Camden is worse
Philly is having a bit of a murder spree these days. Heard a shootout a week ago at about 3:00AM about 12 blocks up from me
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what do you consider the most dangerous american city?
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Camden is worse
Philly is having a bit of a murder spree these days. Heard a shootout a week ago at about 3:00AM about 12 blocks up from me
Wow I'm surpised no one's made any mention of Oakland, CA. I mean nowadays most of it's prettty good, and I'm sure there are other cities that are far worse, but there are definitely still significant chunks of Oakland that you really don't want to be walking around in.
when i mention oakland or san fransico, both in my neck of the woods, and full of nightly news reports of violence and mayhem on ktvu channel 2, i always get corrected by out of state transplants who mention the cities i mentioned on the first post who say:
"heck, oakland has nothing on detroit, or sf is paradise compared to boston", or other such statements which are designed to downplay the real crime that is in the bay area
while the sf bay area may not top any lists for crime compared to the cities i always hear about nationally and most of the ones i see on this thread, in terms of per capita crime, there is a ton of crime for an area which has by far the highest per capita income with marin county, walnut creek, mountain view, cupertino, and many other rich cities within a short distance of san jose, san francisco, and oakland which bring up the income and support the already high paying jobs in those three major northern california cities (sj, sf, and oakland)
some cities to the far north are depressed economically, and have low per capita income, but have very little crime to speak about
one could live in a very expensive ghetto in sf and always be looking over their shoulder at night
i wonder if many other major american cities have nice sections with high priced real estate but lots of crime
I'm quite sure I know "why", but as a non-American, when I think dangerous American cities, these are the ones I think of:
Detroit
Compton (I know it's not "really" a city)
LA in general
Oakland
Washington DC
Miami
Newark, NJ
Atlanta
New York (although it's different now, supposedly)
It'll be crime that's never reported.
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Detroit
Compton (I know it's not "really" a city)
LA in general
Oakland
Washington DC
Miami
Newark, NJ
Atlanta
New York (although it's different now, supposedly)
It'll be crime that's never reported.
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honestly, chicago... i live very close. kinda dangerous, if you ask me.
so much going on, so little time, i guess. everyone is always in a hurry.
i guess that's the city life.
so much going on, so little time, i guess. everyone is always in a hurry.
i guess that's the city life.
Flint is pretty bad. I know it's not a big city, but it's still pretty bad.
Flint vs. Detroit
Flint vs. Chicago
Flint vs. LA
You get the idea.
Flint vs. Detroit
Flint vs. Chicago
Flint vs. LA
You get the idea.
You've lived in STL and Memphis? That's wild - I relatively recently moved to STL from Memphis
Yep, my wife's a native Memphian. I was a yankee transplant while we lived there, but I really did like it.You've lived in STL and Memphis? That's wild - I relatively recently moved to STL from Memphis
Haha at thinking Norfolk is one of the most dangerous cities in the U.S., i use to live there, of course some parts are noy good, but its pretty farfetched to consider it one of the worst in the U.S, Newport News is worse then that, i mean it's nickname is BADNEWS, Virginia
Sounds like Manhattan in a nutshell. But that said, I went to grad school there and never felt afraid. I think all cities have their good and bad sections. Or maybe not... perhaps this thread is really asking which cities have no good sections at all?
There is no good section of Camden.
Newark, on the other hand, has the wonderful Ironbound District where you can wander the streets at 2am, stuffed full of delicious Portuguese food, and be safe. There are also still plenty of single family homes in that town, a thriving business district, and colleges.Sounds like Manhattan in a nutshell. But that said, I went to grad school there and never felt afraid. I think all cities have their good and bad sections. Or maybe not... perhaps this thread is really asking which cities have no good sections at all?
