Are there any good web page development software on mac other than adobe golive (i donot want to spend 370 on adobe suite which i cannot use on both mac and PC!). My requirement is semi-professional with basic graphics.
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As a person who self tought himself all he knows - dreamweaver is good - but recently I switched to Adobe Go Live (both really great if you or a friend can use your 'student discount'
Adobe is a notch more advanced and in my opinion more powerful than dreamweaver - but both are great if you just want to learn how to do it. And as best I can tell both are really powerful to go well beyone the novice stage
Have fun.
Irie
As a person who self tought himself all he knows - dreamweaver is good - but recently I switched to Adobe Go Live (both really great if you or a friend can use your 'student discount'
Adobe is a notch more advanced and in my opinion more powerful than dreamweaver - but both are great if you just want to learn how to do it. And as best I can tell both are really powerful to go well beyone the novice stage
Have fun.
Irie
anotherjeff said:
go with dreamweaver... the code produced by DW is much higher quality code than GL. I started off on GL since it was OSX native first. I quickly moved to DW and haven't looked back yet.
Adobe's interface is horrible compared to DW once you get past the basic level.
Take this from a 6th year Graphic/Web design student. I've used these programs long enough
There is a lower cost web development tool called Freeway (Express and Pro editions) linky here
Adobe's interface is horrible compared to DW once you get past the basic level.
Take this from a 6th year Graphic/Web design student. I've used these programs long enough
There is a lower cost web development tool called Freeway (Express and Pro editions) linky here
mox358 said:go with dreamweaver... the code produced by DW is much higher quality code than GL. I started off on GL since it was OSX native first. I quickly moved to DW and haven't looked back yet.
Adobe's interface is horrible compared to DW once you get past the basic level.
Take this from a 6th year Graphic/Web design student. I've used these programs long enough
There is a lower cost web development tool called Freeway (Express and Pro editions) linky here
thanks a lot! I guess i will go the dreamweaver way. And looks like i can use the same licience on mac and windows too!
Be sure to check out the Web Design and Development forum too.
You'll find there quite a few essential Web dev tools both commercial and free.
You'll find there quite a few essential Web dev tools both commercial and free.
I had been looking around at editors for a while, and after trying out demos of most apps, I went with HyperEdit.
It's very cheap, but is a great editor. The reason I went with it is the live updating of the page on the right-hand panel as you edit the code. It will also check any linked css/java when doing this, and makes fine-tuning a page much quicker.
http://www.tumultco.com/HyperEdit/
That said, if you want WYSIWYG then it's no use.
It's very cheap, but is a great editor. The reason I went with it is the live updating of the page on the right-hand panel as you edit the code. It will also check any linked css/java when doing this, and makes fine-tuning a page much quicker.
http://www.tumultco.com/HyperEdit/
That said, if you want WYSIWYG then it's no use.
yes definalty go with Dreamweaver! I HATE Go Live. I had a co-worker who used Go Live on her powerbook and after she left I spent 2 weeks going back and fixing up her sites because of the mess of code.
Text Edit. Take the time to learn HTML, CSS, and if you want to do dynamic pages, PHP. It will pay off in the end, because you will have cleaner, faster code, which makes for easier page updates.
I have Dreamweaver, but I find that I don't even use the WYSIWYG features anymore. All I do is edit stylesheets, which are just text, and then edit the HTML or PHP documents in code view, so I might as well be using a standard text editor.
You will learn a lot more, and become a better coder/designer if you stray away from WSIWYG.
scem0
I have Dreamweaver, but I find that I don't even use the WYSIWYG features anymore. All I do is edit stylesheets, which are just text, and then edit the HTML or PHP documents in code view, so I might as well be using a standard text editor.
You will learn a lot more, and become a better coder/designer if you stray away from WSIWYG.
scem0
I have to agree with this, back in the days I used Claris Homepage (or whatever it was called, but soon got tired of WYSIWYG editors that always messed up the code, so I changed to some sort of simple text editor. (It was H*LL on earth through the "Browser Wars" in the late 90's when you had to JavaScript anything to work on both Netscape and IE, but I survivedscem0 said:
).Now I always try to follow the standards: XHTML and CSS2, using my new favorite text editor from BareBones: TextWrangler, now freeware (for non commersial use, at least). Earlier I've used BBEdit (eval), BBEdit Lite and SubEthaEdit, and TextWrangler is (almost) as good as the $199 BBEdit, for most things...
I'm a pro web developer/designer - DW has always been part of my HTML editing kitt next to BBEdit. I did try the Adobe one once for a very short time. But I'm very disapionted in the new version of DW MX it has no more CSS editing power than the last version. I tend to think (hope) that Macrmedia is working an dedicated CSS editor that it will sell seperatly.
Mitthrawnuruodo said:
That's a pleasant surprise. I had no idea that Bare Bones made TW2 free. I've enjoyed using BBEdit Lite for years now. BBEdit is very nice (especially for HTML stuff), but it's too expensive for a hobby Web designer like myself.
I learned HTML with MS WordPad; It doesn't get much simpler than that. On my Mac, I use BBEdit Lite. I have a lot of pride in hand-coding my pages, even though I could use WYSIWYG editors. I've tried the demos of Macromedia's and Adobe's stuff, but I always end up going back to the simpler text editors. For me, hand-coding is the way to go.
Yep. That's all I use. It appears to have the same functionality as HyperText, but is totally and completely free.Chaszmyr said:
Go get it... Now!
scem0 said:
eh I use DW extensivly. But I always work in split view(code/design) because ya gotta keep an eye on what DW is doing as far as code. So although I do use the WSIWYG I can code by hand so I know what to watch out for.
As a professional Graphic and Web Designer with years of experience, I say BBedit. Maybe its because my influence has been from programmers, but I dislike WYSIWYG editors, I dislike DW. I do all my coding by hand it in my opinion its best that way. I fully understand that a new web designer is not going to go this route though.