yzedf said:
go say that to the forums in www.cubeowner.com
wtf are you talking about He is talking proformance wise
I kill your cat
I was playing halo on my cube just this morning and it is very playable
any mac with a geoport modem gets my vote
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What is Apple's worst product of all time?
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go say that to the forums in www.cubeowner.com
wtf are you talking about He is talking proformance wise
I kill your cat
I was playing halo on my cube just this morning and it is very playable
any mac with a geoport modem gets my vote
yzedf said:
hmm lack of expandibility?
my cube: radon 7500 dual 500MHz g4, 1.5gigs o'ram and a 7200rpm 120gig HD they are every bit expandble as a g4 tower with an exeption of pci and extra hard drive bays which hardly anyone used.
people have upgraded them with radeon 9800's dual 1.2Ghz g4's
the power button thing was mainly because of static building up in the enclosior you just have to touch ground (radiator or such) and the cube and your away.
cracks in the case yes i have one but it took me long enough to find it only the most perfectionist person would care
how can you say lack of a fan is a bad thing?
the bracket is for future revisions that never arrived and it is jolly usefull when installing an UPGRADE
it's beutifull well desighned fast upgradeable dont bash it if you havent had first hand experience
joshuawaire said:I vote for the keyboard that shipped w/ the hockey puck mouse. The iMac and Powermac G3 keyboard was awful, it was practically a notebook keyboard----far worse than the innocent hockey puckAlthough, it did have that cool Power On button
I still have my original mini-keyboard that came with my b&w and it still works fine after almost 5 years. the puck mouse died after about 2 years. I never really used the buttons it was missing anyway. its not an unreliable product at all.
Jonathan Amend said:
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Microsoft Bob was a Microsoft product that was to have a Mac port - not an Apple product.
And yes, it was awful - especially that MS tried to Copyright the proper noun "Bob" in the process.
patrick0brien said:
I didn't say it was an Apple product. I just mentioned it because both Microsoft Bob and the Pippin are horrible failures that are remembered by few.
I totally agree with the round shaped ball mouse. short cord, constant cleaning, hard to hold, they (apple) were just trying to make it show out of the crowd and this went to far.
I hope you know that cord was meant to be plugged into the keyboard... So if you kept your mouse next to the keyboard it's not entirely that short.
My only beef with Apple mice is the price. I don't expect to play over $30 for a mouse (and even then it's pushing it). I don't mind the one button and all, it fulfills the idea of simplicity at it's finest. The price still buggers me.
I'm still holding the TAM in first just because of the price. It had to be a joke right? It was a desktop with a trackpad for crying out loud.
TAM
My only beef with Apple mice is the price. I don't expect to play over $30 for a mouse (and even then it's pushing it). I don't mind the one button and all, it fulfills the idea of simplicity at it's finest. The price still buggers me.
I'm still holding the TAM in first just because of the price. It had to be a joke right? It was a desktop with a trackpad for crying out loud.
TAM
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No one has mentioned the cool looking Apple display that can't be hooked up to most computers. I don't remember its name, but it was a CRT and the back was clear plastic, so you could see all of its components. I think it was 17". But it is an analog unit that uses an ADC plug. It will only work with Macs with ACD plugs. Not powerbooks - it doesn't work with the dvi-adc adapter. Not pcs, or macs with VGA or only DVI out - the adapters just don't work. It is a beautiful, but useless, monitor
hmmfe said:
That's ridiculous!! You can say others had the opportunity to use wireless, which is granted, as 802.11b is just a standard (so anyone can use it), but Apple was the first company to use it as a main part of their systems.
How else can you explain Intel's 2003 marketing of Centrino? wow, had no one ever realized wireless had been around for 4 years? That commercials made me puke. Intel brought us wireless. Thanks, Intel!
In my opinion, by far the worst product was the IIfx. Not because of its performance, per se, but because of the price. It cost almost $11,000, and was all but obsolete within something like 6 months. My dad was one of the unfortunate ones who sprung for one.