There is no good section of Camden.
when i was younger i considered moving out of the small town i am in after i finished college and hit some big city with better opportunities...but i never did but thought about this thread to see how big cities measure up now in crime, or perception of crime
in those many years many of the cities mentioned here that have bad crime rates today were prolly much safer in the early 90s
my brother lived in a tiny condo in the nice section of san diego but when he got a girlfriend and took on two large dogs, they had to get a big place...so without spending more money their only option when they moved to norfolk was to live in a more affordable, yet trashed out section of town
virginia city, or is that virginia beach (something like that) near norfolk would have been very nice, but they could not afford a big place there so they went with what they could afford in cheaper section of norfolk which makes even the toughest section of san diego look like paradise
and i remember visiting downtown san diego, low numbered streets, in the early 80s, and that scared me silly...so i certainly would not like camden then
i wanted then what was impossible, a good job in a large city with very little crime rate...i guess that would disqualify any american city
i lived in london and i can't think of any american counterparts as far as size and basically low crime rate by comparison...but i think the scarcity of handguns has a lot to do with it...same goes with tokyo
over the years, from when i was a kid until now, i would always find someone who lived there or was born there that had something terrible to say about it (and other cities around washington dc, including dc of course)...thus it made my list of places i heard about when it came to bad cities crime-wise, that's all
two california cities that make the top of the list as great places to live are salinas and san jose, and only a few places rank better in the big city category of 50,000 people or more...but many of us here in northern california have plenty of bad crime stories about both salinas and san jose
alexandria is the same size as salinas, roughly, and they are prolly safe compared to some other cities of that size, but i would feel safer in san francisco than in salinas any day of the week
and san francisco seems far safer than san jose
i think the "streets of san francisco", the tv show with all the shootouts and cars catching air is amazingly funny...i think it would take a ramp to get cars flying that high
I haven't really been to that many cities, only ones around where I live, but from where I have been I don't feel safe at all in Los Angeles, CA and some parts of San Diego, CA.
I don't know, in my experience Detroit isn't all that bad. I mean, the city's reputation was slaughtered during and after the Race Riots and the White Flight, but that was almost 40 years ago now.
The downtown areas are getting better and certainly the metro area isn't bad, unlike one poster said. I mean, right next to Wayne County (Detroit's county) you have Oakland County, which I believe is the 4th richest county in the US. Plus my hometown, about 20 minutes outside of Detroit proper was voted one of the 10 safest cities in America for its population.
Personally, the cities I felt least safe in were LA, and Miami.
Every city has its bad parts, but there are a lot of unfair stigmas about certain places.
The downtown areas are getting better and certainly the metro area isn't bad, unlike one poster said. I mean, right next to Wayne County (Detroit's county) you have Oakland County, which I believe is the 4th richest county in the US. Plus my hometown, about 20 minutes outside of Detroit proper was voted one of the 10 safest cities in America for its population.
Personally, the cities I felt least safe in were LA, and Miami.
Every city has its bad parts, but there are a lot of unfair stigmas about certain places.
Not to distract, but I can vouch for the fact that Mill Valley (& Tiburon) and Palo Alto (NOT East Palo Alto) are pretty nice places.
so now there's a vote for detroit saying it's not bad, along with a couple for alexandria saying that city is not bad
so i go on the net, like sites like area connect, then i do find comparing detroit, alexandria, and vs. the usa, detroit has a lower theft rate than the us average (2005 statistics) but led in all other crimes among the two cities and national average, alexandria led in robbery among the three, but had lower crimes rates than detroit and the national average on all other forms of crime
so compared to the usa in general, alexandria or detroit were not unaminously the best or worst in crime in general in every category, but if i spend enough time looking, i think i can find a city that has lower crime rates in every category vs. the us national average, and a city that has higher crime rates in every category vs. the national average
so contrary to my beliefs, neither detroit nor alexandria are the scary places i thought they were if the internet is correct reporting various crimes vs. the us national average
no love for Baltimore?
Baltimore. It's always exciting to see if they can finally get back to one murder a day. The last couple of years that I lived there, we would alsy start strong (>1/day for the first month or two) but then tail off a little. No sense of accomplishment in that town...
Sadly though this is changing - gun crime in the UK is starting to rise - Manchester, Nottingham, London are a few of the hotspots. Though there are nowhere near the same numbers of guns as you have Stateside, serious crimes like knife attacks also seem to be on the rise.
Yeah, almost got killed twice in Philadelphia, once at the Galleria and the other time at Tasker St.