what does Apple think?

iBilal

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How often do you think Apple expects its' users to replace their main machine .. i.s. your everyday use laptop .. I'm talking about how they say this many battery cycles .. the battery is not user replaceable .. how long do you think Apple will expect the average users' laptops' battery will last? ..
 

ajay96

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It would also depend on how much you use the laptop per day. I tend to go through 1 cycle per day easily. I run VMs occasionally on battery in school. I do have Applecare so I think i'm covered if the battery capacity goes under 80%. I'd say that the battery should last 3 years.
 

aristobrat

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The batteries haven't been user-replaceable in a long time, but Apple will replace them for you.

For the Airs and non-Retina Pros, it's the same price ($129) to have Apple replace it as when they sold the batteries that users could replace themselves.

The Retina machines are $199 for a battery replacement, but you're also getting keyboard/trackpad replaced too (since its all glued together).

So you don't have to replace a machine when the battery dies.
 

iBilal

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really? .. when you give in your 15 inch rMBP to change the battery .. the keyboard and trackpad are replaced, too? .. what if the keyboard and trackpad are fine? .. they will still replace it? .. that's interesting ..


The batteries haven't been user-replaceable in a long time, but Apple will replace them for you.

For the Airs and non-Retina Pros, it's the same price ($129) to have Apple replace it as when they sold the batteries that users could replace themselves.

The Retina machines are $199 for a battery replacement, but you're also getting keyboard/trackpad replaced too (since its all glued together).

So you don't have to replace a machine when the battery dies.
 

Howard2k

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Didn't Apple recently report that their expectation is three years on iPhone and 4 years for Mac?
 

iBilal

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when/where did they say that? .. do you have a link? .. was it on Apple's newsfeed? ..

Didn't Apple recently report that their expectation is three years on iPhone and 4 years for Mac?
 

aristobrat

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really? .. when you give in your 15 inch rMBP to change the battery .. the keyboard and trackpad are replaced, too? .. what if the keyboard and trackpad are fine? .. they will still replace it? .. that's interesting ..
Those components are all glued together, so you can't easily swap just one of them. I assume that Apple swaps them all as one (so it's a quick repair) and then has another process elsewhere that pulls the parts apart and recycles them.

• Top case assembly with battery
The MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012) top case assembly includes an embedded battery, keyboard, fan ducts and microphone. Batteries must be replaced with the top case assembly. The battery alone is not a replaceable part.
http://www.treehugger.com/gadgets/a...ans-show-battery-macbook-not-replaceable.html
 
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iBilal

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thanks for the link!


[doublepost=1463968912][/doublepost]most interesting .. thanks for the link! ..

Those components are all glued together, so you can't easily swap just one of them. I assume that Apple swaps them all as one (so it's a quick repair) and then has another process elsewhere that pulls the parts apart and recycles them.


http://www.treehugger.com/gadgets/a...ans-show-battery-macbook-not-replaceable.html
 

emilioestevez

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Neat. If you're in need of a new battery you also get a new keyboard with its replacement. I just hope Apple will continue to service rMBP batteries well into the future as my current top spec 15" is my favorite computer of all time.
 
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iBilal

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same here .. this is the best laptop/notebook I've ever owned .. I just love it!

Neat. If you're in need of a new battery you also get a new keyboard with its replacement. I just hope Apple will continue to service rMBP batteries well into the future as my current top spec 15" is my favorite computer of all time.
 

Fancuku

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Neat. If you're in need of a new battery you also get a new keyboard with its replacement. I just hope Apple will continue to service rMBP batteries well into the future as my current top spec 15" is my favorite computer of all time.
I believe after 5 or 6 years Apple stops producing parts for their Macbooks. You can no longer get a battery or any parts for the 2009 models.
 

iBilal

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yes, I suppose they keep wanting you to upgrade .. for what I paid for this machine, 5 to 6 years of use would be more than worth it ..

I believe after 5 or 6 years Apple stops producing parts for their Macbooks. You can no longer get a battery or any parts for the 2009 models.
 

Smoovejayy

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My MBA battery died a couple of months ago, so Apple is honest about the battery having about four years of life before it needs to get replaced.
 

Steve121178

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I think it should be expected that a user will hang on to their machines for a minimum of 3-4 years.

I have had my iMac since late 2012 and it performs as well today as it did from the first moment I switched it on. There is just no valid reason to replace it and I can see it lasting me for years to come. I have a 13" MBA from mid 2011 that is only just starting to show its age. It only started to slow down since applying the 10.11.4 update. Makes you wonder what was in that update to make a machine that worked flawlessly to suddenly start to crawl...! I also have a 13" rMBP from late 2013 that should last for years to come and is easily the best notebook I have ever owned.

I am a huge tech fan, so the longevity of the above won't stop me buying new Macs or PC's, but even if I do give my machines away to family or sell them, the new owner should get years of use from these computers. They are built to last.
 
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iBilal

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so your 2012 MBA's battery just died? .. didn't it go down gradually? ..

did you pay the 200 USD for the battery replacement .. and did they replace the keyboard and trackpad as well? ..

My MBA battery died a couple of months ago, so Apple is honest about the battery having about four years of life before it needs to get replaced.
 

Smoovejayy

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so your 2012 MBA's battery just died? .. didn't it go down gradually? ..

did you pay the 200 USD for the battery replacement .. and did they replace the keyboard and trackpad as well? ..
It didn't die; battery life got worse, my apologies. I had the Service Battery warning for months and didn't even notice... lol. I went to TekServe to get it replaced for $129 in two hours. Apple charged the same amount but wanted to hold onto my machine for 3-5 business days, time I could not give them. I'm not sure if they replaced keyboard/trackpad. They've been fine.
 

Samuelsan2001

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so your 2012 MBA's battery just died? .. didn't it go down gradually? ..

did you pay the 200 USD for the battery replacement .. and did they replace the keyboard and trackpad as well? ..
No the MBA's can still get a battery change on its own.
 
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