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In happier news, I also decided to drop a bit more than £20 on an early Intel and finally picked up my dream OCLP MBP. Wanted this to be another little tinkering/upgrade project, but with RAM/SSD prices the way they are right now, it made more financial sense to buy one someone had already upgraded. 😂 16GB RAM and a 500GB SSD, plus a healthy battery (105 cycles, 94% BH according to Coconut Battery). And it runs Sequoia like a dream*. 😍

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* - Perfectly smoothly for web browsing, YouTube, streaming and other such light-ish tasks. Please don't ask me to post Cinebench results.
That thing would be even happier running Mojave with a few Linux and Windows VMs in Parallels 18. (You'd be able to run three times as much software, especially all of the old fun stuff like 32bit games.) ....And as always, disable MDS_stores in Terminal.
 
Yay!
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Now it's working again, the only fresh hardware issue is that the optical drive seems to be toast. 🙃 Not ideal, as the installers I have for my eventual dual-boot OSes of choice for this (Snow Leopard and Debian 13) are both on discs. Ah well, back to eBay!

That thing would be even happier running Mojave with a few Linux and Windows VMs in Parallels 18. (You'd be able to run three times as much software, especially all of the old fun stuff like 32bit games.) ....And as always, disable MDS_stores in Terminal.

My current Mojave machine is a 2012 Mac mini on the other side of the room. 😀 'Tis a lovely OS. I plan to let this MBP keep surfing the OCLP wave to its now-inevitable conclusion in a year or two and then I'll revert it (along with the rest of my little OCLP fleet) back to some sort of native macOS support (probably Mojave tbf) with various Linux flavours as dual-boots. ☺️
 
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MBP 17" 2007:- I've tried quite hard to like this machine, using Linux. But there were always problems, the main one being a persistent inability to shut down or restart. Not every time, but most times. Really annoying. Worst thing? Not fixable. It's apparently down to the firmware, which works well with macOS, but not with much else. It throws up a USB-related error and just stops, requiring a forced shutdown.
Having spent a couple of hours trying all the fixes I could find, courtesy of a very knowledgeable guy on the MX Linux forum, I gave up.
Then the postie arrived, bringing with him 2x4GB DDR2-800 SODIMMs. These went into my wife's Compaq CQ56, and the 6GB of Hynix RAM from that went into this old Macbook. I've spent the rest of the day so far returning it to El Capitan and setting up mail and browser so it can be used as a basic daily driver. FF Dynasty 147 and Thunderbird 78ESR are working well, although I'd like something more recent in mail if it's not too irksome.
Whatever, here it is, and in macOS at least, it's a cracker.
 
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I've also been looking at my various machines and wondering how they'd perform with their launch OS. Presumably, very quickly indeed! A 2015 MBA with 8GB RAM should eat ElCap for breakfast! I'd like to try this on the 2011 MBP 15", but I cannot get the installers to bypass looking for the dead Radeon GPU... Only @dosdude1 's Catalina (and, I suspect, Mojave) patcher will install on that.
 
MBP 17" 2007:- I've tried quite hard to like this machine, using Linux. But there were always problems, the main one being a persistent inability to shut down or restart. Not every time, but most times. Really annoying. Worst thing? Not fixable. It's apparently down to the firmware, which works well with macOS, but not with much else. It throws up a USB-related error and just stops, requiring a forced shutdown.
Having spent a couple of hours trying all the fixes I could find, courtesy of a very knowledgeable guy on the MX Linux forum, I gave up.
Then the postie arrived, bringing with him 2x4GB DDR2-800 SODIMMs. These went into my wife's Compaq CQ56, and the 6GB of Hynix RAM from that went into this old Macbook. I've spent the rest of the day so far returning it to El Capitan and setting up mail and browser so it can be used as a basic daily driver. FF Dynasty 147 and Thunderbird 78ESR are working well, although I'd like something more recent in mail if it's not too irksome.
Whatever, here it is, and in macOS at least, it's a cracker.
Take a look at Desert OS, LMDE6, and EndeavourOS, as they have out-of-box proprietary driver support, and don't use much ram. (I want to like MX more, but it's irritating incompatible with Yumi/Ventoy grub installation on Macs.)
 
