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What do you want to see in Logic 10?

MDOTDASUPA said:
Here are a list of features i hope will be considered for logic 10:

1. A user interface overhaul
2. A massive core audio upgrade
3. A major improvement on audio & instrument editing features, especially for editing and creating custom drum sounds etc etc!!!
4. Far superior automation & panning features
5. Multiple mixer screen views and options especially waveform view in the metering aspect
6. Deeper range of color options to color code project/session data
7. More customizable options for the logic user interface like interface skins or ways of using custom gfx like logo's and custom color schemes to make ones logic user interface more unique!!!
8. More consistent and useful updates that add new features as well as improving older ones!!!

Btw, i have a good feeling they'll officially name the 10th edition of logic "logic x"!!!
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here are some examples and suggestions that would fill your list of features you are asking for that would refine and re-affirm Logic Pro as a professional audio application rather than the toy it is now or becoming garageband pro on steroids as it is now:

Scope Modular Glitch Drum Loop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAXnjcjZRkM

Sonic Core Scope Modular Madness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zbjXpxUlso&feature=related

The Scope Glitch Machine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3cpvOJZsK8&feature=related

Scope Modular synthesizer pad tutorial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl8PFbT6iv0&feature=related

"scope FTW! i had it, then i sold it, guess what there is nothing new that is better."

Oddskool Creamware Scope Modular patch 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03ZD2LOeLvM&feature=related

Soniccore Scope XITE-1 - First Mastering Test
(looks like Soniccore Scope XITE-1 is sequenced with Ableton Live one of the monitors in the video here...very cool technology)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZPNYeOmQgM

SonicCore Xite-1 at NAMM, January, 2009
http://vimeo.com/2951069

Sonic Core SCOPE XITE-1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a6G8NxCMho&NR=1
 
drumsrok94 said:
I want

1. Completely redesigned and improved amp designer with good high gain and lots of amps like engls, more marshalls, and more mesa boogies as well as better pedals.

2. More extensive sample library for ultrabeat

3. Sampled drum software instrument similar to SSD or SD2 (except better because apple has the means)

4. Vinyl scratch instrument or preset in esx24

5. New synthesizers, i wouldnt mind seeing a minimoog impersonator

6. no more "system overload" error

7. more consistant and actually useful updates that add new features as well as improving old ones.

8. More master track presets as well as more presets for plugins and instruments in general to minimize time wasted tweaking

Thats all I can think of for now. The only really good improvements in 9 was 64 bit mode and flex time. Amp designer and Pedalboard suck and I felt like they could have added a lot more. No disrespect to apple because Logic is easily the best DAW but 9 still left a lot to be desired. I want Logic 10 to have plugins and software instruments that make it so that one doesnt have to go out and spend more money on getting ones that suit their purposes
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as far as new a minimoog impersonator take a look at CREAMWARE Minimax ASB at this link. this needs to be available in Logic Pro:

"The CreamWare Minimax ASB is arguably the best Minimoog emulation available. Its sound is undeniably authentic, and the feel of its controls is closer to the original than any software-based virtual Minimoog."

http://emusician.com/elecinstruments/emusic_creamwareminimax_asb/

Minimoog vs. Minimax ASB on youtube
http://www.gearspace.com/board/elec...n/335247-minimoog-vs-minimax-asb-youtube.html
 
djwhiterabbit said:
as far as new a minimoog impersonator take a look at CREAMWARE Minimax ASB at this link. this needs to be available in Logic Pro:

"The CreamWare Minimax ASB is arguably the best Minimoog emulation available. Its sound is undeniably authentic, and the feel of its controls is closer to the original than any software-based virtual Minimoog."

http://emusician.com/elecinstruments/emusic_creamwareminimax_asb/

Minimoog vs. Minimax ASB on youtube
http://www.gearspace.com/board/elec...n/335247-minimoog-vs-minimax-asb-youtube.html
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Isn't that thing a hardware synth? I don't really see what's the big advantage of it over a softsynth version. That thing is 900$ too, you're almost approaching the price of the real thing. Or actually, this http://www.moogmusic.com/littlephatty/?section=product&product_id=21398 is pretty close, all analog signal path too. 2osc and a true moog filter. 50$ cheaper too.

Closer to the OP's question, check the gforce minimonsta, love it.
 
paolo- said:
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Ableton live - like way to assign parameters to contolers. I haven't found a way to do it yet.
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CMD+L brings up the 'learn' window. That should give you what you're looking for!
 
a few things I'd like to see

1. A vastly improved arpediator

2. A help menu that shows you different ways to do the same thing

3. Some serious improvements in the EXS24 library and while they're at it the EXS24 could use an update. There's a reason I use Kontakt 4 most of the time.

