what are the chances of macmini 2013 having ddr4 ram?

Discussion in 'Mac mini' started by MacHaris, Nov 15, 2013.

  1. Lesser Evets macrumors 68040

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    More important: what are the chances of a 2013 MacMini even being released?

    Slim.

    The updated iMacs have DDR3. The mini will probably follow that same road.
     
  2. Moonjumper macrumors 68000

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    DDR4 will be expensive for a year or 2, and unlikely to appear in the lowest cost model first. A second generation of the new Mac Pro is likely to be the first to see it. So a long way off.
     
  3. mvmanolov macrumors 6502a

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    i think i agree especially if we don't see the islet refresh when the MP is released...
     
  4. grandM macrumors 6502a

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    raise

    In Europe all mac minis have increased in price with 10 euro.
     
  5. mvmanolov macrumors 6502a

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    hum, perhaps we may see a refresh after all….

    when did that happen do you know?
     
  6. mpantone macrumors 6502

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    My honest guess is 0.0001%.

    The Haswell architecture supports DDR3 memory, not DDR4. It would basically be a change of strategy if Apple were to introduce a new major architecture on the Mac mini, a product that does not sell in large quantities.

    Historically, Apple has used their best-selling lines to introduce new technology. For several years, that would be the Mac notebook lines (and the iPhone for the handheld device space).

    Apple has historically made the Mac mini as a headless MacBook, using power-sipping mobile processors. This is not the product line that would see a new RAM interface first.

    The likely place for a new memory architecture introduction would be the MacBook or iMac lines.
     
  7. Moonjumper macrumors 68000

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    It happened a month or so ago. Currency adjustments usually only happen when a model is updated. An adjustment without a refresh suggests a new model is some way off.
     
  8. Fishrrman macrumors G4

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    [[ what are the chances of macmini 2013 having ddr4 ram? ]]

    The "chances" are zero, because there isn't going to BE a "Mac Mini 2013".

    Look for first quarter '14 as the earliest possible release.
     
  9. mvmanolov macrumors 6502a

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    yeah, that also makes sense. this is the epitome of the problem with trying to make a decision both versions of the argument (mini soon or mini not soon) have very valid and agreeable points….

    For this reason i think i'll buy one next week :D
     
  10. scbond macrumors 6502

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    If the new Mac Pro didn't get it then the Mac mini certainly won't. The Mac mini isn't a performance machine...Apple would have no interest in pushing the price up to offer performance that most of the mini customers don't need.
     
  11. old-wiz macrumors G3

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    Does the system not have to go to Broadwell chipset in order to use DDR4?

    I thought Haswell was limited to DDR3, and the mini isn't even up to Haswell yet.
     
  12. grandM macrumors 6502a

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    increase

    happened a few days ago. A week at most. Don't get why a price increase 'd announce a new model though?
     
  13. mvmanolov macrumors 6502a

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    the logic would be that a new mini would cost more so if they up the price a little bit it may mean they are about to refresh. That being said though. It may also mean that there will be no refresh soon as they could have upped the prices at the same time as the new one comes out.


    The other things is, the current top model mini beast/is on par with many of the current haswell products (Geekbench) so i am starting to think that the mini won't see a haswell at all.. :(
     
  14. Lesser Evets macrumors 68040

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    It could also be that Apple saw the spreadsheets on price/sales/revenue and said, "WOH! WE'RE LOSING MONEY!" and upped the price.

    IOW, it had nothing to do with a refresh whatsoever.
     
  15. blanka macrumors 68000

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    Will there be DDR4 uberhaupt? On video cards they skipped it and went straight to DDR5.
     
  16. Schnort macrumors regular

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    Apparently GDDR# (what's in graphics cards) isn't the same thing as the equivalent DDR#.
     
  17. deconstruct60, Nov 19, 2013
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    No. It is actually Skylake

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylake_(microarchitecture)

    which comes after Broadwell. It will be at least mid 2015 before mainstream market gets to DDR4. ( if economy is weak that could slide into 2016). So the question underlying this tread... mini getting DDR4 is roughly akin to whether the 2013-2014 Mac Mini is going to use a 2015 part. Extremely probably not.

    Haswell and Broadwell share a socket/pin-out implementation so the memory type is going to be the same.

    Xeon E5 v3 (Haswell) is suppose to show up late in 2014. Those and a likely Mac Pro update would be first to move to DDR4.
     

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