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What have you done with an early Intel recently?

Amethyst1 said:
I haven't tried the UltraFine with the 7770 yet
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Now I have. :)

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I had to add the 4096×2304 modes manually since the 7770 isn't fully reading the UltraFine's EDID, missing all the native modes and running the monitor at 3840×2160 instead. I can run 4096×2304 at 53 Hz refresh (higher isn't possible due to the 540 MHz pixel clock limit), which pretty much feels as good as 60 Hz. Annoyingly, the 7770 is said to do 4096×2160 at 60 Hz (by AMD) which requires 567.25 MHz - and Apple confirm this was enabled in 10.10.3 for the trash can Mac Pro sporting same-gen AMD GPUs, suggesting the 540 MHz limit in Mavericks is an artificial one.
 
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TheShortTimer said:
It would appear that you have access to a superior type of HDDs that are not available to the general public. You must share this source with us so that we can all benefit. :)
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Unfortunately I'm not a manufacturer * or a seller * of hard drives, I can't give you advice, he, he, he. But I do tell you for sure what I say about my previous message: never trust the OSX "disk utility". He is very optimistic and affectionate with all his clients ;)

Cheers
 
Upped the ante since the 7770 has two Mini-DisplayPorts.

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Yep, that's a 2010 27" iMac in Target Display Mode running as a second external display. I gotta say, having a display called "iMac" hooked up to a MBP is rad! :D

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(The UltraFine was running in the 2048×1152 HiDPI mode - that's what's reported by System Information.)
 
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Amethyst1 said:
Now I have. :)

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I had to add the 4096×2304 modes manually since the 7770 isn't fully reading the UltraFine's EDID, missing all the native modes and running the monitor at 3840×2160 instead. I can run 4096×2304 at 53 Hz refresh (higher isn't possible due to the 540 MHz pixel clock limit), which pretty much feels as good as 60 Hz. Annoyingly, the 7770 is said to do 4096×2160 at 60 Hz (by AMD) which requires 567.25 MHz - and Apple confirm this was enabled in 10.10.3 for the trash can Mac Pro sporting same-gen AMD GPUs, suggesting the 540 MHz limit in Mavericks is an artificial one.
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Amethyst1 said:
Upped the ante since the 7770 has two Mini-DisplayPorts.

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Yep, that's a 2010 27" iMac in Target Display Mode running as a second external display. I gotta say, having a display called "iMac" hooked up to a MBP is rad! :D

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(The UltraFine was running in the 2048×1152 HiDPI mode - that's what's reported by System Information.)
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In my best impersonation of James Earl Jones in what is probably his quintessential screen role, "Impressive - most, impressive." :D

Forgive me if I've asked this before, have you documented in-depth, the various steps and processes involved in these GPU projects in the form of a blog or an article? If not, I really urge you to please do so because I for one would love to read it. This is amazing tinkering! :)
 
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mortlocli said:
Mavericks struggles a bit (beachballs) on my 17 inch Imac 5,1 but Ive only 2 gb of ram...did wonder bout getting more..and your findings help verify that is wot I need to do - thank you!!!
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More RAM and an SSD is certainly the way to pimp up an old iMac, but how did you manage to run Mavericks on that 17" iMac 5,1?
 
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Decided to change the OS configuration on my 2009 Mini once again. I usually like to have an older version of Mac OS/OS X for older programs and a newer version for the latest browser possible on the machine plus any newer applications that won't run on the older Mac OS/OS X. My previous configuration was a dual boot of Ubuntu 20 and Mavericks. I came to the conclusion today that Ubuntu 20 filled the role normally taken by a modern version of OS X very well. I actually prefer Ubuntu 20 over Yosemite and later. So, I decided to keep Ubuntu on here and that for the role of older OS X, I needed to go earlier than Mavericks. So, I put Snow Leopard back on here. Leopard and SL are my favorite versions of OS X due to the UI. Nothing wrong with Mavericks, it just wasn't the right vintage for my vision. Mavericks may have the advantage of more browser options, but since I already have Ubuntu 20 on here, I can just boot into that when I need a more modern browser than what is available on SL. Plus SL has Rosetta, which is good to fall back on in case my PPC Macs aren't working.

