Weights: How much lighter will the new iPad Pros be?

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  1. MareLuce, Oct 22, 2018
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    MareLuce macrumors 6502a

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    Current large iPad Pro (12.9") = 723 g (1.594 lb)
    Current small iPad Pro (10.5") = 477 g (1.052 lb)
    Source: Wikipedia
    Model: for WiFi + Cellular model

    EDIT: 2018 10 30 11:38am ET:

    From live store photo
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    From weighing on 2 different OXO kitchen scales just now:
    [ my 2017 small iPad Pro (10.5") = 482g ] + [ my 2017 Apple Keyboard = 248g ] = 730g

    I'd love the new larger one. My cast is off, but grip strength for picking up things is not 100%.

    Weight of current 10.5” iPad Pro + Apple keyboard works.
    I wish the new 13" could weigh what the current 10.5" does. Is that even possible?

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  2. AceFernalld macrumors 68000

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    If the rumored dimensions on the new 12.9” are true it’s a 17% reduction in total volume. Extrapolating that reduction to weight, the new 12.9” would weigh about 1.32 pounds. Which would be awesome.
     
  3. ericwn macrumors 68020

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    Nobody here knows until the product has been announced. They might change the thickness and mix of materials used as well.
     
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    Yes, should have added that my 1.32 figure is only a guesstimation. The volume:weight ratio is not guaranteed to stay the same.
     
  5. macduke macrumors G4

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    The other thing to factor into any calculations is the battery density and volume. With smaller chip processes could come a smaller logic board and more battery filling in around it, perhaps with a little increase in density to offset the larger display on the smaller one and the smaller dimension for battery on the larger one.

    I think the smaller on will be mostly the same weight and the bigger one will shed some weight but not as much as one would hope or expect. They still have to power it. They might have to rework the acoustics for the thinner enclosure anyway and with the need for more battery capacity vs. air gaps for audio, some audio wizards at Apple might need to cook up a solution. It does have a lot of speaker, lol.
     
  6. MareLuce thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Thank you @AceFernalld! That's exactly the kind of guess / speculation I was hoping for.

    17% less volume projected for the 13" --> 1.32lbs -ish = 599grams -ish

    From weighing on 2 different OXO kitchen scales just now:
    [ my 2017 iPad Pro (10.5") = 482g ] + [ my 2017 Apple Keyboard = 248g ] = 730g

    [ Possible new 2018 iPad Pro (13") = 599g-ish ] + [ possible new 2018 Apple Keyboard = 275g-ish ] = 874g

    hmm. 874g vs 730g.

    Maybe I should just get the lightest possible cover that does not include a keyboard.
    I mostly use the keyboard to keep it at a certain angle for use. Not really to use as a keyboard.

    I definitely need some kind of a cover. Otherwise it's a slippery big piece of soap that I'd drop.
     
  7. DNichter macrumors G3

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    I am anxious to see what the 12.9 ends up weighing. I would love the extra screen space, but I need mobility in my office. The 10.5/11 is likely the one I go for unless they can get the weight to about 1 lb.
     
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    I expect the iPad Pro 12.9'' to be 17-20% thinner and 580-600g. Once the keyboard is attached I expect it under 920g for both, probably 820g. It would make it around 10% lighter than the Macbook 12'' (920g) whilst having a larger screen and more power - great for marketing.

    Another option is that the Keyboard gets slightly thicker and heavier to incorporate back lit keys, in that case they keyboard could be around 300g and the total weight of iPad and Keyboard would match that of the Macbook 12''.
     
  9. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

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    Maybe next year Apple will cut the thickness in half and really reduce the weight in half, too!:eek:
     
  10. spacebro Suspended

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    I used to think the iPad was light. Compared to a MacBook, it is. But compared to an empty bag, it really adds heft to carry and they should make it lighter.
     
  11. gadgetfreaky macrumors 65816

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    1.3 pounds and I'd def get the 12.9 pounder.
     
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    Think I’m dead set on 12.9 now with my max I feel the bigger iPad is more ideal.
     
  13. bwApple! fwApple! macrumors member

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    "If the rumored dimensions on the new 12.9” are true it’s a 17% reduction in total volume. Extrapolating that reduction to weight, the new 12.9” would weigh about 1.32 pounds."

    The iPad Air 2 was almost 20% less voluminous than the iPad Air 1, yet it weighed only 7% less..
     
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    Any guesses on what the new 11/10.5 will weigh. Think they’ll get it under a pound?
     
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    Hope not. Usually they make up for smaller battery with efficiency improvements. If I remember correctly the Xs has a smaller battery than X but lasts a bit longer
     
  17. MareLuce thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Wow. Thanks for adding that. They must have eliminated every spare cell of empty air space and replaced it with battery. Or eliminated lighter components and replaced with battery.

    Edit #1:
    After being bummed for a minute thinking about this possibility,
    maybe...the previous iPad Pro already had the maximum weight density possible because all the easy volume optimizations have already occurred in the early revisions.

    Edit #2:
    I can't wait !!
     
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    I'm on the fence with size. I want to be able to shoot my camera tethered to the iPad Pro and the larger one might make more sense, but at the same time the smaller might just do the job and be a little easier to handle. I'll have to go into a store and compare the 2 once they are available.
     
  19. Jimpilot macrumors 6502a

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    Kind of in the same boat. I have a 12.9 and 10.5 now. I find the 12 is too big and gets little use. If the new small one is 11 inches then it will be my choice but if it stays 10.5 and shrinks then how small the 12.9 shrinks to will be the deciding factor.

    I hope they are available Friday but logic suggests not until the 9th. Either way the new one is going on my next trip.
     
  20. MareLuce thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    WOW !!!

    2017 large iPad Pro (12.9") = 723 g (1.594 lb)
    2018 large iPad Pro = 633 grams!

    Much bigger weight loss than the smaller one.
    90 grams less
    12% less weight

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  21. bwApple! fwApple! macrumors member

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    So, 23.5% less volume, 12% less weight.
     
  22. Plx32 macrumors member

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    2015 large iPad Pro (12.9") = 713 g (1.57 pounds)
    2017 large iPad Pro (12.9") = 677 g (1.49 pounds)
    2018 large iPad Pro (12.9") = 631 g (1.39 pounds)

    The 2nd gen iPad Pro 12.9" was already quite lighter
     
  23. AlexJoda macrumors 6502a

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    The new iPP 12.9 might not be lighter and the 11" might be even a lot heavier if you count in the smart cover/folio and smart keyboard/folio. These things are looking like they have double the material because of the back protection than before. I choose the smart cover and not the smart keyboard for my 12.9 because of the weight difference. It weights 155 grams. If it might have double that weight the new 12.9 with a smart folio is substantially heavier than before...
     
  24. LiveWireless macrumors member

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    Yes it would be good to know the weight of the 12.9 w/Smart Keyboard vs new 12.9 with Smart Keyboard Folio. My 12.9 is pretty stationary, but when I do carry it I put the keyboard on it, so that is part of my carry weight. Generally I run my iPads naked, unless transporting them. I use to use smart covers, but decided to try keyboard covers with the pros, and don't like them on the iPads when I'm hand holding them.
     
  25. AlexJoda macrumors 6502a

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    I am also trying running my iPad 12.9 naked while holding it but I am often too lazy to take the Smart Cover off. This 155 grams are sometimes acceptable but 300 grams would not...
     

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