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What happened to FaceTime becoming an industry standard?

dontwalkhand

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When the iPhone 4 was announced, apple said that FaceTime was going to be an open standard and that other devices would adopt it. What happened? It would be cool to FaceTime some droid users etc. I shouldn't have to pay attention what phone the other person has.
 
dontwalkhand said:
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When the iPhone 4 was announced, apple said that FaceTime was going to be an open standard and that other devices would adopt it. What happened? It would be cool to FaceTime some droid users etc. I shouldn't have to pay attention what phone the other person has.
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Google Talk was an open standard first based on Jabber. Apple decided to make their own "open standard" so you could ask why Google should use Apple's standard rather than vice versa.
 
dontwalkhand said:
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When the iPhone 4 was announced, apple said that FaceTime was going to be an open standard and that other devices would adopt it. What happened? It would be cool to FaceTime some droid users etc. I shouldn't have to pay attention what phone the other person has.
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For Apple devices it is.
Skype is pretty much it now.
 
Probably because facetime hasn't taken off, and there are better options out there as it is. Apple does not bring anything new to the table or make a compelling reason why facetime is better.
 
It won't happen, for a while.

I guess you read the tech article in CNN?

Looks like other companies in the industry don't want to make FaceTime an industry standard. Moreover, seems like Apple was underestimating the succession of FaceTime and so looked to other mobile platforms to acquire the standard. However, with iPads, iPhones, iPod Touches, and Macs using FaceTime, Apple isn't have any issues with it.

So i don't think we'll be seeing an industry standard unfortunately, especially after the latest acquisition of Skype by Microsoft things are only going to get more difficult.
 
AT&T happened. They set data limits that forced Facetime to be WiFi only. If it was 3G enabled (can be done via Jailbreak) it would be used a lot more cause its pretty darn easy to use.
 
chris2k5 said:
AT&T happened. They set data limits that forced Facetime to be WiFi only. If it was 3G enabled (can be done via Jailbreak) it would be used a lot more cause its pretty darn easy to use.
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That really doesn't answer the question at all.

From what I read, when Steve said that no one at Apple knew about it. So that's when they started working on such a thing. It's entirely possible that the processes of preparing it would take more than a year.

So I wouldn't count it out quite yet.
 
maflynn said:
Probably because facetime hasn't taken off, and there are better options out there as it is. Apple does not bring anything new to the table or make a compelling reason why facetime is better.
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What are these better options? I've used Tango, Skype, Fring, and Yahoo Messenger and they all suck compared to FaceTime. Tango is the best of the rest.
 
Apples and their stupid closed sourced crAPPS.


Get google talk instead, a free open industry standard.
 
lsvtecjohn3 said:
What are these better options? I've used Tango, Skype, Fring, and Yahoo Messenger and they all suck compared to FaceTime. Tango is the best of the rest.
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FaceTime should have been iChat. It stinks that I can only chat 1 on 1 with FaceTime when I could be chatting with multiple family members.
 
El3ctronics said:
Google Talk was an open standard first based on Jabber. Apple decided to make their own "open standard" so you could ask why Google should use Apple's standard rather than vice versa.
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thing is Apple standards more than likely are not free and Apple has some pretty tight rules on its so called "Open standards"

also found this on wiki
While FaceTime is based on open standards, Apple's FaceTime service requires a client-side certificate[7]. I.e. while the protocol might be open, access to Apple's FaceTime service is controlled by Apple.
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diamond.g said:
FaceTime should have been iChat. It stinks that I can only chat 1 on 1 with FaceTime when I could be chatting with multiple family members.
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I agree and I hope that they move towards it. Fring just updated their services to allow that.

I still feel FaceTime is the best video chat app I've used on a phone. Not saying FaceTime is bees knees but the video quality is the better than everything else, and yes i used all of them on 3G and Wifi
 
kiranmk2 said:
It'll probably catch on at the same time as mini-displayport...
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Lol - good zing

El3ctronics said:
Google Talk was an open standard first based on Jabber. Apple decided to make their own "open standard" so you could ask why Google should use Apple's standard rather than vice versa.
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Good point

Honestly it's funny how we wanted an iPad with FaceTime but nobody uses it

It makes my face look fat lol

I haven't even had FaceTime sex :(
 
I think that if facetime is going to be restricted to wifi there needs to be some way to see whether or not someone is available for a facetime (aka they're on wifi).
 
Born Again said:
Lol - good zing



Good point

Honestly it's funny how we wanted an iPad with FaceTime but nobody uses it

It makes my face look fat lol

I haven't even had FaceTime sex :(
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Too difficult and you'd need a stand to hold iPhone at a distance...
 
I think the first step for video chat on phones to become more commonplace in general is for wireless carriers to increase the availability of high speed data connections. People don't want to be limited to wifi when video chatting, and as of right now the video chatting experience on 3g (and some 4g where available) is inconsistent at best. As for facetime becoming an industry standard I don't see that every happening as there is no reason or incentive for other manufacturers to adopt it.
 
Just give it time. Once Microsoft screws with Skype and molds it to its own quality standards, FaceTime will begin looking much more attractive.
 
"Open" is not the same as "free" or "unencumbered". Devs are probably NOT flocking to make facetime video chat apps because Apple has a long history of banning apps that "duplicate functionality".

Apple also likes to play hardball with their stuff (in this case, their facetime protocol, their servers and their device users). If I were a dev looking to make money or grab market share, I do not think that iOS would be among my initial choices for targeted platforms because an integrated solution for video chat already exists there and the users would be unlikely to give my product a shot.
 
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