What happened to the IE Update??

[Falleron]

Originally posted by britboy



That's a fair attitude to have, and i can understand that. But why should you have to settle for something like ie, when there's a faster, better-looking browser out there?

That 0.3 of a second wouldn't make much difference on a dial-up modem. For broadband users it's different though. The whole point of broadband is to make the internet faster. If a browser can help to add speed, then you're going to go for it, even if it's just a 0.3 of a second each time. It's similar to asking why gamers need 290 fps, when 150 would do just fine; to get the best out there.

Fair poit, I have a Dial up connection! It does not make much of a difference to me. My only problem with the current version is that IT JUST DOES NOT WORK!!! Ok, it does actually work, just not very well!

 

[Choppaface]

Re: Mozilla

Originally posted by chmorley


Can you say more about the scrollbar style thing? I either don't understand or simply haven't experienced the same problem.

CSS scrollbar styles, I know IE 6 on windows supports them, but I'm pretty sure thats the only browser to support them (maybe NS 6 does though)

if you look in the page's source, I'm referring to:
BODY {
SCROLLBAR-BASE-COLOR: #606096;
SCROLLBAR-ARROW-COLOR: #FFF788;
}

which makes the scrollbar purpleish (like the background) in windows IE

 

[Rower_CPU]

Re: Re: Mozilla

Originally posted by Choppaface
CSS scrollbar styles, I know IE 6 on windows supports them, but I'm pretty sure thats the only browser to support them (maybe NS 6 does though)

if you look in the page's source, I'm referring to:
BODY {
SCROLLBAR-BASE-COLOR: #606096;
SCROLLBAR-ARROW-COLOR: #FFF788;
}

which makes the scrollbar purpleish (like the background) in windows IE

IE5 on Windows supports them, too.

 

[AmbitiousLemon]

O. thats interesting. i never knew about scrollbar styles. i wouldnt expect any mac browser to ever have that though. sort fo violates apple's hig.

you cant have web browsers changing the look and feel of your applications and windows like that. i like my lil aqua scroll bar and i dont think id like to have it change when i went to different sites.

but i dont mean to sound like im attacking the idea of it. its kinda cool, and it fits well into windows since there is no hig. it would be kinda fun as a web developer to play with things like that.

im just saying it doesnt play well with what apple is all about.

 

[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon
O. thats interesting. i never knew about scrollbar styles. i wouldnt expect any mac browser to ever have that though. sort fo violates apple's hig.

you cant have web browsers changing the look and feel of your applications and windows like that. i like my lil aqua scroll bar and i dont think id like to have it change when i went to different sites.

but i dont mean to sound like im attacking the idea of it. its kinda cool, and it fits well into windows since there is no hig. it would be kinda fun as a web developer to play with things like that.

im just saying it doesnt play well with what apple is all about.

I have mixed feelings about it. On one hand, it allows each web designer to keep color schemes consistent even in the scrollbar; but on the other it can confuse the user if not done properly (gray arrows on gray scrollbar, etc.).

I've messed around with it on a site I did a while ago when I was doing crew:
http://crew.sdsu.edu (The new webmaster may have made changes...)

PS. Diggin' the new 'tar!

 

[Choppaface]

Re: Re: Re: Mozilla

well I've got moz running in OSX ....after using it for a little while it's already got a BIG strike against it at least for me-> you can't drag the page by holding down command. in mac IE (and in the OS 9 finder) instead of having to move over to the scrollbar I can just hold down command and drag the mouse to move the page, which effectively makes the entire page a scrollbar (this is like holding down space in PS, AI, indesign, etc etc to hand-navigate through a doc)...and larger hit areas are always better. I can see they fixed a lot of the rendering issues, although it still doesn't recognized bgproperties="fixed" in the body tag >>_<<


I really don't see any increase in speed. it certainly slower than IE opening multiple windows, and it seems to render the page (onces its finished downloading everything) in the same amount of time. I'm also noticing a bit of lag as I type this into the box which I dont find in IE. as for tabs, I like that they're smaller than the IE tabs, although in order to use them you have to expand the little tabs frame, where in IE you dont have to do that. bookmarks and history are nice, but search is utterly useless for me as I always just go to google's page. is there a way to change the search provider there?

it IS a lot better than I expected, but so far it hasn't won me over from IE. I'll try it for another day or too, but so far I haven't seen anything that would make me switch

also it stuck a shortcut of itself in the taskbar of my PC. how dare it do that!!! >_<
putting a shortcut on my desktop was enough >>>_<<<

Originally posted by Rower_CPU


IE5 on Windows supports them, too.

ya i thought 5 might do it too but i wasnt sure. IMO the page shouldn't be allowed to change browser features that much...windows with scrollbars and stuff turned off via javascript are sort of borderline, but they make things look nice. If mac IE were to support it I'd hope that they'd at least keep that aqua shape of the scollbar....but maybe just change the color of it