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wellander1

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The computer has been running slower the normal so I did this.
When I run first aid it fails with the following message in the details

First Aid found corruption that needs to be repaired. To repair the startup volume, run First Aid from Recovery. What did I do?
Click Done to continue
Running First Aid on “Untitled” (disk1s1)

NOTE: First Aid will temporarily lock the startup volume.

Verifying file system.
Volume could not be unmounted.
Using live mode.
Performing fsck_apfs -n -l -x /dev/rdisk1s1
Checking the container superblock.
Checking the EFI jumpstart record.
Checking the space manager.
Checking the space manager free queue trees.
Checking the object map.
Checking volume.
Checking the APFS volume superblock.
The volume Untitled was formatted by hfs_convert (945.260.7) and last modified by apfs_kext (945.275.7).
Checking the object map.
Checking the snapshot metadata tree.
Checking the snapshot metadata.
Checking the extent ref tree.
Checking the fsroot tree.
error: directory valence check: directory (oid 0x80062): nchildren (1) does not match drec count (0)
error: directory valence check: directory (oid 0xe002e): nchildren (1) does not match drec count (0)
Verifying allocated space.
Performing deferred repairs.
error: nchildren of inode object (id 524386) does not match expected value
error: nchildren of inode object (id 917550) does not match expected value
Deferred repairs failed.
The volume /dev/rdisk1s1 could not be verified completely.
File system check exit code is 8.
Restoring the original state found as mounted.

Operation successful.
 

keysofanxiety

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It's okay, it might be repaired outside the OS through Disk Utility if you boot via CMD + R on startup.

However before we progress one way or another, please can you confirm what model Mac you have (e.g., 13" 2012 MacBook Pro)? It's really important we get this beforehand. The reason I ask this is because we can run some troubleshooting to see if the hard-drive's on its way out and if it needs to be repaired, or if it's just a software issue, or if it's something else like the SATA cable.
 

ApplesandOranges

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The computer has been running slower the normal so I did this.
When I run first aid it fails with the following message in the details

First Aid found corruption that needs to be repaired. To repair the startup volume, run First Aid from Recovery. What did I do?
Click Done to continue
Running First Aid on “Untitled” (disk1s1)

NOTE: First Aid will temporarily lock the startup volume.

Verifying file system.
Volume could not be unmounted.
Using live mode.
Performing fsck_apfs -n -l -x /dev/rdisk1s1
Checking the container superblock.
Checking the EFI jumpstart record.
Checking the space manager.
Checking the space manager free queue trees.
Checking the object map.
Checking volume.
Checking the APFS volume superblock.
The volume Untitled was formatted by hfs_convert (945.260.7) and last modified by apfs_kext (945.275.7).
Checking the object map.
Checking the snapshot metadata tree.
Checking the snapshot metadata.
Checking the extent ref tree.
Checking the fsroot tree.
error: directory valence check: directory (oid 0x80062): nchildren (1) does not match drec count (0)
error: directory valence check: directory (oid 0xe002e): nchildren (1) does not match drec count (0)
Verifying allocated space.
Performing deferred repairs.
error: nchildren of inode object (id 524386) does not match expected value
error: nchildren of inode object (id 917550) does not match expected value
Deferred repairs failed.
The volume /dev/rdisk1s1 could not be verified completely.
File system check exit code is 8.
Restoring the original state found as mounted.

Operation successful.

Need to know your computer model, year, and specs to offer an assessment.

The message you received indicates you need to restart your computer and run disk utility from recovery mode. This process can take a fair amount of time depending on your computer and specs.

Step 1: Run First Aid
  1. Boot from the Recovery HD volume by restarting your Mac while pressing the Command and R keys. ...
  2. Select Disk Utility and click Continue.
  3. When the Disk Utility window appears, click the First Aid tab to select that function of Disk Utility.
Use at your own risk. I only offer suggestions. You could have a drive that is close to failing or it could be a host of other things.
 

wellander1

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Hope this works.
 

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keysofanxiety

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Cool, hard drive is fine.

Turn off the Mac and turn it back on. Immediately hold CMD + R on startup. It’ll boot into recovery. Open disk utility. If your drive is greyed out, right-click the bottom Macintosh HD (indented) and select unlock. Type in your password.

Then run first aid as you did in the OS and it should repair. Let me know if this works. :)
 
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Fishrrman

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If that 2014 Mini has only a platter-based hard drive inside, it's going to be SLOW.

You will NEVER get very good performance from the internal HDD.
That's a "fact of 2014 Mini life", and it's not going to change.

Fastest, easiest, cheapest, safest way to make it run faster and better:
Add an EXTERNAL USB3 SSD.
Then set up the SSD to become the boot drive.
These are downright CHEAP now, and ANYONE can do this.

Your boot/run speeds will jump up -- you will be back here saying, "I never would have believed it could run this well!"
What are you waiting for...?
 

wellander1

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Ran from the recovery drive and the drive came out clean with no problems.
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If that 2014 Mini has only a platter-based hard drive inside, it's going to be SLOW.

You will NEVER get very good performance from the internal HDD.
That's a "fact of 2014 Mini life", and it's not going to change.

