidentally leave my phone behind at a restaurant.
Sure it would be nice to see it slimmed down and built with high grade components, but functionally Pebble is the right idea. It runs a very lightweight OS to limit battery usage and relies on your phone for any heavy lifting.
A smartwatch is not standalone device, it is a companion to your phone, and they do improve a modern lifestyle through separating your phone from your hand while not separating you from your information.
 
Some somebody is going to teach my dog to communicate? 'Bout time! Maybe the stupid bastard will learn to say he has to take a crap instead of looking at the door wondering why it doesn't open.
 
This all sounds like just more garbage for the landfill and lots of answers to questions no one asked.

Answers to problems no one knew they had. Just let the industry do its thing, no need to get upset.
 
I think wearable devices are much closer to mass market than you think, for example, Health Bands are getting quite popular. I'd class these as wearable devices.

Smart watches will take off very soon, and yes, they still are immature products. Smart glasses, in bit further in the future than smart watches.

yes, but you can't compare viability of health bands versus that of a fully functional wearable iPhone (or any smartphone or PDA). a health band only needs to have an accelerometer, low powered processor, small amount of storage and bluetooth chip. wearable pedometers have been around for a long time and it would seem that the only recent technological advance was integrating bluetooth and redesigning them to look more "futuristic" than the simple Casio style watch they used to be. With the type of wearables we are talking about now, you'd have to add in a much more powerful processor, more ram, considerably larger storage capacities, wifi card, a touchscreen that is big enough for people of all ages to read yet small enough to maintain a typical watch form factor, graphics card (more than likely included in whatever SOC they use), a battery capable of holding charge for no less than 12 functional hours, and possibly the most limiting in terms of form factor: some sort of I/O for charging and syncing. and even when we manage to squeeze all of this into a device that provides enough benefits to make its cost worthy of sales figures anywhere near that of iPhones and iPads, we are still left with a UI that is inherently difficult using only touch navigation. an adult finger is not exactly the most precise input device for such a small screen.
 
I like many of the features that smart watches offer. The only thing holding me back from buying one is that they are all incredibly ugly. Apple is smart for taking their time because all they have to do is produce a smart watch that looks nice and does everything all the other ones do, and people will flock to it...even the people who bought all the other smart watches.

With that being said, I will be incredibly disappointed if the iWatch is just as ugly as all the other smart watches.
 
your last statement is absolutely correct, and that won't be changing any time soon. until a smart watch can be made to fit in a space no larger than a current analog watch, it will be a rushed product. and until smart glasses take up the size and weight of no more than a set of eyeglasses, it will be a rushed product as well. and both devices will STILL have to prove that they offer functionality that rivals that of the capabilities of the smartphones we are all used to by now.
Absolutely, and btw I have a collection of watches, it would take a lot for any new watch to make me switch, so you are spot on

Thinking about it, Thats one of the things that was wrong with samsung gear; too expensive for the casual watch wearer ($50 range), and those who want to spend a $300 would consider a Movado or Tissot
 
I have that watch. It died after 5 years. It'll cost $500-$1000 to send it to Switzerland to be repaired, so I no longer wear it.
That's too bad.

At least in my area (Silicon Valley) there are some old-school watch repair shops that'll work on mechanical movements. I understand that the repair costs are thwarting you from getting it repaired. I shelled out about three hundred bucks to get my Omega up and running (including a new hesalite crystal). It's a 50+ year old automatic model (from a family member), but it runs great.

I suggest you look for a local repairman.

I will point out that the Speedmaster was the first wristwatch to be certified by NASA for EVA (Extra-Vehicular Activity); not sure if any other watch has been certified since then (if there are, probably just a few). I do know that loaner Speedmasters are still issued to astronauts for space flight.
 
