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Isn't this illegal? I mean they probably need to hack into Apple's database to add the IMEIs in question, which is pretty illegal.

yeah, just what I was thinking. The whole 'accessing Apple's database' seems pretty illegal to me. I don't see how they can get away with that no matter how you look at it.
 
There are those of us with passports who travel intentionally.

As opposed to travelling accidentally? :D

Seriously though, you have my sympathies; roaming rates are horrendous. We often complain about "high prices" here in NZ but we really don't understand how lucky we are; unlocked phones, no falling back to 2G, don't pay for incoming calls...
 
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illbeback said:
Tired of Apple's locked ecosystem

Switching to Android.

I travel to China half of the year, I NEED and unlocked phone so that i can pop in my Chinese SIM card when i'm there.

iPhone is just not for me.

FU Apple.... so much for Freedom in the US.
Good... bye!
The thing here is CHOICE!
YOU CHOOSE to own an iPhone or NOT!
There are a bazillion choices now!
Just JB the darn thing... takes 3 minutes!
Get over it!

Jailbreak IS NOT the same as Unlock. You Jailbreak the iOS in order to get full control. Unlock has to do with baseband in order to have baseband communicate with a different cell operator. Meh...
 
Good... bye!
The thing here is CHOICE!
YOU CHOOSE to own an iPhone or NOT!
There are a bazillion choices now!
Just JB the darn thing... takes 3 minutes!
Get over it!
Can an iphone4 on 4.3.1 that's never been jailbroken still be JB and unlocked? I lose track of where things are at now, but thought the window had closed (for the time being) for first time jailbreaking/unlocking.
 
So let me get this straight:

1: ATT will not unlock your iphone no matter what

2: Foreign carriers are not allowed to unlock my ATT iPhone

3: I'm better off buying a another phone when I go to Europe
that seems to be the gist. Hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong. I'm heading on sabbatical in the UK soon. I have an old JB iphone 3 but would rather use my iphone 4 of course.
 
This would be stealing, as my contract obliges me to continue paying for the cost of the hardware, which really isn't paid for, when I first get the phone. I agree with the others however, that AT&T should unlock the phone, once the contract is up, or that Apple should offer an unlocked phone, albeit at a higher price. I am thinking of expat pilots who live in the UAE flying for an international carrier for 20 days and then get to come back stateside for 10. They really need a solution like that. The next thing that AT&T should do, then, is have a different pricing structure for those with legitimately unlocked phones. After all, that phone didn't cost AT&T a dime.

Only speaking to the US market. In re equipment cost recovery:
After the 2 year contract, I do not see a reduction in my monthly Verizon bill. I have paid for the device, so why is there no reduction?
 
Tired of Apple's locked ecosystem

Switching to Android.

I travel to China half of the year, I NEED and unlocked phone so that i can pop in my Chinese SIM card when i'm there.

iPhone is just not for me.

FU Apple.... so much for Freedom in the US.
WTF!? If you think that one company's choices take away your freedom, then: 1. You rely to much on one company and 2. If you think they are taking your freedom away just move to Libya and report back to me in a year.
 
Agreed. Unfortunately, The FCC has been derelict in failing to bring the wireless providers to account.

As to paying $170 to unlock an iPhone, why not simply jailbreak it and be done with it for a whole lot less money. One of the jailbreaks I have seen is quite simple, although it is specific to the particular iOS version which requires that it be done again every time there is an iOS update (after the jailbreak crew works out the new version).

The store for non-Apple apps, "Cydia", is amusingly named.

u make it sound so easy, the iPhone 4 can't be unlocked with the latest baseband yet

After the 2 year contract, I do not see a reduction in my monthly Verizon bill. I have paid for the device, so why is there no reduction?

exactly, thats how it works here in germany. u either buy it unlocked but not subsidized without a plan or u get it locked for like 1 euro and once your contract expires after 2 years u get it unlocked for free OR u pay 100 euro to get it unlocked right away which is still cheaper considering the iPhone itself was only 1 euro.
 
Nice try. Next time make sure you know what you're posting about. Greenp0ison is a Jailbreak, not an unlock. (not only that, Greenp0ison is an OLD jailbreak which only works with v4.1)

The *only* unlock available, is the Dev Teams UltraSn0w, and it only works with old basebands. Since 4.1 the baseband has not been unlockable.

People do not seem to understand that a Jailbreak is not an unlock. They are two different things altogether (the unlock requires the phone to be JB).
 
This would be stealing, as my contract obliges me to continue paying for the cost of the hardware, which really isn't paid for, when I first get the phone. I agree with the others however, that AT&T should unlock the phone, once the contract is up, or that Apple should offer an unlocked phone, albeit at a higher price. I am thinking of expat pilots who live in the UAE flying for an international carrier for 20 days and then get to come back stateside for 10. They really need a solution like that. The next thing that AT&T should do, then, is have a different pricing structure for those with legitimately unlocked phones. After all, that phone didn't cost AT&T a dime.

To many Apple fans, everything that is against Apple policy looks like stealing. It is not. You still have to pay for your contract or pay the termination fee (which recovers the cost of hardware). So, feel free to jail-break or unlock. :p


WTF!? If you think that one company's choices take away your freedom, then: 1. You rely to much on one company and 2. If you think they are taking your freedom away just move to Libya and report back to me in a year.

Do you really think Apple unlocks iPhones in Lybia? You wish.
 
To many Apple fans, everything that is against Apple policy looks like stealing. It is not. You still have to pay for your contract or pay the termination fee (which recovers the cost of hardware). So, feel free to jail-break or unlock. :p




Do you really think Apple unlocks iPhones in Lybia? You wish.
I was referring to the fact that he couldn't take one company's choice.
 
huh? maybe for the $45 unlimited service SIM card within its belly? duh

And risk the SIM being blacklisted? It has happened to many already. They aren't stupid, especially the idiots using gigs and gigs of data. Plus you're out the phone as it is locked to that SIM; kiss your $200 down the drain. It's a kludge that could be shut down at any time.

On this IMEI unlock - it is legitimate, it can be done, and AFAIK you can actually use a jailbreak tool called SAM to prevent Apple from revoking the unlock down the road. Not 100% sure on that but these services (most of them) are legit and phones are being unlocked. Not cheap, but considering there is generally a $200 premium (or more) for a factory unlocked iPhone 4 versus, say, an AT&T model...you can do the math.
 
Using the jailbreak tool 'SAM' it is possible to backup the authorization token iTunes exchanges with Apple for the unlock. You should be able to back up the activation (unlocked) and never have to worry again. Even if Apple comes back and revokes it, you will be able to swap in the token which allows it.
 
As opposed to travelling accidentally? :D

Seriously though, you have my sympathies; roaming rates are horrendous. We often complain about "high prices" here in NZ but we really don't understand how lucky we are; unlocked phones, no falling back to 2G, don't pay for incoming calls...
That was the iPad auto spell check. That should read "internationally."
 
I got notice from cutmysim that my order shipped. Meaning I am in the unlock queue. I should have it by tomorrow afternoon. Woohoo!!!!
 
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