What If Samsung Took Over Android

Zito Abroad

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Many know Samsung had a chance to buy Android back in 2004, instead they passed and Google bought Android on 2005. So fast forward to today, what if Samsung took over now. Some feel like Android OS is being neglected by Google, with Android 11 being a sign of that. So what if Google didn't sell Android, but instead, partnered with Samsung and let Samsung take over advancing Android. In my opinion, I think Android would truly advance at a faster rate than it is now with Google. Thoughts?
 

velocityg4

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If anything I'd want someone like Canonical to take over leadership or some other Linux dev. As they'd likely change Android so you don't need a specific build for your phone. Instead have it auto select drivers on install. Getting rid of the need to run junk laden manufacturer distros.

Which I'd think would be great as there are plenty of phones which would still work well but get left behind by their manufacturers. Along with all the phones which get long update delays. Really now after a year or two you have to hope your model gets picked up by LineageOS or some other third party distro.

As for Samsung. I just can't see them putting forth the effort. They are a hardware company. If Samsung wanted to do Android. Wouldn't they just start contributing more to the AOSP or make their own fork?
 

TiggrToo

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Out there...way out there
If anything I'd want someone like Canonical to take over leadership or some other Linux dev. As they'd likely change Android so you don't need a specific build for your phone. Instead have it auto select drivers on install. Getting rid of the need to run junk laden manufacturer distros.

Which I'd think would be great as there are plenty of phones which would still work well but get left behind by their manufacturers. Along with all the phones which get long update delays. Really now after a year or two you have to hope your model gets picked up by LineageOS or some other third party distro.

As for Samsung. I just can't see them putting forth the effort. They are a hardware company. If Samsung wanted to do Android. Wouldn't they just start contributing more to the AOSP or make their own fork?
Canonical? Oh dear dog, no.

I still won't personally forgive then for the debacle that was Unity and Mir.
 

ian87w

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Who knows what would have happened in that alternate timeline. Samsung definitely knows a thing or two about branding, and they will want their brand on Android. Eg. When Samsung created the Nexus S, they called it Nexus S instead of Nexus 2 because they didn't want to be number two (after HTC).

The question is, how does Samsung feel about their competitors licensing Android? Samsung could've just let AOSP rot out and keep all the new features and developments for themselves. Ie. AOSP will becoming more bare bones (just the basic framework) and Android will become more fragmented than ever as each OEMs are forced to develop their own improvements.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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I think Samsung would do an excellent job controlling Android. A huge part of Android's growth and implementation of features is because of Samsung.
 

cuzo

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I think it would be a good move, I kinda feel google doesn't care much anymore.. pixel failures, hardware failures...

Google can't compete with IOS in terms of smoothness or likeness, they have to throw the book at the hardware to move the product samsung is probably better at that than any other company.

I forgot what happened to tizen, I know at one point sammy wanted to seperate from google.
 

jamezr

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I think it would be a good move, I kinda feel google doesn't care much anymore.. pixel failures, hardware failures...

Google can't compete with IOS in terms of smoothness or likeness, they have to throw the book at the hardware to move the product samsung is probably better at that than any other company.

I forgot what happened to tizen, I know at one point sammy wanted to seperate from google.
Have to disagree here...I feel like the Android on the Pixel models has the same kind of user experience as IOS on iPhones. It is a blend of software designed to fit the hardware. Then name one phone maker that does not have failures?
Just look in the forums here on MR and you will find a great deal of failures from Apple. Every manufacturer has failures.
 

cuzo

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Have to disagree here...I feel like the Android on the Pixel models has the same kind of user experience as IOS on iPhones. It is a blend of software designed to fit the hardware. Then name one phone maker that does not have failures?
Just look in the forums here on MR and you will find a great deal of failures from Apple. Every manufacturer has failures.
It's the lack of consumer growth that's the issue here, I'm not saying google doesn't have decent hardware but the features aren't really worth talking about for most people. We can probably say we talk more about google assistant that most of the features google puts on the phone.

Now it seems google is trying to get more into the lower end market with great sub 350 phones, they tried the high end and realize they can't compete with samsung. We gotta be honest here, if android was so great with all that bad arse hardware why do they still seem to struggle getting good app developers when apple screws so many developers over?

The software simply can't compete with IOS on a large scale, if it's not bad arse hardware, curved screens, oleds, big phones or whatever android simply has no name.

Google is in charge of android, it just seems they quit a while ago and gave up on competiting.

Look at the palm pre for my older heads, if it has capable hardware and less bugs who knows where it could have been.

You can't tell me google can't make a more nicer OS than android, they have the money to do anything.

2 year updates can't compete with 5 years for IOS, i know the OS basically rewrites the whole system per update but if google is serious they need to figure something out. Samsung at least shows it tries every year.
 

jamezr

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It's the lack of consumer growth that's the issue here, I'm not saying google doesn't have decent hardware but the features aren't really worth talking about for most people. We can probably say we talk more about google assistant that most of the features google puts on the phone.

Now it seems google is trying to get more into the lower end market with great sub 350 phones, they tried the high end and realize they can't compete with samsung. We gotta be honest here, if android was so great with all that bad arse hardware why do they still seem to struggle getting good app developers when apple screws so many developers over?

The software simply can't compete with IOS on a large scale, if it's not bad arse hardware, curved screens, oleds, big phones or whatever android simply has no name.

Google is in charge of android, it just seems they quit a while ago and gave up on competiting.

Look at the palm pre for my older heads, if it has capable hardware and less bugs who knows where it could have been.

You can't tell me google can't make a more nicer OS than android, they have the money to do anything.

2 year updates can't compete with 5 years for IOS, i know the OS basically rewrites the whole system per update but if google is serious they need to figure something out. Samsung at least shows it tries every year.
I disagree...Google has the better facial biometric than IOS and a number of software features that enhance the user experience. Better digital assistant...better facial biometrics and better camera. Better browser...better Maps

Then I think you are lumping Google in as means to generalize Android as a whole. That is not accurate as Google doesn't control (nor should they) what other phone makers do with Android once they apply their unique skins.

Then the hardware other phone makers are producing is better than what Apple puts out. You might not like curved displays but other might love them. That is the greatness of Android as a whole. The options are open to buy something other companies might not produce.

Android as a whole has more features than IOS does. As a matter of fact most of the new IOS features previewed at WWDC have been on Android for years. So it would seem Android more than competes imho.


This part is quite amusing to me especially after WWDC when most of the new features have been on Android for years. Last time I looked Apple was the most profitable company in the world. With cash reserves more than most countries. So why aren't they wowing us for with a new operating system? Instead they have been adding features already found on Android. Why can't they come up with something new?
You can't tell me google can't make a more nicer OS than android, they have the money to do anything
I am an Apple fan and my 11 Pro Max is my daily driver. I use it more than any other phone.
But to be honest the Pixel 4XL is smoother with less hardware.

Then don't get me started on older iPhones getting updates longer..it is well known Apple throttles older phones to get people to upgrade. It is their best interest to update older phones as they know it will lead to upgrades.
Then the core Android apps are updated through the Google Playstore separately of OS upgrades. You can have Android 10 and STILL get the features of Android 11 on the Google core apps.
But I do agree Apple has a great software distribution apparatus. It bugs you until you do the upgrade :)

I am thankful for Android as a whole. If not for Android phone makers pushing Apple...who knows where the hardware and software would be?
 

GrumpyMom

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What ever happened to Fuschia? Or however it’s spelled. Sorry, never learned to spell that word and my autocorrect doesn’t care, apparently.
 
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