4. Sculpture has a very unique sound but it's often very very bright. Needs a mellow switch or something.

5. More selection in the "Bass Amp" catagory.

6. A way of adding user-created channel strips to pre-existing logic folders from the menu itself.
 
I would like there to be continued and improved performance with Propellerhead software (Reason & Record).
 
-I personally love the waveform editing in ProTools and would like to see Logic gain some more sophisticated editing tools.

-Better TouchOSC compatibility

-Better video support, like Live or Protools

-Get rid of that damn "System Overload" error

-Max for Logic.
 
So far I just wish the Arpegiator was integrated into all Midi tracks and you can turn it on or off as you wish, instead of the gruesome way it is now were you have to create an environment and do all kinds of acrobatics..could be better.. everything else seems fine to me...well maybe the Vocoder implementation could be better too....!
 
I just want a plain old drum machine with lots of pro kits. UB tries to do too much, and uses the budget GB stuff.
 
josh2007 said:
I just want a plain old drum machine with lots of pro kits. UB tries to do too much, and uses the budget GB stuff.
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I'd rather Apple focus on being a more professional solid product and make the experience better for the user and leave that specialized stuff for 3rd parties. Then you can choose the one that suits you best. Less bugs, slicker work environment and refine editing like they did w/ Flex Time.

I chose Addictive Drums but there's also Abbey Road, Superior Drummer, EZ Drummer, BFD, SSD, Ocean Park etc. Why bother putting resourses into competing w/ them?

#1 request = make the audio editing process as effective as ProTools.
 
Logic seems in that same Emagic mode of handling audio that Cubase is, very "sequencer" like in that its seems focused around MIDI and then had audio added to it...and in all fairness has improved significantly over the years. However my experience w/ PT has always been that it was focused on audio first and only added MIDI to compete w/ the others (they had huge pressure on them from their user base apparently).

In PT you don't have to go into the sample editor whereas you can do all the same functions right there in the main work space via Audiosuite. Its just one less step and handles it better in my experience.

PT has superior automation imo, more refined control over it and again quicker access. This is a minor issue but its noticeable to me. Its been awhile since I've used PT (been on Logic) so perhaps I'm romanticizing it a bit but I recall liking the workflow better. Not slagging Logic just trying to be objective.
 
MowingDevil said:
Logic seems in that same Emagic mode of handling audio that Cubase is, very "sequencer" like in that its seems focused around MIDI and then had audio added to it...and in all fairness has improved significantly over the years. However my experience w/ PT has always been that it was focused on audio first and only added MIDI to compete w/ the others (they had huge pressure on them from their user base apparently).
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Except that the sample editing in PT happens in the Arrange window, and not in a separate sample editor (which some people prefer), I still wonder which specific things peopl think of when they say that audio editing is better in PT.

I don't think the fact that Emagic/C-Lab started out as a company making MIDI sequencers matters any more than the fact that Avid/Digidesign started out as a company making sound chips for drum machines.

And I'm not saying that audio editing in Logic can't be better - it's only that "audio editing in PT is better" has become some kind of cliche which sometimes are posted without any concrete examples. This makes me wonder if audio editing in PT actually is any better than it is in Logic after Logic 9 came out.
 
dLight said:
Except that the sample editing in PT happens in the Arrange window, and not in a separate sample editor (which some people prefer), I still wonder which specific things peopl think of when they say that audio editing is better in PT.

I don't think the fact that Emagic/C-Lab started out as a company making MIDI sequencers matters any more than the fact that Avid/Digidesign started out as a company making sound chips for drum machines.

And I'm not saying that audio editing in Logic can't be better - it's only that "audio editing in PT is better" has become some kind of cliche which sometimes are posted without any concrete examples. This makes me wonder if audio editing in PT actually is any better than it is in Logic after Logic 9 came out.
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Yes, by Audiosuite I was referring to the "arrange" window. I do think it matters that Logic/Cubase began as MIDI sequencers because thats *why* you end up in a "sample editor" window instead of doing the editing in the arrange window. If people prefer the separate window then all the power to them. For me I don't see the point and would rather work quicker while in the arrange work space.

