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JoeTomasone

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I ran across this quote in another post:

Sitting on phones is normal, has been normal for over a decade.

So I started wondering what people were saying about keeping a phone in their pocket and what happened when they did BEFORE the iPhone 6 came out. Turns out that keeping a phone in your pocket hasn't always been rainbows and unicorns...



Galaxy S: Broke camera lens, takes great pains to say it wasn't in his back pocket, but insinuates that it could potentially break while in front pocket if he sits:

http://www.samsunggalaxysforum.com/samsung-galaxys-general-discussion/just-found-out-back-camera-lens-cover-cracked!!/


Nexus 4: "what's annoying is that the screen broke while in my pocket, I didn't drop it" (post #5)

https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/just-cracked-my-screen-fml.62129/


Galaxy S3, screen cracked in pocket:

https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/777720?tstart=0


Galaxy Note review, scared to put it in pocket for fear it would break:

http://www.powercx.com/?p=2664


Article entitled "Nexus One Shouldn’t Go In Your Pocket", has quote from HTC saying, “Putting a phone in a tight pair of jeans and sitting down would usually cause the kind of damage, People sometimes forget that they don’t go in pockets.”

http://phandroid.com/2010/03/05/nexus-one-shouldnt-go-in-your-pocket/


Nexus 4's cracking in pocket. "Broke mine by falling asleep on the couch with it in my front pocket.". "same happened to mine."

http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-4-cracked-back-glass-135237/


LG Intuition broke in pocket (post #21):

http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon-lg-intuition/206591-apparently-im-only-crazy-person-so-far.html


Samsung Epic, not meant for tight pants or pockets (post #7):

http://forums.androidcentral.com/sprint-epic-4g/44359-internal-screen-cracked.html


Nexus 7, broke in back pocket (post #23):

http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-7-tablet-2012/194197-oops-dropped-cracked-nexus-7-screen-sol.html


"Local repair center" says that cracked screen could be caused by putting Galaxy S4 in rear pocket and sitting (post #15):

http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s4/305142-brand-new-galaxy-s4-broken-no-reason.html


Nexus breaks in pocket. One commenter (post #7) says "Given the additional length of the Nexus, it seems reasonable that there would be more pressure created to flex the phone.":

http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon-galaxy-nexus/144312-screen-my-nexus-cracked-need-advice.html


Epic 4G cracks in back pocket (post #15):

http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s3/178630-gorilla-glass-2-pos.html


S4 cracked while in cargo pocket (post #3):

http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...4-venting-lcd-cracked-no-apparent-reason.html


Nexus 7 cracks in cargo pants pocket:

http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-7-tablet-2013/336169-cracked-screen-but-i-didnt-drop-smash-warning.html


Galaxy S4: I'd keep it out of your back pocket.. (post #2):

http://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/forums/forumtopicpage/board-id/Android/thread-id/19121


"Galaxy S4 cracked in my jeans front pocket, and there is a wide range of evidence that this is a known problem":

http://support.t-mobile.com/message/276473


Galaxy S4 cracked in front jeans pocket:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2287882


Galaxy Note cracked in back pocket. Commenter says to NEVER have a smart phone in your back pocket!

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1977366


Don't keep your phone in your back pocket, say these folks:

http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s5/843462-s5-back-pocket-phone.html


Carrying Note 3 in pocket, not a good idea:

http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-3/340142-galaxy-note-3-durability.html


Xperia X breaks in pocket:

http://forums.meteor.ie/t5/Sony/Xperia-Z-broken-screen-in-my-pocket/td-p/115734


Xperia X1 cracks in pocket:

http://hellopeter.com/sony-ericsson/complaints/sony-xperia-z1-compact-cracked-in-pocket-1409750


