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What is Apple's worst product of all time?

Originally posted by Wardofsky
The Lisa project.

Steve put all his energy in and he boo'ed at it in the end after he started the Mac.
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As a technology experiment, it was an awsome/cool project.

Sucked in the delivery as a product though, way too expensive and the drives were a bad choice.

Look at some of the technology it introduced, some of it still hasn't become mainstream yet. Intoduced stuff way too far in advance of the market.

The Mac 128k was a pale copy... But much easier to relate to.
 
Originally posted by Flynnstone
A business bomb yes.
A technological bomb, NO.
I still use my Newton 2100. Its still great after 5 years. I show it to people and the can't believe what it can do.
My Palms are lame in comparison.

Palm understood to get the price under $500 so that its easily expensed was the key. But you could also say that the Newton got the ball rolling. Perhaps didn't hang in long enough. ( All academic anyways ):D
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yeah too many people are bad mouthing products because they didnt sell. The Newton, The Lisa, The Cube were amazing computers that are still worth lots of money today because people realize how useful and important they are.

How can anyone badmouth the lisa. first persona computer with a gui. more advanced than even the mac os that followed. only thing wrong with it was its price. they still sell for over $10k because they are so important in the history of the pc.

same with the cube . people still use cubes because they are so versatile and upgradable. again only thing wrong with it was its price. no room for it between the imac and the powermac.

and the newton was so ahead of its time that its still puts modern handhelds to shame. price and the fact that apple was inventing a new market was the problem. not anything wrong with the product.
 
I'm still using the hockey puck mouse to this day ---- BEST mouse ever made!

I wish they would come out with an optical version thats just a bit fatter (would be perfect for my round hand)

and for the 5300 suck-ups......I never did say that my 5300 burnt down - I just said that it sucked as a computer
 
Originally posted by HasanDaddy
......I never did say that my 5300 burnt down - I just said that it sucked as a computer
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Because it did. My father has one because he had a 530 and it was great. Well so far with the 5300 he has had to repair the damn screen hing because it was cracking and no matter how much he babied it (trust me he's anal about these things) it finally broke off. So he bolted it together with some metal plates. He has the bionic Powerbook. Well also nearly every connector on the thing has finally failed and he had to open it up and resolder all the what turned out to be cold solder joints from the factory. There's more like how bad the screens sucked on them and how piggishly slow they were even when they were released and how poor there battery life was etc., etc.. In any case they plain and simply SUCKED!!!
 
I'm going to have to cast my vote in with the hockey puck mouse. Most unapproachable, unergonomic, unfriendly, aesthetic driven, abysmally un-Apple, Apple product ever made.

That abject failure was only compounded by another product redesign that was made simultaneously: the flat keyboard, with half sized function keys. I don't know what simian was in charge of the products human factors and interfaces department at the time, but I hope they got at the very least a severe Thai caning.

Basic usability principle number 1: Fitts Law, which states that the time to acquire a target is a function of the distance to and size of the target. So what they did was pick the very keys that are farthest from one's reach and reduced their effective target size. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
 
I'd have to agree that the whole LC line was pretty lame.
*And* all those pre power-pc powerbooks (520, 540? I forget the names).
Black "Mac TV", Performa 5200 (last NuBus). What about those notebooks with the docking stations? (2800 or something?)
Never used one of them, but they seemed odd.

Also... does anyone remember the all-in-one G3 (beige)
that was released for the education market only
(and completely flopped) just before the first iMac came out?

That to me was a bad product. Probably a relict of
Gil Amelio who dragged Apple down into its darkest days...
what a loser.

Other than that... I've just been thinking about all the Apple
products I've used over the years... printers, scanners, digital cams,
monitors, laptops, handhelds, desktops... and most of them have been
wonderful products.
 
Darn, is everybody surfing Apple-History?!

I can't get to the site. Is it down because everyone over here is over there now? It won't load...

But what'll be my vote? I guess it's gonna be the original keyboard that came with the Mac 128k. Horrible; no numeric keypad, no function keys, heck, not even an escape key. It worked, sure, but it's not a think I'd want to have back. The keyboard that came with my bondi iMac came close to being just as bad, but that old 'board is just plain horrible.

What else? Oh, Mac OS 8, of course. Apple released 8.1 just a few weeks after the initial 8 release, because of all the bugs.

(What; Apple and bugs?!... :)

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Originally posted by Flynnstone
A business bomb yes.
A technological bomb, NO.
I still use my Newton 2100. Its still great after 5 years. I show it to people and the can't believe what it can do.
My Palms are lame in comparison.

Palm understood to get the price under $500 so that its easily expensed was the key. But you could also say that the Newton got the ball rolling. Perhaps didn't hang in long enough. ( All academic anyways ):D
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Is it just me or did he not say the newton was the bomb, not a bomb...?
 
