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iPhone What is OpenSSH? Is it recommended?

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budmonster

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- I see everyone talking about OpenSSH and some even recommending that you install after you JB. What is the purpose of it, what would I use it for? Is is the same thing as MobileTerminal?

- Is Substrate Safe Mode v0.9.4000(no idea what it is) included in Cydia Substrate v0.9.5001? Whenever I installed Cydia Substrate v0.9.5001, Substrate Safe Mode seems to get installed along with it? And it seems that If I remove one the other one uninstalls also. Is this normal?

Thanks.
 
It's recommended for me as I need file system access and the ability to change permissions. Most people could probably get by with some other app on the phone like ifile or a program like diskaid.
 
budmonster said:
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- Is Substrate Safe Mode v0.9.4000(no idea what it is) included in Cydia Substrate v0.9.5001? Whenever I installed Cydia Substrate v0.9.5001, Substrate Safe Mode seems to get installed along with it? And it seems that If I remove one the other one uninstalls also. Is this normal?

Thanks.
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Substrate Safe Mode is a separate hack and it is very much required.
This is a prime example of the benefit for being a self starter and using Google.

Substrate Safe Mode allows the removal of a "bad" hack/tweak without requiring a full restore.

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2014/01/15/substrate-safe-mode-update/
 
budmonster said:
- I see everyone talking about OpenSSH and some even recommending that you install after you JB. What is the purpose of it, what would I use it for? Is is the same thing as MobileTerminal?

- Is Substrate Safe Mode v0.9.4000(no idea what it is) included in Cydia Substrate v0.9.5001? Whenever I installed Cydia Substrate v0.9.5001, Substrate Safe Mode seems to get installed along with it? And it seems that If I remove one the other one uninstalls also. Is this normal?

Thanks.
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yes, it's kind of the same as MobileTerminal. it's useful if say you want to run a command using SSH via USB because you can't get the device to the home screen

(and it is what semirestore for iOS 7 will be based on when it gets released)

and yes, it's normal for cydira substrate and substrate safe mode to be bundled together
 
Does OpenSSH protect the phone at all from hacking and what not? Should I just go ahead and install it? Is it the same thing as iFunBox, iExplorer, etc.
 
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OpenSSH combined with NetaTalk are what allow me to mount my iPhone as a hard drive and copy files to and from my Mac via WiFi.
 
budmonster said:
Does OpenSSH protect the phone at all from hacking and what not? Should I just go ahead and install it? Is it the same thing as iFunBox, iExplorer, etc.
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You must change your passwords if you use OpenSSH. I change both mobile and root passwords. The cydia homepage has a link to step by step instructions. Do not install it if you do not change the default passwords.

Installing this does not make your phone any safer from hackers.
 
Saurik, the developer of Cydia and one of jailbreaking's most knowledgeable people, highly recommends using OpenSSH instead of iFunbox, DiskAid, or anything else that uses the afc2 service. He also recommends uninstalling it and not installing it in the future when you freshly jailbreak your device.
 
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Saurik, the developer of Cydia and one of jailbreaking's most knowledgeable people, highly recommends using OpenSSH instead of iFunbox, DiskAid, or anything else that uses the afc2 service. He also recommends uninstalling it and not installing it in the future when you freshly jailbreak your device.
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What exactly does your last sentence mean? I've read the first part of your quote regarding Saurik in the past, but your last sentence is confusing. Are you referring to OpenSSH? Why would he recommend not installing it if it's better than using an afc2 service?
 
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What exactly does your last sentence mean? I've read the first part of your quote regarding Saurik in the past, but your last sentence is confusing. Are you referring to OpenSSH? Why would he recommend not installing it if it's better than using an afc2 service?
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To clarify, Saurik recommends removing and not installing a afc2 service in the future.
 
eyoungren said:
OpenSSH combined with NetaTalk are what allow me to mount my iPhone as a hard drive and copy files to and from my Mac via WiFi.
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is it compatible with windows? (doesn't look like it is from what I see online). if not, do you know of any alternative equivalent to netatalk? sounds really nifty and convenient
 
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is it compatible with windows? (doesn't look like it is from what I see online). if not, do you know of any alternative equivalent to netatalk? sounds really nifty and convenient
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Unfortunately, I'm not sure if there is anything for Windows. But I will keep an eye out.

Netatalk is also written by Saurik and it leverages Appletalk, which of course is an Apple protocol.

Here's my root drive mounted on my desktop. In the shared devices my iPhone is listed as YM12_iPH_64G. You can also mount the home drive if you want.
 

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I think there is a SMB (Windows) file share server for iOS so that it'll be mountable on Windows.
 
BumpyFlatline said:
You must change your passwords if you use OpenSSH. I change both mobile and root passwords. The cydia homepage has a link to step by step instructions. Do not install it if you do not change the default passwords.

Installing this does not make your phone any safer from hackers.
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Ok, I guess it is of no use to me then. I just want to find out what all the hype was about. Thanks.
 
Isn't afc2 required so I can use apps like ifunbox and iexplorer so it can see the root folder? If I don't have afc2 installed I can't see my iPhones hidden folders. What should I be using then?
 
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Isn't afc2 required so I can use apps like ifunbox and iexplorer so it can see the root folder? If I don't have afc2 installed I can't see my iPhones hidden folders. What should I be using then?
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While it is required to use afc2 for those programs, much better alternatives exist. Use something that does SFTP. It is not only more secure, but offers better file management and permissions setting.
 
If in boot loop, how do you get into the root directory to try to fix. I have SSH but doesn't it rely on wifi?
 
SSH is most often used by WiFi, but it can also with by a USB mux tunnel. It required less working processes within iOS than AFC2, it is not dependent on Springboard to be working (unlike AFC2), and is much better at fixing things because of the command line tools it provides access to.
 
Intell said:
SSH is most often used by WiFi, but it can also with by a USB mux tunnel. It required less working processes within iOS than AFC2, it is not dependent on Springboard to be working (unlike AFC2), and is much better at fixing things because of the command line tools it provides access to.
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Can you provide some steps on how to do that? I spent the last hour and a half trying to do it by searching and using command prompt and downloading some files (itunnel mux) but the instructions I found seem to be dated and I couldn't get it to work for my 5S. I'm using a Mac.
 
I use FileZilla. Computer in left pane and iPad in the right pane. It is so easy to navigate and move file back and forth between the panes.
 

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