LG G2 cracked in back pocket when sat on:

https://www.facebook.com/LGUSAMobile/posts/642669755768273


2 LG G2s crack in pockets (post 7 & 8), commenter says carrying in back pocket will definitely crack the screen (post 13):

https://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/155429


Motorola Q screen cracks in pocket:

http://www.droidforums.net/threads/cracked-screen-11-day-old-phone-help.89976/


Unspecified Windows phone cracks in pocket:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/winphone/forum/wp8-wpnetwork/cracked-screen-and-cannot-unlock-the-phone-to-use/77737b38-c8fc-404a-9598-9991f20a1acf


Nexus 4 breaks in back pocket:

http://www.reddit.com/r/nexus4/comments/1yxi4v/help_cracked_screen_cant_unlock_phone_now/


I feel uncomfortable when I sit with my phone in my pocket, and my friend's broke:

https://stonybrook.digication.com/sion_kim/Trend_that_is_interesting_to_me1


HTC One X, back pocket, sat, cracked:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1913188


Galaxy Note 2 breaks in front jeans pocket:

http://www.talkandroid.org/viewtopic.php?t=648762&p=5739543#.VCoDfUpdX-Q


HTC One, back pocket, you guessed it:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295276&page=3


Xperia broke in my pocket, something is wrong with this phone:

http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z-ZL-ZR/Screen-broke-when-i-had-the-phone-in-my-pocket/td-p/317984


Galaxy S3 breaks in pocket, Samsung says it was "improper handling":

http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/38170?tstart=0



I could go on (and on and on and on), but I think it's safe to say that keeping your phone in your pocket is positively acknowledged to be a decent way to break the damned thing - no matter what phone it is. The iPhone is - obviously - no exception; except that apparently it might bend slightly instead of cracking the screen.
 

shortcut3d

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Aug 24, 2011
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Only if I could up vote for each link you researched.

Great post!

The replies to this thread should be fun.
 

jpeg42

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I don't get it. Screens have always cracked in pockets. This is not new and is absolutely not the current issue. So calling out android phones for this is silly when it is not at all unique to a phone brand or OS:

Google "Iphone screen cracked pocket" About 1,010,000 results (0.39 seconds)

Edit: Saw the end of your post. I apologize for responding like I did. Good to call out all phones (even if it is rather obvious, so I am still not sure the point :) )
 

JoeTomasone

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Good to call out all phones (even if it is rather obvious, so I am still not sure the point :) )

Because the latest argument is that the iPhone should be able to withstand being carried in a pocket. The person I quoted said that this has been "normal" for over a decade. My contention is that no, it's not "normal", and here are some other phones that obviously are best not kept in pockets either - a fact that I suspect a lot of Android fanboys are conveniently forgetting these days in their haste to make the iPhone seem to be so comparatively delicate.
 

bmt134

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Dec 6, 2012
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That's a lot of useless research you did there. A bunch of isolated incidents compared to an inherent design flaw found in every single iPhone 6+ from poor engineering and cheap materials.


People are really grasping at straws now to justify their purchase. :apple:
 

JoeTomasone

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That's a lot of useless research you did there. A bunch of isolated incidents compared to an inherent design flaw found in every single iPhone 6+ from poor engineering and cheap materials.


People are really grasping at straws now to justify their purchase. :apple:


If you read some of the threads I posted, you'll see that they are far from isolated. However, the point wasn't to document incidents; indeed, some of the links don't relate the story of a broken phone. The idea was to demonstrate that before the iPhone 6 came along, that carrying a phone in your pocket wasn't considered the best idea - a fact backed by user experiences ("I broke my phone in my pocket"), manufacturer recommendations ("Don't do it!") and repair facilities.

I don't need this post to justify my purchase since I don't carry my phone in my pocket. You know why I don't? It's not a great idea. That's the point, essentially, of this post. I just find it interesting that everyone is claiming that the iPhone 6 *should* be more resilient when subjected to force in pockets when clearly the same dangers await several other types of phone.

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As someone who knows bugger-all about the non-Apple phone market, can I ask: are all the phones listed 'oversized'?


Not all. The Galaxy Note is. The S3, S4, and S5 are roughly the size of the regular iPhone 6, if memory serves.
 

Erasmus

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That's a lot of useless research you did there.

That's opinion.

A bunch of isolated incidents...