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I've also been looking at my various machines and wondering how they'd perform with their launch OS. Presumably, very quickly indeed! A 2015 MBA with 8GB RAM should eat ElCap for breakfast! I'd like to try this on the 2011 MBP 15", but I cannot get the installers to bypass looking for the dead Radeon GPU... Only @dosdude1 's Catalina (and, I suspect, Mojave) patcher will install on that.
Definitely Mojave since Catalina is almost as deprecated now, meaning there's little reason to forfeit 32bit support and/or HFS+ booting.
 
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Take a look at Desert OS, LMDE6, and EndeavourOS, as they have out-of-box proprietary driver support, and don't use much ram. (I want to like MX more, but it's irritating incompatible with Yumi/Ventoy grub installation on Macs.)
The irritating errors mentioned happen with any and all distros, unfortunately. This is the only Mac I have with a problem. Otherwise, MX it is. Everything I have is single-boot, and Yumi/Ventoy not on my radar, so no issues so far.
 
Definitely Mojave since Catalina is almost as deprecated now, meaning there's little reason to forfeit 32bit support and/or HFS+ booting.
I will try Mojave again at some point, but gor pure interest. There's no software it could give me, and my understanding was that HFS+ is no advantage on SSDs. But, as is normally the way, it's probably a bit quicker than Catalina on any given machine.
 
With obvious apologies to Apple's 2007-era design team. I don't think this was quite the aesthetic they had in mind. 😅

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But will it boot? 😱

Congrats on the revival! You gonna keep it on Tiger? I sure do miss that Aqua interface. The brushed metal and the glossy buttons/icons. My very first Mac was a Late 2006 Black MacBook that came with 10.4.8. Good times. 😁
 
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Congrats on the revival! You gonna keep it on Tiger? I sure do miss that Aqua interface. The brushed metal and the glossy buttons/icons. My very first Mac was a Late 2006 Black MacBook that came with 10.4.8. Good times. 😁

Not sure yet tbh. Only installed Tiger as I had that to hand on a bootable USB. My plan was dual-booting Snow Leopard and Debian 13 (once I have a working optical drive for the installer discs). But I have a SL install running on a 2007 MacBook elsewhere in my increasingly daft collection, so I might keep the macOS side of the mini's partition on Tiger and see what I can get to run on that. I joined the macOS train quite late on (was a Windows/Chromebook user in my youth - don’t hurt me 🫣). My first Mac was a 2017 Air running Big Sur. So I’m really discovering all these old ‘nostalgic’ versions of macOS for the first time. 😀

This is all assuming that the Franken-mini survives its next operation. Right now I need to take the whole thing apart again and give it a proper clean/dust/repaste/etc. Didn’t seem worth doing that while I still wasn’t sure if I could get it working. So there’s still a good chance I break it again clumsily trying to unplug a connector. 🫠
 
The Franken-mini came through its glow-up without sustaining any fresh injuries.😮‍💨 Processor re-pasted (to the soundtrack of some colourful language from yours truly as I wrestled with the barbed spring-loaded plastic pins that hold the heat sinks of these things down 😡), RAM upgraded (2x2GB sticks, though I think this is from the era of Mac models that accepts 4GB but only ever uses 3GB for some technical reason I don't understand), PRAM battery replaced (causing some minor panic on my part before I realised I'd put the new battery in the wrong way around 😳) and two decades of dust cleaned out of the fan/internals (🤮).

Replacement optical drive on the way, feels like I may as well try and find a second-hand SSD as well (have no unused spare drives right now, so I threw an old HDD in for testing purposes) and then hopefully I can seal the thing back up, install Debian (and maybe SL over the Tiger install) and we're done. 😀
 
my understanding was that HFS+ is no advantage on SSDs.

