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Discussion in 'Design and Graphics' started by 7on, Apr 19, 2011.
This ticket came into autotask today and I think I cried a little.
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I didn't understand your post please will you please elaborate more about it and also please specify about ticket you have shown in your post.
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Hahaha that is awesome
I can see why being reduced to the position of "updates" could be rather soul destroying...
Nearly as good as last time I went to the bank for a new credit card having the girl behind the desk say "Sorry creative director isn't in our application system, is unemployed or other a close match?"...
Yep, I feel your pain.
Today, graphic design means: design, coding, printing, updating, button pushing, and my favorite add on: copy writer.
Designers are copy writers just as much as electricians are plumbers.
"So, what do you do?"
"I'm a graphic designer."
"Oh. So you do websites?"
"Well, no. I'm more of a print designer."
"Oh. So can design me a website?"
I came to my current job of graphic designer through prepress. And today, I do that plus print design, web, Flash, PHP, databases, and data merging, while also serving as our department IT. Our department does print, web, signage, interior design, video, event coordination and more.
We encourage our designers to broaden their skill base.
Anybody working for us wishing to be "just" a designer is going to be left behind.
I agree. I'm reluctantly teaching myself how to at least use Dreamweaver. But wow - coding and programming are things I have always struggled with...even from the days of BASIC and Turbo Pascal. But I do agree - broadening one's skillset is never a bad thing. And these days, employers and clients want as much bang for their buck as possible.
As long as the "buck" is there.
As a video editor I feel your pain...over the last two years I have had to teach myself After Effects and am now in the process of learning Cinema4D just to try to make myself competitive. Insanity.
I guess I'm considered old school now!, no web coding skills or knowledge...
People have a vague idea of what a graphic designer does, people thinks I'm awesome with the computer (programmer or something like that), I just use like 3 or 4 graphic software to do my job.
I still have a lot of work (for print) and will never learn web coding, I send my web designs to a web guy and he codes, I still focus on my design and communication skills that I can apply to any medium...
Don't worry about what people thinks.
I've been doing freelance for ~5 years. When I started I was strictly a designer. Along the way I picked up coding; first Dreamweaver, now I can code CSS and HTML from scratch. I also went to school for an animation degree and added Maya/3dsmax/Flash/Finak Cut/Etc. To my repertoire as well.
Even with all that, and programming experience (Java, Flash, and Cocoa) I still sometimes feel like it's a struggle. The field is crowded and supercompetitive, and as a result we all have to be superman. I've lost out on a few jobs because an employer felt I wasn't qualified - really?
Ranting aside, that's just how it is. At least for me.
there are still lots of different designers .... graphic designers (print), web designers (internet), creative designers (artistic)
all very different fields
There's different sides to this. I've seen designers come out of high school and they have a firm grasp on design principles, great art direction, they're excellent web developers and work equally well with print design. I've seen 19 year old kids design a site, build the site, build the CMS for the site, and then the identity for the entire brand with the site (not in that order). It's amazing. The start-up generation right now is killing it pretty hard.
But I've also encountered so many "designers" that have come out of universities with inflated egos that can't survive in the real world. It's shocking to me that so many designers out there have no illustration skills or real sense for how to create art for their designs. They're just used to pulling from stock art or passing it to an illustrator. Weird.
That is in no way a knock on going to college or not going to college.
you are right about the "start-up generation".... I see this problem as more generational than educational however... the design students in my school understand that coding is just another type of form-making... they learn letterpress in the morning and OOP in the afternoon... however, many designers (and design programs) are stuck in the past...
The term "graphic designer" is, to my mind, outdated... the type of design I do on a daily basis has little on common with what W.A. Dwiggins was doing when he coined the term in 1922. I am seeing it used less and less... designer, communication designer, user experience designer, etc...
Couldnt agree more. Im old school and for the last two days Ive been with pen and paper sketching a cartoon town for what will eventually be a Flash website. I know, I know... I hate Flash too but its what the bosses want. So when the whole thing is drawn up I'll be handing it over to a 'Web Designer' to put it all together - just how it should be done!
Do you take it from hand-drawing to Illustrator (or any other vector-based program)?
Or is that part of what the Web Designer does?
It's funny, when I started college to learn all I'd need to know about design, I had no idea all these sub-categories were out there...print designer, web designer and whatnot.
And even though I'm quite young and coming up in the age where it seems like every sixteen year old kid and their mum has Photoshop, plays with it for six hours, and calls themselves a "graphic designer"...I still feel like I like the old way of things better.
Say, for web sites...the designer creates the content, and hands it off to the guy who builds the site and writes the code.
It's amazing that now we can be a jack of all trades, what with technology becoming so widely available and more powerful each year. The downside is the masses of under qualified people who think they are designers, who will "design" things for much less than what a professional would charge, and they're flooding the market with that crap.
But as long as I can illustrate, and enjoy taking on a challenge, I'll enjoy design. The day it becomes work, I'll walk away, and find something else to do.
Oh, and this right here-this was funny.
I sketch with pen and paper then scan the sketch and 'redraw' it in Freehand/Illustrator.
As per my view graphic design makes something a new look to have with great effect and designing.
common mate Give the youngins a break buddythey will take over and be better than ever mwahaha LOL im 17 so im not in you 16yr old 6hr coursee ! & I make a living of website markiting
Although not a graphic designer I feel your pain. I tell people I work in IT and I automatically get "Whats a good computer to buy!" (Um..I can tell you what not to buy based on what I fix the most but I'm no salesman).
Or if heaven forbid people find out what I go to school for I get "Zomg you program? Can you make me an iPhone app?" (Yes, because I have nothing better to do than to spend weeks making you an app for no reason based off of your dumb app idea).
I did find a nice middle ground and the questions have stopped Supposedly the type of job I want is called a "technical artist" (someone who develops tools for artists, such as the guys who develop Maya plugins and such and create 3D animation pipelines). I just tell people I'm studying to be that, I start talking about OpenGL, MEL, and Python and the questions stop