Both of them are always the toughest to shop for. Last year I got them both humidifiers. Humidifiers! I have no idea what to get them. I only ever see my grandma(s) reading the bible. I've always wanted to get them an iPad but whenever they mess with mine they think its so complicated and see no real use for it. I mention to them the bible app, but she ponders why. I can understand that. 2 X-Mas' ago I got them each a gift basket (from Target) each filled with like women stuff; such as moisturizers, exfoliators, scrubs, etc. Just thought i'd ask for advice, figuring i'm sure i'm not the only one in such a jam. Aside from the grandmas, I still gotta find something for my aunt (probably an iPod Shuffle), my mom (no clue), and my dad (probably an apple tv)... As for the Apple TV, I may go for the 1st gen, considering I know he'll never uses iTunes on his old Windows laptop and the old ATVs can hold a bunch of movies, of which i'll add from my iTunes and present to him.. My only concern is is the old ATV can do HD Netflix and HD YouTube.. But I digress.