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Its definitely one of those things where you think "...only £200? Sure I might never ever see the benefit, but for £200? Bargain!".
Well, I was in that camp originally. The extra money to go up to an M1 Max wasn't a big deal to me so I did it even though I wasn't sure if I needed it. Then I saw all the videos showing the M1 Max being more power hungry so I reversed course and went with an M1 Pro.
 
Just out of curiosity, what's your opinion on my case with all facts exposed? Would you stick with the 14" M1 Pro 10CPU/16GPU or swap it to M1 Max 10CPU/24GPU? As I told you, I made my mind clear, but eager to hear experiences/criticisms
Since your only use for the extra performance capacity would be gaming, and and that's only casual, and you already have a setup for serious gaming: I agree, if the money matters, using the money for something else you'll get more benefit from makes sense to me.
 
Since your only use for the extra performance capacity would be gaming, and and that's only casual, and you already have a setup for serious gaming: I agree, if the money matters, using the money for something else you'll get more benefit from makes sense to me.
I went with the Max 24c as I feel even for programming there is more and more load shifting away from the CPU. GPU was an exclusive for gaming and video processing, but now with ML, it's used more and more. I'm not there yet in my own usage, but I feel it's moving that way and pretty fast (I'm also curious about ML). That +50% perf bump might be useful in a not-so-far future. Also, the price difference with the Pro, once you are at 32GB, is basically nothing (yes, Apple is very good at that game).

Temp & Battery, yes, but only when you push it. So in normal day to day, the difference is really null. I have seen reports of 15 hours of battery life browsing the web with the Max (16 inches). Temp wise people report ~50C (I have the 16 pro 16GB right now and it idle around that as well).

Anyway, I'm switching from my Pro 16GB to a Max 24c 32GB (should be here next week, finger crossed) since that 16GB is not enough, been swapping quite a bit. I personally don't see much going on for the Pro 32GB except for the slight price difference.

I also rarely game (nothing AAA) and I'm sure in the long term I will enjoy that extra GPU power. While the M1 Pro 32GB would be the perfect fonctional machine, that Max 24c is a bit like a little luxury, not needed, but I'm sure I will enjoy it for the years to come.

But I will admit that if I was going with the 14 inches, I would just go the 8c/14c and upgrade it to 32GB and call it a day. If it was available on the 16 that's what I would have been with. I have been compiling code and stuff and it rarely hit all 10 cores.
 
I went with the Max 24c as I feel even for programming there is more and more load shifting away from the CPU. GPU was an exclusive for gaming and video processing, but now with ML, it's used more and more. I'm not there yet in my own usage, but I feel it's moving that way and pretty fast (I'm also curious about ML).
True story, ML is getting big and bigger, but since it's not my work of field, and neither I'm that interested into "testing" now so I passed, but if I was, certainly the extra GPU cores are gonna help for that kind of data crunching. Regarding how important is gonna be ML for the user point-of-view IMHO, I think this path still needs some years to be "standardized" and not needing that amount extra GPU power, at least now, within 5-10 years, we'll see though.
Temp wise people report ~50C (I have the 16 pro 16GB right now and it idle around that as well).
My 14" M1 Pro 10CPU/16GPU idles/performs light tasks at around ~38ºC/44ºC (as seen on Mac Fans Control with an ambient of 21-22ºC) - I'd perform more tests during the weekend, since the unit is practically new and all my other references came from the MBP I had to return, so I'll compare and maybe obtain better data, but is definitely lower than those 50's.
While the M1 Pro 32GB would be the perfect fonctional machine, that Max 24c is a bit like a little luxury, not needed, but I'm sure I will enjoy it for the years to come.

But I will admit that if I was going with the 14 inches, I would just go the 8c/14c and upgrade it to 32GB and call it a day. If it was available on the 16 that's what I would have been with. I have been compiling code and stuff and it rarely hit all 10 cores.
In my case and for my needs, yes, it was also a little "why not 200$ more on a 3000$ purchase?" and "future-proofing" my poor gaming needs for the laptop, so after all, I measured the pros and cons for the 14" form factor, and decided to stick with M1 Pro. The important thing is to be happy with the item purchased and not to feel buyer's remorse. Buy nice or buy twice as they say.

I knew I'd been happy with 24GPU and the extra perks, but knowing I won't be using them on a daily-basis and maybe, just maybe, just barely/close to nothing within some point in the future, that makes me think, when that time arrives, we'll had more advanced chips and my future-proofing was merely an illusion that didn't need to be fulfilled (as opposite with the 32GB RAM that I knew I had to put on)

TBH as I said, I'm dreaming with powerful "MAX" chips in Mac Minis or iMac Pro, or even a "minor" version of Mac Pro ... and the rumours indicate that is likely to happen. Desktop gaming for me is important, and with my current Mac Desktop setup, i'm really happy, hope they accomplish it with their own chips :)
 
My 14" M1 Pro 10CPU/16GPU idles/performs light tasks at around ~38ºC/44ºC (as seen on Mac Fans Control with an ambient of 21-22ºC) - I'd perform more tests during the weekend, since the unit is practically new and all my other references came from the MBP I had to return, so I'll compare and maybe obtain better data, but is definitely lower than those 50's.
Well, I have the 16" M1 Pro 10CPU/16GPU and it idle at 50C. The Max SOC have a power draw of 2 watts at idle, so I guess there is no difference between the Max and Pro under the same load temp wise.
 
Well, I have the 16" M1 Pro 10CPU/16GPU and it idle at 50C. The Max SOC have a power draw of 2 watts at idle, so I guess there is no difference between the Max and Pro under the same load temp wise.

I'm now testing my first cycle of battery after getting it, and I was doing some light/mild web browsing, (forums, news, YouTube with some music and that) installed some apps and also I did some tests for the integrated Mic while recording some music on GarageBand for like 15-20 mins. And here's a shot of the temps after those (mine is 14" btw, and ambient temp is 21.5ºC)

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And here's the battery info

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edit: Activity Monitor was open all the time, I noticed now some spotlightd activity (keyboard was warmish the first 1h30m, now I know why :D) ... so the first days indexing also was being done on the background during this period, since now I'm coding I can feel it's again cold to touch, and the whole unit seems a lil bit colder and battery estimates are a lil bit better, not seeing spotlight eating that many resources, 2h usage and just 11% drain. Makes me a total personal estimate close to 14h, it's just superb!
 
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This would be more memory speed. Memory bandwidth is the number of lanes you have.
I meant to highlight how many things each can carry. Vessel can carry far more things than plane...
Bur I admit this was a bad example. I must've been reading supply chain issue at the time
 
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