What is Apple's worst product of all time?

.Mac and AppleCare!

hahah j/k :D .. just .Mac

Originally posted by Bengt77 But what'll be my vote? I guess it's gonna be the original keyboard that came with the Mac 128k. Horrible; no numeric keypad, no function keys, heck, not even an escape key. It worked, sure, but it's not a think I'd want to have back.
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The reason the original Mac128k did have all that was because Apple thought the mouse was just too good. Didn't know if you knew that...

I'd vote for Newton OS 1.0 - absolutely useless. Nice lag when using that idiotic typewriter, gave me motion sickness in 5 minutes.

The Duo's were pretty crappy too, or at least the keyboards were. Used to have to bang on them like bubbles the chimp to get anything done.

How about OS 10.0 .. that was pretty lame too.

I like the 5300cs (hence the name) but only for the form factor. I've never had a problem with mine and I've had 2. Keeping my fingers crossed.
 
I liked the 5300cs, those are the laptops they loan out at my school. they are good machines, although the one i tried did not have a browser installed, so i couldnt use the modem it had on it. I liked the keyboard, gave a very satisfying tickitytack sensation. A very capable machine if you ask me.
 
Originally posted by metrolotus
EMAC - the best way to burn down a house. Emac
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The early eMacs were problematic with videocard problems, but they never were a fire hazard. They are overweight, but believe it or not there is an eMac at my usergroup with 128 MB of RAM that you wouldn't know it even though it is running Mac OS X. It is the 700 Mhz CD-RW model. You'd think it would be slower, but its even faster than the Flat Panel iMac CD-RW model with 128 MB of RAM. I did upgrade the Flat Panel to 384 MB of RAM and that certainly made a difference, but the eMac at least on some motherboards was well optimized for X.
 
Re: Worsetsts

Originally posted by vniow
Nobody here disses my clamshell and gets away with it.
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Oh yeah, well what you gonna do about it??? Huh, huh, huh?!

Originally posted by Chilton
She likes her 600Mhz Green clamshell.
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What'd you do, overclock it? Wanted to get better gaming performance? j/k

Oh, the two worst Apple products ever were the hockey-puck mouse and Mac OS X 10.0. Wait, let me explain...

The mouse was bad because it did not fit well, although it did a lot of things well and Apple should pride itself for what it did right. The mouse looked great with the all-in-one iMac. It's cord was the right length to reach from the side of the keyboard into perfect reach; it was not too short or too long. And the mouse is a really fluid like mouse, almost seems optical to me, at times. The mouse has not required cleaning in the 3 or 4 years I've been using it and works great, except for it's darn shape.

Mac OS X 10.0 was rushed to the shelves of stores because Apple wanted to introduce its revolutionary OS before MS introduced XP. 10.0 had a serious performance problem, to be understated. It was introduced with little support for applications and threw out the stable, developer-supported, so-called "classic" Mac operating system. And I'm not saying later versions of X are included with this "worst of" title, just 10.0.
 
My choices.

Ya, I agree with most of the poster's here.

#1: OS X 10.0. Should have been called Public Beta 2.

#2: Puck mouse. Cool to look at, a pain to use. And needed constant cleaning. I don't understand why they kept it around so long. Especially including it with their "pro" towers (Blue & White). This was designed for schoolkids.

#3: Compact keyboard. Worked great, but again, designed for schoolkids. Fine on an iMac, but not for a "pro" tower.
 
Uh oh!

If you think about it, Apple produced us - the Mac fanciers and fanatics - too. I hope we aren't their worst product!
 
iBook

If you touch it, its dirty.

Maybe they can make a sealed one. Then throw it into the dishwasher every night to clean it.
Probably only get washed once a week (if lucky) with the bachelors :D
 
Originally posted by springscansing
iChat.
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i'll second this. that product is the most mediocre piece of software i have ever seen. it's not bad bad, it's mediocre. they screwed up so many basic features it's insane. it works, which is the problem. if it didn't work, they would have fix it. as it is, people who are away show up as idle, you can't see all of long away messages... it's just so buggy and crappy. and what's worse--every other chat program has some defect that makes it even more annoying for me to use, such as adium's lack of support for viewing away messages at all without IMing a person.
 
I'd say it's either Applework or System 7. Mac OS X Server v1.0 was pretty horrible too. The worst hardware in my opinion is the rev. 1 blue and white. I owned one, and worked at a lab that had a ton of them, and they are all horrible (lots of hard drive corruption, handles breaking off, etc..). The rev. 2 blue and whites on the other hand are fine.

To all the people dissing the LCII and Performas, I'd have to say they are good computers, not great, but I still have friends who's LCIIs and Performas are running, and my IIcx and Mac Classic are still going.
 
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