What if Apple Partnered with Seiko?

Discussion in 'Apple Watch' started by parseckadet, Jan 20, 2015.

  1. parseckadet macrumors 6502a


    Dec 13, 2010
    Denver, CO
    Not sure if this has been discussed already, but the idea just occurred to me that Apple should either license from, or flat out partner with, Seiko to use their Kinetic technology. Hell, Apple could just flat out buy Seiko.

    For those who are unfamiliar, Seiko Kinetic watches are quartz based. However, instead of using a normal watch battery they convert the mechanical movement of the watch while on the wrist into electrical energy. The energy is stored in a battery, so the watch continues to function once taken off. I believe it's enough to keep the watch going even while sitting in a drawer for a few months.

    I would think Apple would be able to find a way to use this technology to extend the battery life of the Apple Watch. I doubt it would be several months given the power demands, but if it was enough to add even just half a day I think that would be a big win.
  2. fousfous macrumors regular

    Jan 11, 2015
    No, there are no many energy with this system and the Watch will consume many more energy.
  3. 0007776 Suspended


    Jul 11, 2006
    The Apple watch will take way too much power for that kind of charging to have a noticeable increase in battery life. My guess is at most you'd get a couple minutes extra each day if that.
  4. Technodynamic macrumors 6502


    Jul 25, 2012
    good thought, and I'm sure Apple engineers experimented with it already most likely. It would add bulk and not much 'juice' to what the Apple watch needs most likely.

    Perhaps an entrepreneur could make a kinetic + solar strap as an add on wrist band. That might be slick. Kinetic part could live on the bottom of the band.
  5. Exile714 macrumors 6502a

    Jan 14, 2015
    The extreme difference in power consumption notwithstanding, there's another problem with Seiko's self-winding watches: they don't last long.

    My Seiko died three ago, after being worn for five. The capacitor stopped holding a charge. This is not tech that is ready for regular watches, let alone power-sucking wrist-computers.
  6. Tanegashima macrumors 6502

    Jun 23, 2009
    There's nothing to it.

    It's just a generator that trickle-charges a battery or capacitor.
  7. b0fh666 macrumors 6502a


    Oct 12, 2012
    citizen has it's eco-drive (solar cell) going for 20 or more years now... could be a viable alternative to change the entire bezel to a solar panel :)
  8. Piggie macrumors G3


    Feb 23, 2010
    The human body generates so much power from such small amounts of food.
    You just think what a body can generate movement wise with just say 1 bar of chocolate. It's a shame this super efficient engine cannot be drawn upon to power a wearable device.
  9. dukebound85 macrumors P6


    Jul 17, 2005
    5045 feet above sea level
    THIS. same happened to me. You think you never need a battery.....well you just need a new capacitor
  10. Vundu macrumors 65816


    Jun 10, 2009
    Manchester, UK
    Self winding and Kinetic are two different things.
  11. Julien macrumors G4


    Jun 30, 2007
    1) The amount of power produced by a kinetic system would only be a negligible supplement to the power requirements of a smart watch.

    2) The space required for the mechanics would significantly increase the depth of any smart watch used in.

    3) Apple is a pure electronics compony and won't use kludgy mechanical systems in there products.
  12. Piggie macrumors G3


    Feb 23, 2010
    Well, it's now 2015.

    Wonder why Apple STILL fits mechanical hard drives in iMacs ?
    Then charges customers double the market value to have a SSD instead.

    2015 Apple need to get with the times, and scrap spinning mechanical system hard drives in their iMac computers.

    Hell, I don't have one hard drive in my PC anymore.

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