That's hypocritical.

...compared to an inherent design flaw...

That's baseless.

...found in every single iPhone 6+...

That's a non sequitur.

...from poor engineering...

Opinion again.

...and cheap materials.

That's an outright lie. Aluminium and titanium are not cheap materials.

People are really grasping at straws now to justify their purchase. :apple:

And hypocritical again.

You should win an award.
 

ZBoater

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You come here with your facts and logic and stuff trying to cut through the MacRumors reality distortion field. You are wanting to rain on the Bendgate parade. Why do you do this? If people are wanting to irrationally be miserable and rail against Apple, we should just let them self destruct. It's not like anyone really cares what they think. I mean Apple keeps breaking their own sales records. Every. Single. Launch.

Haters are gonna hate.
 

bmt134

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Dec 6, 2012
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That's opinion.



That's hypocritical.



That's baseless.



That's a non sequitur.



Opinion again.



That's an outright lie. Aluminium and titanium are not cheap materials.



And hypocritical again.

You should win an award.

More straws being grasped. Is there an award for most straws grasped?

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If you read some of the threads I posted, you'll see that they are far from isolated. However, the point wasn't to document incidents; indeed, some of the links don't relate the story of a broken phone. The idea was to demonstrate that before the iPhone 6 came along, that carrying a phone in your pocket wasn't considered the best idea - a fact backed by user experiences ("I broke my phone in my pocket"), manufacturer recommendations ("Don't do it!") and repair facilities.

I don't need this post to justify my purchase since I don't carry my phone in my pocket. You know why I don't? It's not a great idea. That's the point, essentially, of this post. I just find it interesting that everyone is claiming that the iPhone 6 *should* be more resilient when subjected to force in pockets when clearly the same dangers await several other types of phone.

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Not all. The Galaxy Note is. The S3, S4, and S5 are roughly the size of the regular iPhone 6, if memory serves.
Again isolated incidents versus inherent flaw.
 

FriednTested

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Jan 13, 2014
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Great post mate... But, you think this will stop the Samsung paid trolls and the duffers from posting ****...? Nope... Hard luck...
 

mojolicious

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Not all. The Galaxy Note is. The S3, S4, and S5 are roughly the size of the regular iPhone 6, if memory serves.
From my iPhone-o-centric position the iP6 is approaching oversized :)

Basically the bigger the phone the greater the risk of sustaining damage from seemingly innocuous 'storage'. No manufacturer is willing to produce a more rugged mass-market phone that's perceptibly thicker / heavier than its competitors, so really it's down to the purchaser to provide an appropriate level of protection via a case.

There's definitely an education issue, though. People are buying iP6s in the expectation that they can be (mis)treated the same way as an iP3/4/5, which (even if one discounts the possibility of Bendgate being 'a thing', which I'm not yet prepared to do) is patently not the case with larger phones.
 

Erasmus

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More straws being grasped. Is there an award for most straws grasped?

Hardly. All the real numbers are on the side of there not being a problem. All the Bend-gaters have is anecdotal evidence.

And I don't even own the phone.
 

aevelasquez

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If you read some of the threads I posted, you'll see that they are far from isolated. However, the point wasn't to document incidents; indeed, some of the links don't relate the story of a broken phone. The idea was to demonstrate that before the iPhone 6 came along, that carrying a phone in your pocket wasn't considered the best idea - a fact backed by user experiences ("I broke my phone in my pocket"), manufacturer recommendations ("Don't do it!") and repair facilities.

I don't need this post to justify my purchase since I don't carry my phone in my pocket. You know why I don't? It's not a great idea. That's the point, essentially, of this post. I just find it interesting that everyone is claiming that the iPhone 6 *should* be more resilient when subjected to force in pockets when clearly the same dangers await several other types of phone.


Do you mean any pants pocket in general or are you exclusively referring to the back pocket? Where do you carry your phone?

I haven't gotten mine yet and don't want to break my phone or expose it to the possibility or being damaged while carried/stored.
 