I will try Mojave again at some point, but gor pure interest. There's no software it could give me, and my understanding was that HFS+ is no advantage on SSDs. But, as is normally the way, it's probably a bit quicker than Catalina on any given machine.
I can think of at least seven off the top of my head: 1) some SSDs (even OEM apple) just won't boot APFS volumes at all for whatever reason. 2) There are many more 3rd-party utilities that can deal with Disk Utility-choking file-system corruption in HFS+ as opposed to APFS (and if an APFS partition containing multiple volumes pokes, you're probably SOL. 3) You can browse the contents of the drive from many other booted operating systems (including El Capitan and earlier APFS-incompatable MacOS versions). 4. Cloning with CCC5 isn't the pain in the ass that it is in CCC6 w/APFS. (For starters, you can create incremental, bootable, backup tasks in CCC5 that put Apple's crappy TimeMachine to shame.) 5. FoxClone and RescueZilla archives are much smaller for HFS+ (FoxClone's dev personally informed me that he won't even bother trying to parse empty space in APFS partitions/volumes). 6. If you forget your user login password, you can reset it in Recovery mode Terminal. 7. If you stick with Mojave/HFS+, you won't be seduced by the siren-song of OCLP/Sequoia firmware IDing and encrypting a soldered-drive device, risking bricking the machine if anything goes wrong (and Apple is extremely desirous of you bricking your out-of-warranty machine).
 
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MacOS "Mojo" (Mojave-Optimized) is functionality complete. (Pic below is a stock "incompatible" metal-less 2010 i3 iMac.) Correctly working:
* color palette
* wifi, audio, bluetooth
* memory-compression
* hardware-acceleration
* Open GL (32bit games!)
* nongeneric document icons
* screen brightness slider
* CPU throttling
* screensaver

Basically, everything runs fine, and off an internal spinning-rust HFS+ partition, no less. Parallels 18 VMs, Davinci Resolve, Adobe whatchamacallit -- it'll all launch. Terminal disabled list: MRT, MDS_stores, Spotlight Indexing, Reportcrash, Software Update, Notifications.

Bonus: it actually uses slightly less ram than High Sierra. (To be fair, I haven't been tweaking it as much as Mojave, although I do have all the same cruft disabled.)

My master is an external 250gb SATA SSD with two HFS+ partitions: a big main one, and a second 9gb one that holds dosdude1's installer with room left for Opencore 0.43 (also necessary). The goal has always been a single MacOS boot device that could launch all Mac models from 2019 back to as early as the oldest core2duo machines.
 

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Speaking of Linux, this Mac mini is going to be the death of me. 😅 Working optical drive installed, SSD installed, Tiger re-installed on one partition, big old chunk of free space prepped for my Linux install. And...nothing wants to install. Tried with Debian (rated for the 2,1 https://wiki.debian.org/MacMiniIntel). First install froze. Second install froze. Third install completed but the login page was stuck in a loop. Fourth install froze. 😔

Never mind, I've got a bunch of install CDs with various distros on that I used successfully on a MacBook 2,1 last year (all fixed to work on the weird 32-bit EFI/64-bit processor setup that - I think - this mini shares). Tried Peppermint OS. Live environment wouldn't load. Tried Lubuntu LTS. First install failed. Second install worked and...I got stuck in the login loop again. Which no amount of troubleshooting seems to be able to fix. 😤

Going to have to give up for now and come back to this at some point after listening to some calming whale sounds or something. 🧘
 
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Updated my secondary drive to Mavericks! AND got iLife '13, iWork '13, Logic Pro X and several games on it! F1 2013 and DiRT 3 specifically, as those games need 10.9.5 minimum. F1 2013 runs on my 2009 Mac like absolute crap LMAO, had to throw F1 2012's specifications.xml file so it'd run. DiRT 3 runs SUPER smoothly on Mavericks. DiRT 2, which i've mostly played on my main Snow Leopard partition also runs great! Smoother than SL, but i don't think extra FPS on a game are going to make me switch lol. Very fun tho!! 😀 I now have the two best OS X releases on my computer. Will try to archive my DiRT 3 copy!🙂
 

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Does a live session work? If so, try installing your preferred distro clean, just to see if it's a problem with the dual boot.

Tried wiping the entire drive and clean installing a few times as well without any joy. It’s a good job base Tiger 10.4.5 installs to the SSD in about 5 minutes (plus another 20-30 minutes to run all the software updates), because I went through that about five times yesterday. 😂

But…good news! I tried again with Lubuntu 24.04 LTS late last night after the calming whale sounds, got into the login loop again, but was able to get to Terminal and login from there, then run a full update/upgrade cycle (which took another hour to complete…to be fair the install CD was made last year so that's a lot of changes to spin through). And after that, I was able to login to the desktop as normal. 😮 😀

Just need to re-check today that both halves of the dual boot still work, and then I think I’ll call it there. Not the distro I wanted, but tbf Lubuntu has been running really well on that old C2D 2009 MacBook a couple of pages back, so it’ll do the job. Will have to revisit Debian on a newer bit of hardware, I think. There's plenty of contenders sitting around on my shelves. ☺️
 
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All good. One dead 2007 Mac mini resurrected. Eventually. 😀 Will find a long-term home for it soon. Right now it’s on my work table with my ‘test’ monitor.