Hemingray said:
However, for that one short moment, the Macintosh actually had a faster processor (in MHz) then the Intel world did. That alone was worth it.
It would be like if Apple was to have a 3.6 GHz G5 for $15,000. Yeah, no one could afford it, however it would give Apple bragging rights to the fastest processor in terms of MHz, something it has not had since the IIfx in 1990.
The thread's not dead Ned, The thread's not dead
Wow this is an old thread, it's been over a year since I've posted. Since I left the cushy IT job where I had three or four hours of internet time a night.
I see I pushed for the .mac/ iTools as the worst Apple product. At the time the fact iTools went from free to .mac paid service was still fresh.
I still think it's pretty horrible, maybe not as a product (I don't use it), but as how it seemed to be included with the OS. And then having to pay for a part of the OS annually. Well...Ok...I'm through complaining.
Wow this is an old thread, it's been over a year since I've posted. Since I left the cushy IT job where I had three or four hours of internet time a night.
I see I pushed for the .mac/ iTools as the worst Apple product. At the time the fact iTools went from free to .mac paid service was still fresh.
I still think it's pretty horrible, maybe not as a product (I don't use it), but as how it seemed to be included with the OS. And then having to pay for a part of the OS annually. Well...Ok...I'm through complaining.
yzedf said:
Hey! the cubes were awesome!
I would have to say that the G3 all in one was the worst.
Sol said:
Not to mention it made the loudest clicking sound of any mice I've ever used. Totally unusable at night when everyone else is sleeping nearby.
Here's my pics for "worst episode ever" from Apple:
1. The "hockey-puck" mouse - can you say, anti-ergonomic?
2. The entire Performa lineup - talk about hobbled.
3. System 7.x.x. - after Apple released its umpteenth revision (fixing some bugs and creating new ones in the process), we started calling it 7-point-"pi" in homage to the great unending integer. I know System 7 introduced some important features, but I believe System 8.x kicked its ass.
Just my $.02
1. The "hockey-puck" mouse - can you say, anti-ergonomic?
2. The entire Performa lineup - talk about hobbled.
3. System 7.x.x. - after Apple released its umpteenth revision (fixing some bugs and creating new ones in the process), we started calling it 7-point-"pi" in homage to the great unending integer. I know System 7 introduced some important features, but I believe System 8.x kicked its ass.
Just my $.02
What about the PowerBook 5300c? (The one that caught on fire) I'd have to say that was the worst. And some of the old PowerMac moniters. The ones with speakers on the sides, geez, I hated those.
I'm rather new to the Mac world, having bought my first G4 PowerMac in January 2003. So I don't have any real experience of these horrors except some dim memories of System 7.1 running on Colour Classics and LCIIs at school, and those are not happy memories.
Anyway, my vote goes to the awful "iMac" style minature flat keyboard and the de rigeur "puck" mouse. Those really held me back from Switching (before the term even cropped up in Apple Marketing Vernacular). Just the other day I was at an internet cafè using one of those awful flat "poxy orbs" and within 15 minutes my wrist was hurting. The keyboards were simply absurd, especially for someone such as myself who does an inordinate amount of typing etc.
It is only after the introduction of the Apple Pro mouse and the Apple Pro keyboard, and the removal of OS9, that I began to consider the Mac as a viable platform.
So that must be my hate-list: Puck, flat keyboard, and OS9 (and all 'Classic' OSes).
And now for the pedantic remark:
"Integer" means a "whole number". Since it is well known that Pi is not an integer because it has a decimal expansion, it is a real. In actual fact, it is an "irrational" (because it cannot be expressed as a ratio) transcendental number.