ARH1956

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That's a lot of useless research you did there. A bunch of isolated incidents compared to an inherent design flaw found in every single iPhone 6+ from poor engineering and cheap materials.


People are really grasping at straws now to justify their purchase. :apple:
You seem to be a ninja when it comes to grasping at straws, I'll give you that.
 

JoeTomasone

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Do you mean any pants pocket in general or are you exclusively referring to the back pocket? Where do you carry your phone?

I haven't gotten mine yet and don't want to break my phone or expose it to the possibility or being damaged while carried/stored.

Well, it would seem through both logic and user experience that the back pocket is the biggest offender...

I keep my phone in a belt pouch. I have never carried my phone in a pocket, going back as far as I can remember.
 

617aircav

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Well, it would seem through both logic and user experience that the back pocket is the biggest offender...



I keep my phone in a belt pouch. I have never carried my phone in a pocket, going back as far as I can remember.


The back pocket is not the offender. I have mine in the back pocket a lot. The offense is sitting on it while it's in the back pocket. I take mine out.
 

bandrews

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Good work. My iPhone is still not bent after being in my front pocket whilst harvesting potatoes.

I, however, am broken. I've just gone and given myself a hernia. Can I appeal to someone for an inguinal canal refund or at the very least an exchange?
 

T5BRICK

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Aug 3, 2006
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That's a lot of useless research you did there. A bunch of isolated incidents compared to an inherent design flaw found in every single iPhone 6+ from poor engineering and cheap materials.


People are really grasping at straws now to justify their purchase. :apple:

I came here for this. :rolleyes:

There is no "inherent design flaw" in the iPhone 6 or 6 plus. Aluminum isn't a cheap material. As someone else pointed out, you're making baseless claims with a few isolated incidents used as "proof" to back it them up.

No, I don't own an iPhone 6 or 6 plus. Currently I've got an iPhone 5s. My last phone was an HTC One(M7), which I dropped and shattered the screen. Totally my own fault. I've also broken the screen on an iPhone before, which was also my fault. I'm not trying to blame someone else for my mistakes.
 

Bahroo

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Jul 21, 2012
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I ran across this quote in another post:



So I started wondering what people were saying about keeping a phone in their pocket and what happened when they did BEFORE the iPhone 6 came out. Turns out that keeping a phone in your pocket hasn't always been rainbows and unicorns...



Galaxy S: Broke camera lens, takes great pains to say it wasn't in his back pocket, but insinuates that it could potentially break while in front pocket if he sits:

http://www.samsunggalaxysforum.com/samsung-galaxys-general-discussion/just-found-out-back-camera-lens-cover-cracked!!/


Nexus 4: "what's annoying is that the screen broke while in my pocket, I didn't drop it" (post #5)

https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/just-cracked-my-screen-fml.62129/


Galaxy S3, screen cracked in pocket:

https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/777720?tstart=0


Galaxy Note review, scared to put it in pocket for fear it would break:

http://www.powercx.com/?p=2664


Article entitled "Nexus One Shouldn’t Go In Your Pocket", has quote from HTC saying, “Putting a phone in a tight pair of jeans and sitting down would usually cause the kind of damage, People sometimes forget that they don’t go in pockets.”

http://phandroid.com/2010/03/05/nexus-one-shouldnt-go-in-your-pocket/


Nexus 4's cracking in pocket. "Broke mine by falling asleep on the couch with it in my front pocket.". "same happened to mine."

http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-4-cracked-back-glass-135237/


LG Intuition broke in pocket (post #21):

http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon-lg-intuition/206591-apparently-im-only-crazy-person-so-far.html


Samsung Epic, not meant for tight pants or pockets (post #7):

http://forums.androidcentral.com/sprint-epic-4g/44359-internal-screen-cracked.html


Nexus 7, broke in back pocket (post #23):

http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-7-tablet-2012/194197-oops-dropped-cracked-nexus-7-screen-sol.html


"Local repair center" says that cracked screen could be caused by putting Galaxy S4 in rear pocket and sitting (post #15):

http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s4/305142-brand-new-galaxy-s4-broken-no-reason.html