Need to have more of a play with Tiger, and a browse of Macintosh Garden etc, but it looks like there’s not as much enthusiast development going on for Intel 10.4 compared to PPC 10.4? Which makes sense, I think any Intel that can run Tiger can at least run something like SL, which is a much more active enthusiast OS on the Intel side. Still, at least I can get my Mario 3 fix.
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And Lubuntu LTS seems to be stable now. Punishes the processor a bit more than it does on the 2009 MacBook, but still seems eminently useable for the basics. Mario 3 install pending.
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To celebrate the completed repair, and at the risk of polluting this lovely Early Intel forum with some of that Silicon nonsense, I also thought I’d let the mini 2,1 meet their great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandchild. ☺️ A giant leap forwards in processing power, a giant leap backwards in power button placement.
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And, because this always seems to happen, here’s a bonus shot of the random screw that was left behind on my table when I’d finished the rebuild. 😳 Computer repair is my passion.
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😅 See, people give Apple a hard time for their hostility towards repairability. But credit where it's due, their decision to include a spare extra screw with all their old computers was ahead of its time. And always a different sized screw as well!
They did supply the 4 extra screws in the old Mac Pro models that you need to mount an additional optical drive in the case! That was pretty cool of them I thought.

See them in the photo here to the left of the red circled top mounting screws next to the guys thumb!

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The goal has always been a single MacOS boot device that could launch all Mac models from 2019 back to as early as the oldest core2duo machines.
Regrettably this remains elusive, as my "silverback" version of Mojo (for non-metal i-series machines) will not boot 2012+ thinside iMacs because, apparently, MacOS doesn't actually check hardware during launch, and so hangs. (Either that or OCLP 0.43 actually squishes some of the needed kexts even if you don't boot through its loader. Or hard-defaults its root-patches, or whatever. Anyway , it's a shame that dosdude1 never "finished" his Mojave patch so that opencore is no longer needed.)
 
They did supply the 4 extra screws in the old Mac Pro models that you need to mount an additional optical drive in the case! That was pretty cool of them I thought.

See them in the photo here to the left of the red circled top mounting screws next to the guys thumb!

😁

Every day's a school day. 😀
 
This week’s challenge. Been working for a while on a Late-2011 13” MBP I’ve been trying to set up as a simple Linux machine for a family member. All the upgrades/hardware fixing is now done, just waiting on a new battery to arrive, but the OS install has been a journey. 😅

Whatever distro I tried (Mint Cinnamon, Mint XFCE, Debian, Lubuntu), the trackpad was misbehaving. Just laggy/jerky in use, or even just stopping/stalling altogether. Made the device basically unusable. Tried the synaptic drivers instead of libinput. Tried swapping the trackpad for one from a donor unit. No difference. Worked fine with a wired mouse. Worked fine when I booted to the live environments on a different MacBook. Just wouldn’t work here, no matter what googled advice I threw at the terminal. 😔

Eventually gave up and started again. Wiped the SSD, reinstalled Sierra 10.12.6 to verify the hardware was fine in macOS (it was). Then tried the Mint Cinnamon live environment again. This time, switching to the synaptic driver seemed to work. 🤷‍♂️ So I re-installed to the SSD, updated the driver and then upgraded to 22.3 via Upgrade Manager. And…it seems to be ok now? Pointer speed is a bit slow even at the fastest setting, but no more stalls/freezing/lag. 😀

The other issue is WiFi. I had an issue with a previous 2011 MBP on Mint where every now and again the WiFi would just drop. And then when I went to toggle the WiFi off and on again to reconnect, the entire device would freeze and I’d have to force a reboot to get it working again. That same issue happened once during my setup of this new device (when running update manager for the first time). I’ve changed some Broadcom driver bits and bobs, so will have to see if that stabilises things, because I don’t want to have the thing disconnecting all the time when the family member takes ownership. 🫣

Fun, fun, fun.
 
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