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other than it's really cool, why do we even have this? what is the benefit over what we already had and fingerprint ID?
 

urkel

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Its rated to be 84% more Braggy than previous version.

Seriously though. The claims of FaceID superiority are not a true as some would like you to believe

Security
- The "1 in a million" claim is BS. TouchID requires physical contact with the phone while FaceID can be triggered by simply looking at it. That means if you keep people from touching your phone then nobody could even try to break in.

- Also, having a passcode requirement still means ANYONE who is taller than a cubicle wall can eventually figure out that you use 1111 when you reboot

Hands Free
- You can't unlock TouchID with wet hands when doing dishes but FaceID works since its hands free.... but if your hands are wet then you can't swipe up so you're in the same pickle.

Speed
- FaceID is surprisingly faster than any of our expectations. But its not close to being as fast as TouchID. So in a quickdraw then TouchID will pull out of a holster quicker than FaceID.

Single User
- Unless you're hiding something from your spouse, there is a benefit to allowing them fingerprint access to your phone. But FaceID only supports one face.

- (BTW. At dinner my wife picked up my phone to read an incoming text, got annoyed it had no TouchID and just shined it at my face from across the table to unlock. It was amazing as a tech demo but scary to think someone can do that to you if you're at a table of coworkers or a meeting with the towns local criminals).

Multiple Fingers is Less Errors
- Another benefit of multiple users is 5 chances to put your own thumbprint. I used to get errors long ago with TouchID on my right thumb. A trick i learned is to use 3 slots for the same thumb and that reduced my error-rate to about zero. FaceID and its one Face rule means I fail out quite a bit with my CarMount or in odd lighting.

Passwords
- Going to a website and having the FaceID symbol show up and your password magically appear was pretty cool. But when I went back to the 7+ i noticed that feature existed already but simply required a thumbprint. So, while the FaceID is (sometimes) better, Touching a phone that you’re already holding is hardly inconvenient.

Less Cancer
- Okay, so it won't be cancerous and i'm probably just paranoid. But still... the consistent never-ending spraying of dots on your face and eyeballs every moment you use an X seems potentially dangerous doesnt it? Who knows what sort of long term exposure will result in.


Look, I dont hate FaceID. Its really amazing. But, the introduction of Face ID did NOT mean TouchID is infererior or dead. So having it chopped off reduced options for users and crippled the user experience. And that really sucks.
 
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CharlesShaw

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So, there we have it. Change is bad. /s

Seriously, some users (a friend included) never even set up touch ID.
 
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appleguy123

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The fact that I can use it when my fingers are sweaty or wet from cleaning something (I do this a lot at my job) has changed how I use my phone. I still have this weird mental unease that my phone is unusable until my thumbs are completely dry that I'm working to undo.

FaceID also I think is better in that it feels more passive. Most of the time I forget that I am doing anything to authenticate my phone. I just know that swiping up gets me into my phone. It's a simple change but I really like it. Especially useful when reading a notification or something.

I wish that FaceID could be ever so slightly faster but I'm not missing TouchID as much as I thought I would.
 

mattopotamus

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The biggest benefit for me is not having to consistently stop to scan my fingerprint. Since the phone recognizes your face, websites and notifcations on the lock screen work without delay. It’s pretty amazing.
 

Phone Junky

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The only reason it even exists is because the cameras take up less real estate than the home button. Apples attempt at making a bezel less phone. (except the notch takes a bite out of that bezel less experience)
 

mcarthon

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Uhhh more space for the screen...
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The biggest benefit for me is not having to consistently stop to scan my fingerprint. Since the phone recognizes your face, websites and notifcations on the lock screen work without delay. It’s pretty amazing.

Yeah I been saying t light take a extra half a second to log in to the phone but with app logins and everything else it’s just much faster
 

silverblack

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FaceID integrates seamlessly with iCloud Keychain. As I am visiting various websites, iPhone X automatically checks my FaceID and logs me in as I go without me doing anything. Same when I use password protected apps (banking), I am logged in without me doing anything.

With finger ID, it will pause and wait for my print to register, every freaking single time.
 

Relentless Power

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Face ID is faster and works Far more often for me than Touch ID ever did. I’d say Face ID works 99% of the time and it’s so fast I forget it’s there until it doesn’t work. I love it. Me thinks those who criticize it have never actually used it. I also love all the applications I can open with it.

I think turning off attention awareness makes a difference too. That way it's not focusing on your eyes and the unlock rate seems more successful. At least for those who have disabled this feature, seem to have a stronger success rate of unlocking their iPhone.
 

Furzul

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The only thing that I can see in the touch vs Face ID argument is that when using Apple Pay it is smoother with Touch ID. Although I must admit that I do prefer Face ID for every thing else.
 

Superrjamz54

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The only reason it even exists is because the cameras take up less real estate than the home button. Apples attempt at making a bezel less phone. (except the notch takes a bite out of that bezel less experience)
The camera takes up bezel on every single phone ever made.
 

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These are some great answers, and I can see some real benefits, like when you are using your phone, and it auto-unlocks via keychain.

Thanks for the thoughts.
 

DiveKitty

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For me:

1. Works even with wet or sweaty fingers (not sure what previous poster meant about not being able to swipe with wet finger, never been an issue for me);
2. Works with my touch sensitive gloves;
3. Very seamless in apps (banking passwords, Apple Pay)
4. The "secret spy" notifications are pretty cool.

I love Face ID. For me it is very fast, smooth, and works much better than Touch ID ever did (or does, on my iPads). It is so fast and seamless I don't even really realize it is there anymore. I also think it is neat that it sort of "learns" changes. It unlocks fine for me with sunglasses, toques/hats, scarves, hand on chin, lamp seemingly blocking part of my face (leaning over night table), while it is flat on my desk, in my lap, and so on.
 
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Ralfi

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Probably mentioned, but if your hands are dirty, & you want to open an App, you can just tap the screen with a nuckle to wake it & ask Siri to do it whilst looking at the screen....you won't be hit with the annoying "you'll need to unlock your iPhone first".
 

haruhiko

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The only thing that I can see in the touch vs Face ID argument is that when using Apple Pay it is smoother with Touch ID. Although I must admit that I do prefer Face ID for every thing else.
I tried Apple Pay on the X yesterday. Just double tap the side button and Face ID authenticates, put your device to the reader and ding! The transaction is completed under a second.
 

Furzul

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I tried Apple Pay on the X yesterday. Just double tap the side button and Face ID authenticates, put your device to the reader and ding! The transaction is completed under a second.
I agree, it does work well. What I meant was, with Touch ID, just pull your phone out of your pocket, thumb on the button and “ ping” job done. Not a big problem, I just think it was smoother.
 

bushman4

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The advantage of Face ID over Touch ID ISIS that it allows Apple to have an edge to edge screen
 

andreyush

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Even FirstGen TouchID works wonderfull for me...Stop being so obsessed with this..It's a matter of 0.0005 seconds -.-'
 
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