What is Android going to do when iPad/iPhone is able to multi-task?

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  1. VanWilder1313 macrumors newbie

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    I've seen several commercials over the past couple of days saying how great the Droid is because it can "multi-task like a mother..." I'm interested what kind of ad campaign they are going to come up with next. Is it just me, or can everyone else not wait til Apple is able to silence all the nay sayers out there? :cool:
     
  2. James L macrumors 6502a

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    Why is another company advertising the merits of their product a bad thing? I prefer Apple products for the most part, but if other companies advertise their products successfully I say all the power to them. Why would it effect me one way or the other?
     
  3. lilo777 macrumors 603

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    It's easy. By the time Apple releases it's own limited mutitasking, Android will be able to claim a lead in the number of Apps.
     
  4. MiguelS macrumors regular

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    Apple will multi task, but will the users like it? That is still up in the air.


    Also, Android with better 3g coverage is > than an iPhone with ATT Coverage. At least where I live.
     
  5. leomac08 macrumors 68020

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    Android stock will fail....and another palm down the drain:D
     
  6. suss2it macrumors regular

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    No, frankly I don't give a crap about the "nay sayers". I just can't wait to be able to multi task on my iPhone.
     
  7. GfPQqmcRKUvP macrumors 68040

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    What can you not do on the iPhones limited multitasking that you can do on android?
     
  8. mbell75 macrumors 6502

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    Well with my Hero, I can download several apps from the market while browsing the internet and replying to IMs while Pandora runs. Cant do that on an iPhone. Even 4.0 wont be true multitasking. It will be pause state, resume. That means that you cant start downloading something and then leave it and do something else and let it finish. It will pause that download until you make it your active app again, then it will resume downloading. That is not really multitasking.
     
  9. Jinkst macrumors 6502

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    Let's see how it actually runs once the final release of 4.0 comes out before saying things about how well it's implemented shall we?
     
  10. dvrk547 Guest

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    - You can download apps while browsing the internet and listening to Pandora (on iPhone OS 4.0)
    - Apps can continue downloading or doing whatever they want for an extended period of time before being suspended. It's called "task finishing." (Right now it's limited at 10 mins, which may be less than that if the app uses much resources. But I think Apple will come up with an algorithm that allows apps to run indefinitely based on their usage.)
    - Activities that can continue indefinitely are voip, background audio, and location-based event

    http://developer.apple.com/technologies/iphone/whats-new.html#multitasking

    Overall, I think average users will like the "limited" multitasking better than "real" multitasking if it can prove that it gives better user experience in term of speed and battery life. And I think Google is too smart to advertise that their phones can do "real" multitasking... because nobody cares (except geeks) :cool:
     
  11. doublebullout macrumors member

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    My preference for Android over iPhoneOS has nothing to do with multitasking. First, Sprint is far cheaper than AT&T for a comparable plan. Second, Android is much easier to customize and root than iPhoneOS. Third, the widgets in Android (like Pure Calendar and SenseUI e-mail) allow me to be much more productive during my day than iPhoneOS, webOS, WinMo, or even BlackberryOS. Fourth, Google cloud syncing is free; MobileMe isn't. None of this will change with iPhoneOS 4.

    Now, HSAT, I am curious to see if I can replace many of the PIM functions I do on my Hero with iPad apps like the Calendar, Contacts, and Things. I don't look at the iPad as a big iPod Touch -- to me it looks like I could use it as a big Palm Pilot.
     
  12. vw195 macrumors 6502

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    Maybe they should show side by side screen shots of a website. its painful to look at an iphones screen after looking a beautiful 800x480 wvga screen
     
  13. bbtrinet macrumors member

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    Android doesn't offer full multi-tasking either.
    http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html

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    On Android, apps are suspended when they are no longer visible to the user. Suspended means the app is still in memory, but it is frozen. No processing or event handling happens. If the system needs additional memory, the least-frequently used apps that are suspended (in the background) have their state saved to persistent storage and are then killed, freeing up their memory. To the user though, those apps still appear to be in the background. When they are brought to the foreground to be used again, they are restarted and passed an object containing their last state so they can be restored to look exactly as the user left them.

    If an app requires processing while in the background, then it must also have a service component. A service on Android is like a separate small application that runs without a user interface in the background (though not actually a separate application). The service has a server/client relationship with the app. It performs whatever action an app needs it to continue performing should the app be suspended. For example, the service might handle all uploading, so if an app is placed in the background while an upload is in progress, the upload continues. Or, like Pandora, the service might handle all network streaming and audio output with the app only acting as the front-end controls. Unlike apps, services are not suspended or killed (except in extreme low-memory conditions).
     
