What?! HP Pavilion Elite HPE-180t

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  1. aLfR3dd macrumors member

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    HP Pavilion Elite HPE-180t PC AZ222AV#ABA

    Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-980 six-core Extreme Edition [3.33GHz, 1.5MB L2 + 12MB shared L3 cache]
    12GB DDR3-1066MHz SDRAM [6 DIMMs]
    300GB 10K rpm & 640GB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s - two hard drives
    1GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 220 [DVI, HDMI, VGA]
    LightScribe 16X max. DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti drive
    Premium Wireless-N LAN card and Bluetooth(R)
    15-in-1 memory card reader, 1 USB, 1394, audio
    No TV Tuner
    Integrated 7.1 channel sound with front audio ports
    No speakers
    HP deluxe wireless keyboard and HP wireless optical mouse
    Microsoft(R) Works 9.0
    Norton Internet Security(TM) 2010 - 15 month
    HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope
    Estimated build date: March 30, 2010

    Free standard shipping on this item

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    Qty. Update » Price: $2,719.99
    PC instant rebate: –$300.00
    Price after rebate: 2,419.99



    Is this real or I'm dreaming? "Only" 2,419$ for a computer with the latest Intel Processor, 12Gb of ram, and 2 hard drives (one 10k rpm)?

    Guys is this the processor the new Mac pro's will have? If yes, i'm buying this immediately instead of waiting for a 6,000$ Mac Pro....

    please let me know

    Thanks
     
  2. milk242 macrumors 6502a

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    That HP uses the consumer version of the "Gainstown" chips while the Mac Pro will most likely use the server (xeon) version of the Gainstown chip. Basically it adds the ability for ECC and some other things that I'm not informed enough to tell you about.

    Also I think if you don't really need error correction to a high degree as scientific computation research does, then the consumer version will be fine but you won't be able to put in two of those processors on one motherboard.
     
  3. thejadedmonkey macrumors 604

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    I have highlighted the reason for the price discrepancy between Apple and HP. ;)
     
  4. GMink macrumors regular

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    Wait that can't be it! My Mac Pro didn't come with speakers!

    The Xeon processors allow for multiple processor configurations (not just multi core) none of the consumer Intel chips off that.

    IMO in almost every other respect they have identical architecture. I'm sure the Xeon go through a different sampling and selection process that's probably more stringent than the desktop chips.
     
  5. aLfR3dd thread starter macrumors member

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    I took off the configuration the speakers, they were like 30 dollars ...
     
  6. Abyssgh0st macrumors 68000

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    Besides the processor that thing is trash. RAM is so easy to come upon these days, and HDDs are at an all time low. A 300GB VelociRaptor (10K RPM) is only $229 from Best Buy.. That's without coupons sent out all the time for 10-12% off.

    And really, the GT 220? Nothing like having a sub $1K processor and a < $100 graphics card..
     
  7. Techhie macrumors 65816

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    All of this scrutiny, and yet no acknowledgment of the machine's worth as compared to a similar price Mac Pro.

    Apple's "value" literally makes me ill. If they don't step their game up with the next update, they might as well kiss this $3,000 goodbye.
     
  8. Abyssgh0st macrumors 68000

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    The goal of my post wasn't to compare it to Apple's obvious overpricing on Mac Pros, but more so to say that the HP machine is obvious inferior just in terms of operating system, build quality, warranty options, etc to Mac Pros.

    Not to mention that the HP machine isn't worth ~$2700 (or even the ~$2400 post-rebate price), IMO.
     
  9. Mike P. macrumors newbie

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    I think its a good buy.
    This is what I custom built it. Should arrive any day now
    $1,535 after taxes

    HP Pavilion Elite HPE-170t PC
    Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
    Intel Core i7-860 quad 2.8GHz
    8GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [4 DIMMs]
    1TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive
    1GB ATI Radeon HD 5450 [DVI, HDMI, VGA adapter]
    Blu-ray writer & Lightscribe SuperMulti DVD burner
    Premium Wireless-N LAN card and Bluetooth
    15-in-1 memory card reader, 1 USB, 1394, audio
    No TV Tuner <I got satellite for that
    Integrated 7.1 channel sound with front audio ports
    HP deluxe wireless keyboard and HP wireless optical mouse
    Norton 360 - 15 month <Im trying to stop pirating software :p

    I plan on upgrading the graphics card down the road when I want dual dvi.
     
  10. malcolm233391 macrumors member

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    I actually think its a pretty good deal for a 980X configuration. I was trying to build a 980X PC on Newegg and it would always come to 2k. I might actually go for the HPE-190t.