I will still have Mavericks on my 2006 MBP though, where it serves as the most modern version of OS X that is (unofficially) possible for that Mac. It's dual booted with XP, which I guess you could say fills the role of the vintage OS since I am using it to run older Windows programs.
 
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After a hard day now listening to my Shazam-collected music of the last year or so with sound enhanced by BassJump2 subwoofer ...
 
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I think I may have permanently messed up my 2006 MBP...

I noticed while using Mavericks that the scroll bars would just randomly disappear. I thought it was just an issue with Discord on FireFox 78, but this issue also appears in other sites as well as Finder. So, I downgraded to the patched Mountain Lion using an image I had made and all was well until I tried to reboot into XP. I reinstalled rEFInd (like I normally do when changing my OS config on an Intel Mac, but it's boot menu wouldn't show up despite rebooting three times (it is only supposed to take two reboots for the menu to appear installation, sometimes it works after just one reboot). So I tried using ML's startup disk control panel to get into XP. When I did this XP BSOD'd, I couldn't even get into safe mode. So, I wiped the SSD and started over with a fresh install of Leopard and XP via BootCamp Assistant. It took the Mac about 5-10 minutes to reboot into Leopard after installing the Bootcamp drivers. Even my SL Install DVD took about 10 minutes to boot to its desktop. I wiped the SSD, still slow booting. I reset the PRAM, still slow booting, I reset the SMC two times, still slow booting. I repaired permissions and repaired the SSD itself via First Aid (even though First Aid said the SSD was fine), still slow booting. This slow booting only happens to OS X (both on the SSD and Install DVD), Windows boots normally. Guess I should have let the patched Mavericks be or should have not used patched ML's Startup disk panel to get back to XP. Guess I will have to just make it a Windows only laptop *sigh*.
 
MacFoxG4 said:
It took the Mac about 5-10 minutes to reboot into Leopard after installing the Bootcamp drivers. Even my SL Install DVD took about 10 minutes to boot to its desktop.
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Does verbose mode shed any light on what's causing it to boot that slowly? And does the SL DVD also boot that slowly after disconnecting the SSD? (I admit that's just a shot in the dark.)


I got my hands on a Late 2008 15" MBP with a wonky display (wrong colours, flashing pixels, weird backlight) for a song. This machine has GeForce 9x00 graphics and a MiniDisplayPort, so I wasted no time and got to work... :)

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Full 4096×2304 is a no-go, as is 4080×2295 (black screen), so 4064×2286 or 2032×1143 HiDPI is as good as it gets using the discrete GeForce 9600M GT. When I switch to the on-board GeForce 9400M (System Preferences > Energy Saver > Graphics: Better battery life), I'm limited to 3840×2160.
 
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@Amethyst1 Looking at Verbose mode, I saw some references to the AirPort Extreme not having an interface name and mDNSresponder having issues. When I installed the boot camp drivers , I disabled the AirPort Extreme in XP before rebooting. I usually have it disabled in OS X as well because whenever I connect to the internet with it other devices in my house get kicked offline. I use an Ethernet to wireless bridge to get my Macs online instead. Wondering if I messed up the airport card somehow? I’m gonna try and remove it and see if anything changes. If that doesn’t work then I will try your suggestion of removing the SSD.
 
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MacFoxG4 said:
@Amethyst1 Looking at Verbose mode, I saw some references to the AirPort Extreme not having an interface name and mDNSresponder having issues. When I installed the boot camp drivers , I disabled the AirPort Extreme in XP before rebooting. I usually have it disabled in OS X as well because whenever I connect to the internet with it other devices in my house get kicked offline. I use an Ethernet to wireless bridge to get my Macs online instead. Wondering if I messed up the airport card somehow? I’m gonna try and remove it and see if anything changes. If that doesn’t work then I will try your suggestion of removing the SSD.
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Removing the airport card and SSD didn’t change anything, unfortunately.
 
joevt said:
What you're looking for is improved or changed behavior from previous tests. I guess I would try both.