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A wearable device don't have to be as powerful as an iPhone, or Android phone to be classed as a "wearable device". They can be a lot simpler and still be classed as a "wearable device". I certainly wasn't comparing a health band to a fully functional wearable iPhones. Smart glasses aren't quite here yet, battery life is a bit factor. As for "smart lenses"... a lot further in the future. However, lets get back to the here and now.

I'd certainly qualify Health Bands such as Nike, Fitbit as a "wearable device"- especially those that can sync to your phone via bluetooth - now, those devices haven't been around for a long time.

"With the type of wearables we are talking about now, "

What sort of "wearables" are "we" talking about, because I don't think I'm talking about the devices you are ( except Smart Lenses / Glasses ). Some Smart Watches today can have a battery life of 7 days, which is pretty good considering and still offer good functionality.


yes, but you can't compare viability of health bands versus that of a fully functional wearable iPhone (or any smartphone or PDA). a health band only needs to have an accelerometer, low powered processor, small amount of storage and bluetooth chip. wearable pedometers have been around for a long time and it would seem that the only recent technological advance was integrating bluetooth and redesigning them to look more "futuristic" than the simple Casio style watch they used to be. With the type of wearables we are talking about now, you'd have to add in a much more powerful processor, more ram, considerably larger storage capacities, wifi card, a touchscreen that is big enough for people of all ages to read yet small enough to maintain a typical watch form factor, graphics card (more than likely included in whatever SOC they use), a battery capable of holding charge for no less than 12 functional hours, and possibly the most limiting in terms of form factor: some sort of I/O for charging and syncing. and even when we manage to squeeze all of this into a device that provides enough benefits to make its cost worthy of sales figures anywhere near that of iPhones and iPads, we are still left with a UI that is inherently difficult using only touch navigation. an adult finger is not exactly the most precise input device for such a small screen.
 
Digital Jewelry

I'm a bit surprised no company has gone back and revisited the old IBM wearable jewelry phone ideas from 2000, like:

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Although hmm... they seem more like something a spy would wear :)

But that makes sense, too. This stuff should become part of the background. Less obviously intrusive.
 
Answers to problems no one knew they had. Just let the industry do its thing, no need to get upset.

First of all, I'm not upset. Second of all, you're right, I didn't know that I had a problem that could be solved with a bio-sensor for my ****ing dog. Ok, now I'm a little upset. :)
 
iWatch with slideout display doubler!

I want a smartwatch with a slideout display that doubles the width of the normal screen when notifications are open. This way fonts can be enlarged for easier viewing as both screens sideby side (ie 1.5+1.5 inches) allowing sentences to be read more naturally and slowly scrolls up. Stop when message ends, restart display and scrolling a second time then auto-dismiss.
The watch needs to "know" when you look at it and timeouts when it is no longer in viewing position. No pressing, just raise watch or twist wrist to view.
Smartwatches are fat as they are since more of the thickness is taken by a battery, so battery should be moved to the side strap. Overall thickness should be carefully crafted to allow balance of the watch being worn. You do not want the screen self rolling to one side but weighted well on the viewing position. Our strap is not normally tight as it would be uncomfortable, so careful design with silicon coated base should allow normal resting of the watch on your wrist. Weight balance is going to be challenging if the watch gets any bigger or too small (for ladies).
 
Why is it that so many smart watches bear a striking resemblance to the old iPod nano plugged on a wristband from like three years ago? Did nobody figure out how to make the device thinner, somehow designed differently or change the UI?
 
However, my point is that a anything wearable has to have a component of style. In addition to being time pieces, watches are jewelry and fashion, at least to me.

So far, every mockup I've seen is closer to a Casio than a Tag (other than that Citizen posted above).

1) You have an odd, narrow definition of a watch. Based on your comment, a watch must a) be jewelry and b) be fashionable. That excludes a lot of product currently and previously sold as a "watch," even though it keeps time, and maybe day and date, and has a chronograph. Your definition also requires renaming vintage models once chic but fell out of fashion. I would not consider a Casio or Nike sport watch to be fashionable or jewelry, but it is a watch but most people's and dictionary's definition.