    HP Pavilion Elite HPE-190t customizable Desktop PC

    * Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    * Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-980X six-core Extreme Edition [3.33GHz, 1.5MB L2 + 12MB shared L3 cache]
    * 9GB DDR3-1066MHz SDRAM [5 DIMMs]
    * FREE UPGRADE! 1.5TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive from 1TB
    * 1GB ATI Radeon HD 5570 [DVI, HDMI, DP,VGA adapter]
    * Blu-ray player & Lightscribe SuperMulti DVD burner
    * Wireless-N LAN card
    * 15-in-1 memory card reader, 1 USB, 1394, audio
    * No TV Tuner
    * Integrated 7.1 channel sound with front audio ports
    * No speakers
    * HP multimedia keyboard and HP optical mouse

    Price: $2,339.99
    PC instant rebate: –$400.00
    Price after rebate: 1,939.99
     
  11. gsilbers macrumors newbie

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    well 1st thing is 1st.

    macpros have a different cpu. they yuse the intel x55xx series which if u built your own pc the price difference would not be that great compared to a mac pro. each of those cpu is around 100o each. so when folks write that macs are over priced , yes they are but not by that much. certainly not $1k and more!
    maybe by 200-300, which im very happy to pay for a good OS and good quality.

    with that said, the intel i7 series is almost identical to the cpu's the mac pros use. but only in a quad core configuraiton because you cannot do an 8 core i7-9xx. the xeons are for "servers" and thus, the architecture is the same that of the i7-series but with the added benefit of being coupled with another xeon for 8core computing.

    so if u are going for an 4core then this hp sounds good. im thinking of buying it but not sure yet. for $2k i get a i7-930 and 24gb of RAM! and a 10k HD!.

    if i tried building one myself with tthe components i deem good, it will go for a grand more. so im still trying to get more feedback from users on how this puppy performs and the downsides.

    besides custom mobo which maybe u wont be able to upgrade the cpu and the bloatware from W7.. id like to know how this sytem handles 24gb of ram. and if anything else is off.
     
  12. Umbongo macrumors 601

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    Not sure where you are getting your pricing from as compared to the two base Mac Pro models you can build a system with similar specs/performance for $1,500 less and you can order from Dell for $1,000 less including 3 years warranty.
     
  13. bluesteel macrumors 6502

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    a $6000 mac pro will have two six core processors, 12 cores, not just one six core. and those processors will be server grade Xeon type.
     
  14. goMac macrumors 603

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    Yeah, this is comparable to the $2500 Mac Pro in the next release. This machine is equivalent to the current 4 core version.
     
  15. rajbonham macrumors 6502

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    All of which means jack s*%t right now. Until the new Mac Pro is released in 2010, er, 2011, uh, I mean probably sometime in the next decade, all of that means nothing. I'll believe it when I see it.

    Sorry, but Apple has really gotten under my skin with this Mac Pro stuff. I need a new Mac Pro and I will be making money off of the system. I will NOT be making enough money to justify overpaying $1,000+ for outdated processors, etc. though.

    I understand it may not be Apple's fault for the apparent processor shortage, but they could at least have the courtesy to mark down their outdated systems right now. It's Apple though, that will never happen.

    Okay, my rant for today is over. :)
     
  16. bluesteel macrumors 6502

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    agreed, similar scenario here. the mac pro secrecy toward the pro market isn't cool.
     
  17. rajbonham macrumors 6502

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    Yep, and people will try to argue that by being so secret Apple can sell more of their current models before the update. When dealing with high powered workstations like the Mac Pro, I believe this just doesn't hold true.

    Most users of the Mac Pro system are "professionals" of some sort. I hate to say it, but when professionals are looking for a product, I think they tend to research it a little more than your average consumer. Since this is the case, it is much more difficult to push an outdated model on a Mac Pro customer, especially when near a possible update.

    All in all, I'm just saying Apple should just release some information on the Mac Pro update, because we aren't going to buy their outdated crap-ola whether they keep us in the dark or not.
     
  18. akadmon macrumors 68020

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    Jeeze, just buy the damn HP already! You come here bitching and moaning like a guy that goes into a Bentley dealership only to yap on an on about how he can get a top of the line BMW for less than half the price of a Bentley :rolleyes:

    Mac Pros, like Bentleys, are for people who can afford them :)
     
  19. snouter macrumors 6502a

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    lol, yeah, Apple would NEVER do that!
     
  20. juliancs macrumors 6502

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    As oppose to a GT 120?
     

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