  14. doublebullout macrumors member

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    While technically accurate, such distinctions are essentially meaningless to the user. The fact is that developers are free to create Android apps that work in the background. The only thing clunky about Android's multitasking ability is the mechanism for switching between running apps.
     
  15. 4DThinker macrumors 68020

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    There is no android stock. It is open source. It's also not a phone company, it is an Operating System that is free to use by any phone company. As such it provides the best competition for the iPhone that exists, and that competition is EVERY android running phone not just one. Android already has multi-tasking. It won't hurt it a bit as Apple tries to catch up in functionality.
     
  16. bigjnyc macrumors 603

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    They're going to make more testosterone-filled manly man commercials :rolleyes:
     
  17. ippikiokami macrumors regular

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    Hire the old spice guy? :D

    What is the point of these post anyways? Is it just to reaffirm your choice of an iPhone? If you have one and it works great for you that's awesome. I have one and I love it even if android, webos, magicos, superos, could help me rule the world i wouldn't love the iPhone any less.

    Just like iPhone OS is constantly improving Android can improve too. And that my folks (competition) is good for of all us regardless which phone you have..
     
  18. bbtrinet macrumors member

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    I agree - but it depends on the users.

    'spec people' like to hear that certain bullet-points are hit. Such as multi-tasking, better processors, larger memory, etc.

    'regular people' care more about whether it works, regardless of specs.

    The iPhone/iPad OSes in use now enable the following multi-tasking that most people use day-to-day:
    * Listen to music in the background while using other apps, like surfing the web
    * download apps while using other apps
    * allow me to receive texts while using other apps
    * let me receive emails while not using the phone

    Most non-iPhone users think that an iPhone can't do that stuff above because they've been told that iPhones don't multi-task.

    One major thing missing is allowing something like Yahoo instant messenger or tweets to come in and resume an app while you're doing something else. This is coming in OS 4.0.

    You don't need your phone or tablet device to do such things as search for E.T. in the background while you're doing foreground things. If you do, you need a real computer. Most people realize this - 'spec people' don't.
     
  19. ipoddin macrumors 6502a

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    Android is still a far more customizable os with widgets, themes, icons and sounds. You still can change any of that on os 4 without having to jailbreak it.
     
  20. vw195 macrumors 6502

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    1) As long as listening to the music is not through slacker or pandora
    2) Apps from the app store yes, but no downloading from mobile safari
    3) push notifications dont work wel for me on ipad always
     
  21. 4DThinker macrumors 68020

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    What is Android going to do? Start calling the iPhone an Android clone. :D
     
  22. darngooddesign macrumors G3

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    Android will continue to add features at a faster pace than Apple.
     
  23. mj1108 macrumors 6502a

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    That's really all that needs to be said.

    It's stupid, no offense OP, to create a thread to make you feel better about the choice of phone/OS you made.

    Competition is a great thing as it pushes both Apple and Google to make their OS's better. In the end, us (the consumers) are the winners. And yes, both the iPhone OS and Android are great OS's.....and this is coming from someone who own an iPad and a rooted Nexus One. :D
     
  24. Godzirra! macrumors regular

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    keep improving, keep growing at a massive rate, have more phones of higher quality than apple's, and take over in marketshare. Plus, their apps will reach apples pretty soon. its an awesome system, i love how its made to customize. Apple will change their ways soon enough, android and windows phone 7 are both going to be pretty huge competitors.
     
  25. tuckerstevenson macrumors member

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    like many have said. nothing is going to happen to Android, they will be competing with the iPhone and Apple for the foreseeable future. This means only good things for the consumers, unless you are one who is easily drawn into petty "hey my .... is bigger" arguments. Two of my friends have Droids, and numerous friends have iPhones. The Droid is quite badass, and I'm glad the iPhone is catching up as far as some of the features, it will be useful. I'll be in an interesting spot in about 3 months. My two year iPhone contract will be up and the new iPhone should be about a month old by then, or maybe just coming out. I will definitely be weighing the benefits of sticking with the iPhone, though I do feel like AT&T will try to offer better pricing on iPhone plans since so many smartphones out there, now have access to better, cheaper service. But the Droid is a tempting alternative. I just think the overall user experience is more streamlined and just feels more secure to me using the Apple OS. MobileMe, won't stay this expensive forever. And to trump all of these arguments, I bought Apple share in 2006 when it was at 80. It's now trading between 275 and 280. Apple has paid for every computer, laptop, iPod, iPhone, case, charger, whatever I've ever purchased from them, at least a few times over. Apple has continually scratched my back, so I will most likely continue to scratch theres. In the meantime, I'll try and avoid those who think they have something to prove based upon what cell phone they carry.
     

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