2) Yes, a smartwatch needs to have some style along with functionality for it to be widely adopted. No one wants an ugly plastic slab on their wrist which is partly why Samsungs watch is a flop. But I think it's a bit much to demand it look like an expensive luxury watch (see watches come in categories) or it isn't relevant. Apple or some other company will blend style with function just as Tesla did with electric cars; just as Apple did with MP3 players.
 
I love how you know this when;

What I said in my post was largely clearly expressed as opinion. I apologize for sounding too much like I what I said was truth when I said "They don't do anything particularly well."

You didn't do anything to make me think otherwise of the products released so far. I agree that there are some potential applications for smart watches (I even said the Pebble looks useful,) but the price exceeds the value, for me, right now. If you somehow got Apple maps running on a watch, I could see it as being immensely useful for walking, transit, and bike directions.
 
Man, that VOYCE ad wants to be Apple's "Every Day" ads so bad it hurts. And a bad one at that...
 
Wearable Technology at CES 2014: Smart Watches, Activity Trackers, Glasses, a...

Until they look like this, count me out.

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I LOVE watches, and to me they are as much about the underlying mechanical engineering as about the beauty and telling time.


I wore the Pebble for awhile - it really does change the way you use your phone, and makes getting messages during meetings much less disruptive. For a less nerdy look, there's the Martian:

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Although I'll be trying out the Hot Watch. Like the Martian, you can make/receive calls on the watch itself, but the Hot Watch allows private calls by putting your hand to your ear.
 
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Why is it that so many smart watches bear a striking resemblance to the old iPod nano plugged on a wristband from like three years ago? Did nobody figure out how to make the device thinner, somehow designed differently or change the UI?

Good question. Perhaps the technology isn't quite here yet at a price point that many people would pay. Perhaps the device's mission hasn't been defined well enough, either.

As for design, well, you could mimic big old square watches:

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Slight curves are a popular design idea these days:

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Or you could go super futuristic with an unusual shape:

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Nokia has a concept where it's a set of little screens linked together in a bracelet, and you can either twist your wrist to see the display of interest, or swipe to shift them all up a screen at a time.

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1) You have an odd, narrow definition of a watch. Based on your comment, a watch must a) be jewelry and b) be fashionable. That excludes a lot of product currently and previously sold as a "watch," even though it keeps time, and maybe day and date, and has a chronograph. Your definition also requires renaming vintage models once chic but fell out of fashion. I would not consider a Casio or Nike sport watch to be fashionable or jewelry, but it is a watch but most people's and dictionary's definition.

2) Yes, a smartwatch needs to have some style along with functionality for it to be widely adopted. No one wants an ugly plastic slab on their wrist which is partly why Samsungs watch is a flop. But I think it's a bit much to demand it look like an expensive luxury watch (see watches come in categories) or it isn't relevant. Apple or some other company will blend style with function just as Tesla did with electric cars; just as Apple did with MP3 players.

I just think we are on different pages here. Forget that it is a watch, a smart watch, a toaster...whatever. I am not trying to define anything.

I will simply state that I personally would never wear any of the designs I've seen so far...regardless of capability...I just don't like the look of what I've seen to this point.
 
I only have a one word to describe all this "wearable crap"

Miniature..

Isn't it nice ? :p.. Now, in this day and age, its much more "convenient" to look at a mere few inch screen watching like an episode of Macgyver, where everyone would walking round not looking at a normal 6 inch phone or even 3.5 inch, but we can now look at or wrist...

How is this much better ?? Apart from being lazy, as in keeping the phone in pocket... which, by the way you must still take it out to call someone.

Plus, all this could be just a huge "marketing" .... "Hey, I don't have a watch, but wouldn't you want one now ?"

No thanks ... I have a smart phone :) which does allot more.
 
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