Fastest, easiest, cheapest, safest way to make it run faster and better:
Add an EXTERNAL USB3 SSD.
Then set up the SSD to become the boot drive.
These are downright CHEAP now, and ANYONE can do this.

Your boot/run speeds will jump up -- you will be back here saying, "I never would have believed it could run this well!"
What are you waiting for...?
Unfortunately I have all of my usb ports used.
 

Fishrrman

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"Unfortunately I have all of my usb ports used."

Quite frankly, that's the most lame excuse that I have EVER seen posted here at MacRumors.

UNPLUG something, and use the port for the USB3 "boot SSD".

Take the advice I gave to you above.
You will become a VERY HAPPY Mac user if you do so.

If you need "more ports", buy a USB3 hub.
 

wellander1

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"Unfortunately I have all of my usb ports used."

Quite frankly, that's the most lame excuse that I have EVER seen posted here at MacRumors.

UNPLUG something, and use the port for the USB3 "boot SSD".

Take the advice I gave to you above.
You will become a VERY HAPPY Mac user if you do so.

If you need "more ports", buy a USB3 hub.
Any good ones.
 

tiger168

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Jul 16, 2020
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Hope this works.

Oh, boy, I was trying to update my iMac to Catalina and encounter these while prepping my iMac, since I couldn't download the update as it continues to time-out for some reason. And when I download the update manually, and ran it that way, the disks were showing all but, none were usaeble, so I ran the Disk Utility and got this, search the forum and got here... Please help!!!
 

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richmlow

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Hello tiger168,


From your screenshots, it appears that your Apple HDD is on the verge of catastrophic disk failure. I would recommend that you do the following (in this order).

1. Immediately backup (on a different storage device such as external drive, USB thumb drive, cloud storage, etc.) any critical files and data.

2. Create an exact copy of the current drive (Using Carbon Copy Cleaner 2) onto an external storage device.

3. Perform Disk Utility Repair and see if the problem is solved.

4. If Disk Utility Repair does not solve the issue, it's time to replace the HDD. There is no point in trusting an unreliable
HDD for your irreplaceable data.


Good luck!


richmlow



Oh, boy, I was trying to update my iMac to Catalina and encounter these while prepping my iMac, since I couldn't download the update as it continues to time-out for some reason. And when I download the update manually, and ran it that way, the disks were showing all but, none were usaeble, so I ran the Disk Utility and got this, search the forum and got here... Please help!!!
 
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Cycling Asia

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If that 2014 Mini has only a platter-based hard drive inside, it's going to be SLOW.

You will NEVER get very good performance from the internal HDD.
That's a "fact of 2014 Mini life", and it's not going to change.

Fastest, easiest, cheapest, safest way to make it run faster and better:
Add an EXTERNAL USB3 SSD.
Then set up the SSD to become the boot drive.
These are downright CHEAP now, and ANYONE can do this.

Your boot/run speeds will jump up -- you will be back here saying, "I never would have believed it could run this well!"
What are you waiting for...?

Actually, I recently installed a 256GB NVMe for under $100 AUD. For comparison, the Samsung T5 256GB costs $103 AUD. Installing an NVMe requires a T6 tamperproof driver to remove the base, everything is accessible.

I previous was running from the external SSD, the internal is faster still.

Blackmagic read speeds were something like: HDD ~50MB/s, USB ~300MB/s, NVMe ~600MB/s

One thing I did notice is that the Mac now utilising more CPU than previously due to the fact that swapping to the disc is fast enough to not cause process blocking.
 

tiger168

macrumors newbie
Jul 16, 2020
7
3
Hello tiger168,


From your screenshots, it appears that your Apple HDD is on the verge of catastrophic disk failure. I would recommend that you do the following (in this order).

1. Immediately backup (on a different storage device such as external drive, USB thumb drive, cloud storage, etc.) any critical files and data.

2. Create an exact copy of the current drive (Using Carbon Copy Cleaner 2) onto an external storage device.

3. Perform Disk Utility Repair and see if the problem is solved.

4. If Disk Utility Repair does not solve the issue, it's time to replace the HDD. There is no point in trusting an unreliable
HDD for your irreplaceable data.


Good luck!


richmlow

Oh, WOW. THank you! ok. Let me get started on your recommendation...
 
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Poppae

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Mar 9, 2023
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"Unfortunately I have all of my usb ports used."

Quite frankly, that's the most lame excuse that I have EVER seen posted here at MacRumors.

UNPLUG something, and use the port for the USB3 "boot SSD".

Take the advice I gave to you above.
You will become a VERY HAPPY Mac user if you do so.

If you need "more ports", buy a USB3 hub.

Let’s see… USB3 device plugged into a 2014 Mini’s USB 2.0 port gives you…?

Yeah, an SSD plugged into a USB2 port will give some marginal improvement, but nothing like it would if the computer has a USB3 port.

That’s the most lame advice I’ve seen posted to ANY technical board.
 

CoastalOR

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hwojtek

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Congratulations on reviving a thread 3 years old, you both, as well as endorsing the lamest ever suggestion of booting the computer from USB3 with real-life transfers slower than SATA3.
 
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