I used to do all my MIDI in Cubase, port to Finale if I needed notation/score and all my audio in ProTools. MIDI was far superior in Cubase & audio in PT. I don't give a hoot what others say and I'm not jumping on any bandwagon. Its just my preference that I enjoyed the audio workflow more in PT (even a version from 10yrs ago) and still do (even though I don't use it presently). Logic has improved dramatically in the audio department, so much so that I don't feel the need to run 2 DAWs. Still doesn't mean there's not room for improvement although it is subjective. You'd think at this year Logic would be light years ahead of PT's older versions but its not. I have no idea how PT9 stacks up against Logic 9 but my friend has it so I'll check it out & compare. Perhaps if Logic was more a priority for Apple (or they could work better w/ the developers-still the Emagic crew believe it or not) then we'd have a more cutting edge program. As it is, its more a different choice than Cubase or ProTools but not necessarily leading the pack like Apple is in other areas. That said I switched over from both those programs to Logic so they're obviously doing something right. Bang for the buck its hard to beat.
 
Total nightmare...although sadly there is a grain of truth to that. There's more & more programs that auto-tune, provide completed drums/percussion/melody lines...even provide completed generic film scores at the touch of a single key. The elimination of the MacBook line so that everyone has a "Pro" machine, phasing out FireWire (although temporarily) in some machines & labelling entry level laptops (descended from the iBook line) as 'Pro'.
 
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MowingDevil said:
Total nightmare...although sadly there is a grain of truth to that. There's more & more programs that auto-tune, provide completed drums/percussion/melody lines...even provide completed generic film scores at the touch of a single key. The elimination of the MacBook line so that everyone has a "Pro" machine, phasing out FireWire (although temporarily) in some machines & labelling entry level laptops (descended from the iBook line) as 'Pro'.
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did you watch to the end of the video? :confused:
 
Logic 10

I want to see more editing options in the sample editor, where you can add effects from the existing library. For example, If I wanted to do a pitch correct on the fly, I can select that area and apply it, and have it automatically create a new file with the effected part. Or they can have that option outside of that in the "region" options. This will of course make it compete with cubase and pro tools.

I also want to see a melodyne style pitch editor ( stated in previous posts ).

I think that they can improve their piano sounds as well, maybe a sound modeling piano instrument, like pianoteq. That would be hot.

They should also improve ultra beat. Where the open hi-hat would sound more natural, kinda like EZdrummer. It doesn't cut off when pressed multiple times. It's interesting how FL Studio figured that out from the get go.

Speaking of which, they should add a drag n' drop beat slicer instrument, and have stutter effects like transfuser.

That's it for now.
 
1.)Reduction of number of tools in the interface

2.)Better and more intuitive setup of multitimbral software instruments (kontakt, etc)

3.)Less focus on cutesy effects and more on a lean, solid, FAST program...Logic is none of these right now. Reaper is. Cubase is. Protools is solid but not lean or fast!

4.)if you're wishing for a better score editor, notation is an entirely different ballgame. It is futile to put *proper* notation and sequencing into one program. For the haters/debaters: try imagining a program that can both sequence and notate a realistic non-robotic performance of, say, Rite of Spring. You'll spend a couple years getting the score and performance to mesh even if the tools were there. For starters, you'd need pitch tracking. For simpler projects in 4/4 and never doing anything more complicated than sixteenth notes, Logic already has what you need. Get Finale or Sibelius if you want to do real notation. It has taken those guys like 20 years to get where they are now (which is nowhere near perfect). Do you really want to wait for Logic to get it right?

5.)Clean up preferences, it's a ratsnest.
 
Looking at what Apple just did to FCPX, anybody think they're gonna do something similar to the next release of Logic?

After all, Logic and FCP are like brothers - both of them are Apple's flagship pro software, just in different markets.

Thoughts? Worries?
 
I'd like to see more attention paid to editing functions, and would like to have the ability to organize my plugins as I see fit. Sure, you can customize your channel strips, but not every session is "one size fits all".
 
rewrite some of the bouncing freezing features

I registered for this forum and posted this message while I was freezing 1 track
It took 10 min to freeze 1 track on a 4 min song. It's slow as hell with external plug-ins. I know external plug-ins slow the process down, but why is it slower than real time? and Why can't Logic realize there is nothing else on this track , but insists of crawling along to the end of the song even if the track to be frozen is only a few bars long?
Also freezing or bouncing a track with no plug-ins goes slow if there other tracks with plug-ins, even if the track in question is soloed.
 
reordering multiple tracks

Another one from my wish list is to be able to select multiple tracks ( i.e. all drum tracks) and move them up or down in the arrange window like in Pro Tools. IT makes it easier to organize your mix and /or he arrangement. As of now I have to grab one track at a time and push it to a new position.. a little tedious in big arrangements.
 
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