Other What do thieves do with a stolen iPhone?

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  1. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    Basically this. Selling stolen iPhones is becoming nearly impossible in some aspects today, but for parts, that easily can generate a small profit, because you always have those who are looking for specific iPhone parts. And why not use a safer alternative when you’re stealing a phone, to dissect it and sell the parts to a large mass audience online, where this is quite a demand.

    And of course, some of these stolen phones are being shipped overseas as well versus being sold locally.
     
  2. drmeatball macrumors member

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    About a week after my 256gb 7+ was stolen it phoned home from Albania (I’m just outside Baltimore). iCloud locked, find my phone enabled, fingerprint, changed all my passwords, etc etc. Don't think any of that stuff was ever circumvented but I did experience a massive amount of phishing and social engineering attempts on my iCloud account to get the password.
     
  3. Doctor Q thread starter Administrator

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    How did they know what your iCloud account was?
     
  4. Tofupunch macrumors regular

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    Which brings up an interesting question: what ARE the proper steps to take when one's phone is stolen? And if it involves signing into iCloud or whatever to disable the phone (which I wouldn't know how to do) would you have to wait to get to your computer? Honest question. Sorry if it is basic.
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    When you say your iCloud password, do you mean your Apple ID password?
     
  5. mebehere macrumors 6502

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    I do wish there was a feature that requires Face ID, Touch ID or passcode to turn the phone off. That way you could keep tracking a stolen phone for longer in case they just turn it off.

    I didn’t read the whole thread so sorry if this was mentioned.
     
  6. drmeatball macrumors member

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    No idea but it wouldn’t be hard to get, they’ve got my phone number, probably just a google search. They also had the SIM card, who knows what’s on those things.
     
  7. MisterSavage macrumors 65816

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    Kudos to you and your wife for helping her!
     
  8. Weaselboy, Aug 15, 2019
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    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201472

    This link will walk you through it. Just go to https://icloud.com/find and login with your iCloud account and lock it down. You can do this from somebody else's computer and you do not need to enter the two-factor ID to get in.
     
  9. AppleHaterLover macrumors 68000

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    Since Apple charges $600 for a screen replacement these days, a stolen iPhone is worth at least $300 - and you can still use the other stuff (battery, camera, etc.). That's useful exactly in places like Albania.
     
  10. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    Just a wild guess, and you certainly wouldn’t be the first, I suspect that your password is likely the same password that you use for other accounts. It’s usually the first red flag when someone is able to access certain accounts, in your case, someone clearly knew your iCloud password or had access to it before your iPhone even was even stolen.
     
  11. Banglazed macrumors demi-god

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    What he was saying is true, you’ll will get phishing and social engineering attempts to gain iCloud password to remove the device from FMI. I experienced this first hand as well. If the thief knows the iCloud password, he would’ve removed it and activate the stolen device. However, the owner would receive a two-factor prompt (if enabled) if the thief knows the right password. There are services to find iCloud email linked to any iPhone via serial or IMEI through unlock third-party services.
     
  12. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    Sure. As I mentioned, the OP’s password was already known either prior to or somewhere where the iPhone was stolen. But my point being, never use the same password for multiple accounts, it just leaves the doors open for infiltration of someone’s privacy/info. [FTR, I’m not saying the OP was using the same password, but this has happened multiple times in the past with other threads where this was the exact same case.]
     
  13. Doctor Q thread starter Administrator

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    Right, so they can log into iCloud as you.
    That answers my question, although now I wonder where those services get their data.
     
  14. Elitegate macrumors regular

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    They just sell it to another person that is unaware of the Activation Lock. Which is why there are so many threads on the internet of someone stating "I bought an iPhone and it's activation locked how to get past it i bought it..."

    Also sometimes thiefs get hold of an iPhone and it hasn't been wiped yet and when they get hold of a phone number or mail address related to the phone they send the owner a message pretending to be Apple Support and they list an iPhone they found with the right model and color and they link a website in the text that looks like an Apple webpage where you would enter your Apple ID. So people think Apple reached out to them and they help them to get their phone back. Some people actually believe it and once the thiefs have your Apple ID they will log onto iCloud to disable Find my iPhone and so they get past Activation Lock and can then wipe the phone to sell it or just to use it for themselves. Many are actually foolish enough to think it's actually Apple...
     
  15. donawalt macrumors 6502

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    @drmeatball What do you mean by "it phoned home" - it did this automatically? I am not familiar with this. Thanks!
     
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    https://support.apple.com/kb/PH2700?locale=en_US

    If you put the device in "lost mode" the next time the phone is able to get online, it will send you a notice telling you so and the location.
     
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    this is a feature that I miss coming from Samsung devices.
     
  19. I7guy macrumors Core

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    There is a new feature in ios 13 that allows this. The ios 13 roundup discusses it in more detail.
     
  20. AppleHaterLover macrumors 68000

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    Can't you just like force reboot the phone and render this moot?
     
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    Never understood why the Apple Watch never had the “Find My iPhone.” Thought for sure the new “Find My” app would’ve made its way to the Apple Watch but still nothing. Would be great to be able to locate or at the very least, be able wipe your iPhone directly from your wrist. Not always will there be bystanders around willing to help and not everyone carries around a MacBook or iPad everywhere they go.
     
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    iPhone theft is, apparently, also very wide-spread on the streets of London, according to my friends living there. What if thieves just put a stolen iPhone in a DFU mode and restore it as new? Obviously, they will lose all the data on it in the process, but do they really care? Will this work?
     

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