Web Builder/Editor

Discussion in 'iPad' started by Renator41, Apr 24, 2017.

  1. Renator41 macrumors newbie

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    I'm making a transition from a MacBook Pro to the new iPad Pro 12.9. In doing so, I am looking for a webpage builder/editor specifically for the iPad. I already have two sites created and being hosted with my own domain names. This is my concern: The editing apps I've seen for the iPad seem to assume that you will use their site for web hosting. I'm not interested in that. I simply want to have a webpage app that I can import my existing websites, change or edit them and save them back to my hosting site. Does this kind of app exist? When I created these sites, a number of years ago, I used iWeb but I understand that is no longer supported by Apple but I don't know if there is any equivalent for the iPad. Need help. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
     
  2. adamfozzy macrumors newbie

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    Could try HTML egg app but it is limited. I find the web builder services like weebly have very poor apps. I am thinking of making the same transition but the web editing is the only real task that is difficult on an iPad. Looked at Jump desktop, citrix mouse and mac mini as remote desktop option but may just get new MacBook when it arrives soon.
     
  3. macduke Suspended

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    Coda all the way: https://panic.com/coda-ios/

    I use the desktop version way more, but the iOS version is rather full featured and has saved me a number of times. It's rather robust in what it can connect to and has full syntax highlighting among many other features.
     
  4. Mathias Denichi macrumors 6502

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    Coda is the only hing that really handles the coding and ftp well. However, if you are working with anything using MySQL or dynamically updated elements, there's no version of firebug or inspect element to pick generated divs etc out. This is one of the issues keeping me form completely switching to an iPad Pro.
     
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  6. macduke Suspended

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    There's an app called Ergo Web Tools that has an inspector. I haven't used it, but the reviews are half-decent. I couldn't imagine doing all of my web development on the iPad, but I think the iPad is good for fixing problems on the web and other short tasks. They really do need to expand the inspector functionality. It should be built-in. I mean, it's implemented somewhat in code because you can inspect things on an iPad while connected to a Mac using Safari. It would be nice to pop it into a sidebar. It would be especially useful on the iPad Pro 12.9" and maybe the rumored 10.5" model that has the same resolution because it could show the smaller 1024 viewport with the inspector toolbars around it.
     
  7. adamfozzy macrumors newbie

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    Agreed. I have been down the road of trying to make an iPad a mac but whats the point? I have rested on a Mac and iPhone (best of both worlds). We use iPad in our school (great device to teach with) but from a personal use I don't think I need one. I keep reading articles about apple focusing on iOS instead of MacOS but MacOS is established.
     
  8. Mathias Denichi macrumors 6502

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    I have, its not supported and is kind of trash. There is another with a little known developer, but it is in very early stages. It will probably take Apple including it in the next version of iOS Safari to be any good, if they want Web Developers to use the iPad Pro.
     
  9. macduke Suspended

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    Yeah, I definitely think they will since they seem to be headed in that direction with things like Xcode. It will make anything else irrelevant. I'd love to work on the design of something like that with an app developer, but there wouldn't be much money to be made. It would definitely be a labor of love and necessity. It's too bad a developer can't create a tool like that and get away with charging $30 on the App Store since the pricing is so horrible with professional tools for sale alongside iMessage sticker packs and Flappy Candy Farming games.

    I mean, even Coda is talking about stopping development on things like Coda for iOS because they just can't make money. Meanwhile Apple is trying to get everyone to use the iPad to create stuff while letting the Mac stagnate without addressing the pricing problem on iOS. It also doesn't help that they only charge $25 for the darn app even though the Mac version costs $99. Although, knowing the App Store, that problem hurts them to have such a "high" price. I wish Apple would create a premium, curated section of the App Store for professional software that has high visibility and a minimum price point of like $30. That way you know you're getting decent software that has been vetted by a team of various creatives within Apple that tests things out. Maybe it could be an invite-only sort of thing, kind of like "Editor's Choice" but for a professional section. Either way they need to figure something out soon or the iPad Pro is going to struggle.

    I'd love to use my iPad to do more creative stuff and development, but it's just not feasible. It would be great to kick back in a hammock and work on something beyond Lightroom or drawing, like a project building a website which involves editing a lot of images, vectors, and various files with preprocessors that need to all be published.
     
  10. Mathias Denichi macrumors 6502

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    I agree. It's a catch 22 for sure. If they introduce a trial system for apps, and raise the maximum app size, specifically for the iPad Pro line, I think Apple will be heading in the right direction to get coders and web developers to use the iPad Pro as their main mobile device.
     
  11. macduke Suspended

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    I can't help but think they're going to have to massively redesign iOS for the iPad. Maybe even make an iPad OS that strikes off in a different direction than the iPhone. It's going to have to be orders of magnitude better before we can do our entire workload on them, and even so, I'm not so sure they can do better than things like the mouse and Finder any time soon. And that's why they need a fundamental change. Not macOS, not iOS, maybe just a new way forward that rethinks how it all should work on a tablet.
     
  12. Osty macrumors 6502a

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    Different approach to consider.

    I use a static-site generator that scrapes markdown content to create and publish the site. The content lives in Dropbox, meaning I can edit it on my iPad; the static-site generator lives on my VPS and I've automated the build process with a cronjob.

    Works really well for content heavy sites like blogs and it nicely separates content from presentation, which I think is a worthy exercise.

    If I need to change or tweak the theme or my build settings, I do so over SSH using Terminus.
     
  13. masotime macrumors 68000

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    The iPad is really bad for most web development. I've looked at the options - none are sufficiently adequate for anything beyond simple static web pages. If you have any build process at all for your website, access to any laptop (windows or Mac) is going to make you immensely more productive.

    You could theoretically use SSH and / or maybe use some VNC application as a bypass to having full physical access to a full computing environment... I would assume you'd need immense familiarity and speed with shell editors like vim / screen though... not really my thing, but if you manage to work comfortable with that and an iPad, then I suppose it is viable. However, that is more hoops that I would want to jump through - I'll just buy a MacBook and call it a day.
     
  14. StrDev macrumors newbie

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    Nowadays I am maintaining only a few websites (have stopped web development years ago), but I never liked small monitors incl. anything smaller than 21" for web development. For serious work, a desktop mac with 21"-27" monitor is the way to go.

    On my iPad, I have Textastic (new version is out!) and (Panic) Coda. These are the two best code editors on the iPad. Also tried Kodiak, JS Anywhere and further editors but Textastic and Coda are the best so far. I hope they do not discontinue the development.
     
  15. sdz macrumors 6502

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    I use Textastic. Its worth the price.
     
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