USB-C Power Delivery does a lot of negotiation so that things don't blow up. You can do things like connect two computers via USB-C and they won't melt. Don't try that with USB-A (but USB-A to USB-C should be ok).
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For the record, I just tried to plug my M1 MBA into my M1 iMac using a TB3 cable. The computers did connect (for me to transfer data) and the MacBook Air made the “ding” charging noise. But after I disconnected the M1 Air thunderbolt port wouldn’t work any more with any accessories or even the original power adaptor. Luckily after a restart the port was operating normally again. I’m going to be much more careful about this in the future.
 
uller6 said:
For the record, I just tried to plug my M1 MBA into my M1 iMac using a TB3 cable. The computers did connect (for me to transfer data) and the MacBook Air made the “ding” charging noise. But after I disconnected the M1 Air thunderbolt port wouldn’t work any more with any accessories or even the original power adaptor. Luckily after a restart the port was operating normally again. I’m going to be much more careful about this in the future.
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You're supposed to be able to connect two computers via Thunderbolt to do stuff like Thunderbolt networking, Thunderbolt target display mode (with old iMacs), and Thunderbolt target disk mode. So if you're having problems with that then it should be reported to Apple.

USB target disk mode on USB-C/Thunderbolt Macs is also a thing (and FireWire before that on non-USB-C Macs).
 
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Figured out yesterday that when I span InDesign documents across two screens and THEN go into Split View, the document splits EVENLY, one view to each display!

No more having to open a second view!

Also, it occurred to me today that I can have my Word docs on my 'wing' monitors and because they are more vertical than they are wide it works!

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TheShortTimer said:
They're also perfect for replica arcade cabinets that require vertical displays. ;)
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Vertical CRTs are the bomb anyway, they're just so... weird. :D Apparently there were some that supported rotation.

(I found a Windows 3.1x video driver that allows rotation on S3 GPUs - and it works in Virtual PC - that was fun LOL)
 
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Amethyst1 said:
And tested the scaled resolution (framebuffer) limits on a Kepler card (GTX 660 Ti)... Voila, Mavericks at 8192×4096.
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An update to that: with a Dell P2415Q hooked up to an NVIDIA NVS 510 (GK107) in Mojave, rotating the display makes all scaled HiDPI resolutions higher than 1080×1920 disappear into thin air. Guess I do need an AMD GPU after all.
 
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Amethyst1 said:
Vertical CRTs are the bomb anyway, they're just so... weird. :D
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When I started using MAME to enjoy arcade games at home, I remember being confused that a number of titles presented themselves in a strange aspect ratio that didn't fit my 4:3 monitor correctly. I later understood about the usage of vertical monitors, especially after watching the documentary The King of Kong, during which game footage is watched at a venue using a CRT TV turned on its side.

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Nowadays, instead of requiring a vertical CRT, you could simply rotate a 16:9 flat panel monitor/TV if you want to enjoy the likes of Donkey Kong or Raiden as they were meant to be played and I have a 22" LED that I might use for that purpose once I've badgered a friend into building a custom swivel stand for me . :)

Amethyst1 said:
Apparently there were some that supported rotation.

(I found a Windows 3.1x video driver that allows rotation on S3 GPUs - and it works in Virtual PC - that was fun LOL)
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Can you show us some shots of this? :)
 
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So... It may or may fit this thread, but a very gracious Discord member sent me a 2010 macpro for the cost of shipping (which wasn't cheap, and i added an extra $70 to that because it's a nice machine). Well holy hell is this thing fast. My core 2 duos i was using to build interweb/spiderweb/arcticfox etc usually took 1.5 to 2.5 hours per browser build. This machine just built InterWeb in less than 10 minutes!!!! This will make trouble shooting failed backports much quicker to track down and rebuild. I'm stoked.

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Oh, and here's an updated InterWeb (60.9.4) and SpiderWeb (2.2.3) made possible by this machine. :D

Cheers
 
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