Nexus breaks in pocket. One commenter (post #7) says "Given the additional length of the Nexus, it seems reasonable that there would be more pressure created to flex the phone.":

http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon-galaxy-nexus/144312-screen-my-nexus-cracked-need-advice.html


Epic 4G cracks in back pocket (post #15):

http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s3/178630-gorilla-glass-2-pos.html


S4 cracked while in cargo pocket (post #3):

http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...4-venting-lcd-cracked-no-apparent-reason.html


Nexus 7 cracks in cargo pants pocket:

http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-7-tablet-2013/336169-cracked-screen-but-i-didnt-drop-smash-warning.html


Galaxy S4: I'd keep it out of your back pocket.. (post #2):

http://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/forums/forumtopicpage/board-id/Android/thread-id/19121


"Galaxy S4 cracked in my jeans front pocket, and there is a wide range of evidence that this is a known problem":

http://support.t-mobile.com/message/276473


Galaxy S4 cracked in front jeans pocket:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2287882


Galaxy Note cracked in back pocket. Commenter says to NEVER have a smart phone in your back pocket!

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1977366


Don't keep your phone in your back pocket, say these folks:

http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s5/843462-s5-back-pocket-phone.html


Carrying Note 3 in pocket, not a good idea:

http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-3/340142-galaxy-note-3-durability.html


Xperia X breaks in pocket:

http://forums.meteor.ie/t5/Sony/Xperia-Z-broken-screen-in-my-pocket/td-p/115734


Xperia X1 cracks in pocket:

http://hellopeter.com/sony-ericsson/complaints/sony-xperia-z1-compact-cracked-in-pocket-1409750


LG G2 cracked in back pocket when sat on:

https://www.facebook.com/LGUSAMobile/posts/642669755768273


2 LG G2s crack in pockets (post 7 & 8), commenter says carrying in back pocket will definitely crack the screen (post 13):

https://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/155429


Motorola Q screen cracks in pocket:

http://www.droidforums.net/threads/cracked-screen-11-day-old-phone-help.89976/


Unspecified Windows phone cracks in pocket:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/winphone/forum/wp8-wpnetwork/cracked-screen-and-cannot-unlock-the-phone-to-use/77737b38-c8fc-404a-9598-9991f20a1acf


Nexus 4 breaks in back pocket:

http://www.reddit.com/r/nexus4/comments/1yxi4v/help_cracked_screen_cant_unlock_phone_now/


I feel uncomfortable when I sit with my phone in my pocket, and my friend's broke:

https://stonybrook.digication.com/sion_kim/Trend_that_is_interesting_to_me1


HTC One X, back pocket, sat, cracked:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1913188


Galaxy Note 2 breaks in front jeans pocket:

http://www.talkandroid.org/viewtopic.php?t=648762&p=5739543#.VCoDfUpdX-Q


HTC One, back pocket, you guessed it:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295276&page=3


Xperia broke in my pocket, something is wrong with this phone:

http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z-ZL-ZR/Screen-broke-when-i-had-the-phone-in-my-pocket/td-p/317984


Galaxy S3 breaks in pocket, Samsung says it was "improper handling":

http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/38170?tstart=0



I could go on (and on and on and on), but I think it's safe to say that keeping your phone in your pocket is positively acknowledged to be a decent way to break the damned thing - no matter what phone it is. The iPhone is - obviously - no exception; except that apparently it might bend slightly instead of cracking the screen.

No **** this will occur if you sit on your phones, its like when it comes to Android fanboys and anyone who hates Apple its like they lose all common sense when they talk about Apple.

Add some more links of people bending their Htc m8's, bent Galaxy S4's etc.

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That's a lot of useless research you did there. A bunch of isolated incidents compared to an inherent design flaw found in every single iPhone 6+ from poor engineering and cheap materials.


People are really grasping at straws now to justify their purchase. :apple:

But there is SO much more posts and incidents then what OP posted, sounds and seems like the competition has more issues with their devices then Apple does
 
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