What does 2013 mean?

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  1. yuma macrumors newbie

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    Nobody seems to be talking about just what 2013 means?

    Obviously it is still anybody's guess as to what Tim Cook meant by his response but could we start an educated, flame-free conversation as to which quarter makes the most sense.
     
  2. goMac macrumors 603

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    Answer hazy, ask again later.

    Normally you could just predict against Intel's CPU schedule, but that even seems iffy. Are they going to stick with Xeons? Use Core i7s? Waiting on a specific GPU, maybe adapted for the new machine? Maybe they're going to launch a Sandy Bridge version before Ivy Bridge?

    Too many unknowns to even start guessing.
     
  3. yuma thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Absurd is a word that comes to mind. Here we are, early July 2012, and with a loose interpretation of Mr. Cook's statement, the wait could be over a year and a half! He couldn't possibly have meant the last quarter of 2013?!!! Is it unsafe to rule even that out?
     
  4. goMac macrumors 603

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    I don't think you can either say it's going to be the last quarter of 2013 or rule it out. I would assume they're waiting on something to ship from a vendor, either Intel or a GPU vendor. I don't think the timeline he's given is just entirely arbitrary to make people mad. Obviously it's something in the supply chain. But I have no idea what that might be.

    If anyone knows Intel's release schedule better than I, maybe there is something being released around that time?

    Also a year and a half would be 2014. So not over a year and a half. :p
     
  5. 24Frames macrumors regular

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    Press Release
    Date: Monday March 25th 2013.

    "Apple today announced that due to the steep decline in Mac Pro sales the Mac Pro product line will be discontinued on 30th June 2013."

    To me this seems all to likely. The recent update will have caused a flurry of purchases. But probably only for a few weeks. Apple seem to be intent on reducing Mac Pro sales by producing such a lame update. They can then use sales figures to justify discontinuing the Mac Pro.

    Tim Cook's email was so vague as to be able to mean pretty much what you want it to mean. But the only actual direct reference to any Mac Pro update was to the 2012 one.
     
  6. iChase macrumors member

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    Maybe he was giving a safe answer. They will have a new machine by then for sure, but they could release it sooner and get an uproarious response from the community (us).
     
  7. Bubba Satori Suspended

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    Are you familiar with the gaming term kiting?
    That's what 2013 means.
     
  8. goMac macrumors 603

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    This pretty much contradicts the only thing they were actually specific about: There will be a new Mac Pro.
     
  9. scottsjack macrumors 68000

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    That's because few really care. It's the middle of 2012. Buy a computer and live with it. The always present "what do you think the next one will be like" banter is not only useless but gets real old real fast.
     
  10. nanofrog macrumors G4

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    It didn't actually state that a new MP would be the replacement product. Which left a hole open for a replacement product that is not what we currently think of as a MP, but something Apple would consider a suitable replacement product.

    It at least leaves the option open, whether that's their actual intent or not. The way I read it, it was worded extremely carefully as not to paint themselves in a corner.
     
  11. derbothaus macrumors 601

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    Always with the lawyers. Blandness abounds at Apple. I find it insulting, really. 20 years ago Steve would have too.
     
  12. JesterJJZ macrumors 68020

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    I say a January announcement, shipping in Feb.
     
  13. d-m-a-x macrumors 6502

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    that mystery email from Tim Cook said later 2013 - it made my heart sink
     
  14. thekev macrumors 604

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    That is why I wouldn't suggest anyone balance purchasing decisions around it.
     
  15. goMac macrumors 603

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    He did specifically say "Mac Pro".

    But I do agree with you "Mac Pro" could be a placeholder name for whatever they are thinking, but it does imply the pro desktop line will continue being something different from the mainstream consumer line.

    I don't think at this point anyone can make predictions about would it would be.
     
  16. fastlanephil macrumors 6502a

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    This is the complete email reply from Tim Cook.

    Franz,

    Thanks for your email. Our Pro customers like you are really important to us. Although we didn’t have a chance to talk about a new Mac Pro at today’s event, don’t worry as we’re working on something really great for later next year. We also updated the current model today.

    We’ve been continuing to update Final Cut Pro X with revolutionary pro features like industry leading multi-cam support and we just updated Aperture with incredible new image adjustment features.

    We also announced a MacBook Pro with a Retina Display that is a great solution for many pros.

    Tim

    The important word here is SOMETHING.
     
  17. goMac macrumors 603

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    Just to be clear, there have been multiple emails from Tim Cook. This one is different than the one I was quoting.
     
  18. nanofrog macrumors G4

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    Bingo.

    As I mentioned before, he did NOT explicitly state that what they're working on is another Mac Pro.

    His reply was worded with great caution that left their options open while while trying to settle the unrest that was circulating around the existing MP at the time. Nothing more.

    Others then interpreted it how they wished, which is where the "Tim Cook said there will be a new Mac Pro in 2013" comments and articles originated.

    Apple is very good at using psychology in their marketing, and it certainly seems to have accomplish that goal in this case, given what's floating around... :eek: Doesn't just have to be a web page, TV commercials, or how customers are greeted in an Apple Store. :D

    edit: goMac, this was the first. Not sure of the validity of others, as I saw them in articles and had the sense of being edited (paraphrased).
     
  19. Icaras macrumors 603

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    Ok, if we want to start making educated guesses, I'll begin by saying there's no way that the Mac Pro will be launched in the last quarter of 2013. Firstly, I believe no Mac refreshes have ever launched in the months of November and December, and the reason why we can safely exclude October in my opinion is that this month now belongs soley to the iPhone so really we can at least scratch 3 months off the target release time frame.
     
  20. xgman macrumors 601

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    This stinks no matter how you try to sugar coat it.
     
  21. TableSyrup macrumors 6502

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    Ooh, Ooh, actually.....

    Apple is on a Fiscal Year - Not Calender,
    so their 2013 actually starts September 30 2012 and ends on I believe September 28 2013!

    So we might not have to wait as long :)

    I think it'd be pretty awesome if it hit before the holidays, which, would be their 2013 ;)

    Then again, the Myans predicted stuff too, and they may have been smarter than me...... so I'm not gonna hold my breath.... especially considering the world is ending on December 21 2012 anyway :p
     
  22. ixodes macrumors 601

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    2013 is just another number. Why set unrealistic expectations?

    The days of "one more thing" are OVER.

    It's a new Era, at Apple. Sit back and see what develops.

    See how easy that is... :)
     
  23. TableSyrup macrumors 6502

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    Or...... what Wiki had to say

    2013 (MMXIII) will be a common year starting on Tuesday of the Gregorian calendar. It will be the 2013th year of the Common Era, or of the Anno Domini designation; the 13th year of the 3rd millennium and of the 21st century; and the 4th of the 2010s decade. It will also be the first year to have all digits different from each other since 1987.
     
  24. kdogsup macrumors newbie

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    Something tells me the Mac Pro design is going to change. Its approaching 10 years old now (design family started out with Powermac G5 in 2003) and my guess it is going to go the way of the Powerbook G4 AL design that stuck around till 2008 when Unibody was introduced.

    Could this be the time Apple moves to Unibody desktop design?

    If so, will it still be called Mac Pro?
     
  25. goMac macrumors 603

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    All the emails so far have been from people claiming they received replies on forums and have all been of the same validity.

    None of the emails were ever verified by Apple PR.

    I couldn't really speculate on that. But I think it's odd they'd skip Sandy Bridge if the design isn't changing.
     

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