Anyway, my vote goes to the awful "iMac" style minature flat keyboard and the de rigeur "puck" mouse. Those really held me back from Switching (before the term even cropped up in Apple Marketing Vernacular). Just the other day I was at an internet cafè using one of those awful flat "poxy orbs" and within 15 minutes my wrist was hurting. The keyboards were simply absurd, especially for someone such as myself who does an inordinate amount of typing etc.
It is only after the introduction of the Apple Pro mouse and the Apple Pro keyboard, and the removal of OS9, that I began to consider the Mac as a viable platform.
So that must be my hate-list: Puck, flat keyboard, and OS9 (and all 'Classic' OSes).
And now for the pedantic remark:
FoxyKaye said:
"Integer" means a "whole number". Since it is well known that Pi is not an integer because it has a decimal expansion, it is a real. In actual fact, it is an "irrational" (because it cannot be expressed as a ratio) transcendental number.
If you want to go way back... i would say the III. Compared to the II+ it was a dog and never realy worked right. I guess that is why the went to the IIe and killed the line.
Ok, here goes, imho:
(1) the powermac 8500/180, which was a complete abomination, a piece of dung if there ever was. A defective motherboard basically prevented audio apps from working properly, and just try opening the box. You were almost guaranteed to slice your hand.
Almost left apple after that one.
(2) the apple laserwriters. remember them? About 4 times the price of the competition for the same product?
(3) the round mouse probably is the closest 3rd, since so many people had the "pleasure" of using one.
But i am still bitter over the 8500/180, as i had such high expectations for it, and it sucked completely. Had it like 6 months to a year before replacing it.
(1) the powermac 8500/180, which was a complete abomination, a piece of dung if there ever was. A defective motherboard basically prevented audio apps from working properly, and just try opening the box. You were almost guaranteed to slice your hand.
Almost left apple after that one.
(2) the apple laserwriters. remember them? About 4 times the price of the competition for the same product?
(3) the round mouse probably is the closest 3rd, since so many people had the "pleasure" of using one.
But i am still bitter over the 8500/180, as i had such high expectations for it, and it sucked completely. Had it like 6 months to a year before replacing it.
I once used a Performa...nothing too bad. Definatly not the best but not the worst either. I would vote for:
1. Hockey Puck Mouse. I never liked it, hard to use, and it only looked nice with the original iMacs.
2. The Power Mac 8000AV series. Ever tried upping the RAM in one of those? You needed to removed the motherboard. Smart move Apple...cut my fingers on that one.
3. The Cube and the Newton lines go under the "belly-flop" category but because I would like both of them, I do not consider them horrible products.
4. AIO (All in one) G3. It was an all-in-on G3 computer, beige, sold only to schools (the original eMac you might say), had 3 PCI slots but only BaseT-10 Ethernet. Also, they were really underpowered...233Mhz and 266Mhz. And they did not have SCSI hard drives...EIDE. The precursor to Ultra-ATA (what most PCs have now as well as the PowerMac G4s), EIDI had a slower transfer rate that (Ultra) ATA/33, as well as a slower transfer rate than SCSI hard drives. You can pick them up on ebay now...
1. Hockey Puck Mouse. I never liked it, hard to use, and it only looked nice with the original iMacs.
2. The Power Mac 8000AV series. Ever tried upping the RAM in one of those? You needed to removed the motherboard.
Smart move Apple...cut my fingers on that one. 3. The Cube and the Newton lines go under the "belly-flop" category but because I would like both of them, I do not consider them horrible products.
4. AIO (All in one) G3. It was an all-in-on G3 computer, beige, sold only to schools (the original eMac you might say), had 3 PCI slots but only BaseT-10 Ethernet. Also, they were really underpowered...233Mhz and 266Mhz. And they did not have SCSI hard drives...EIDE. The precursor to Ultra-ATA (what most PCs have now as well as the PowerMac G4s), EIDI had a slower transfer rate that (Ultra) ATA/33, as well as a slower transfer rate than SCSI hard drives. You can pick them up on ebay now...