Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

bj097

macrumors 6502
Original poster
Dec 27, 2013
347
23
what is the best way to backup the contents on the iPad so that the contents are preserved as original as possible? (perfectly original, not optimized version). I am not very familiar with iOS system

Will there be anything that is not backup ? Will it also backup contents on "Notes" and SMS messages (for iPhone) ??
 

Gav2k

macrumors G3
Jul 24, 2009
9,216
1,608
what is the best way to backup the contents on the iPad so that the contents are preserved as original as possible? (perfectly original, not optimized version). I am not very familiar with iOS system

Will there be anything that is not backup ? Will it also backup contents on "Notes" and SMS messages (for iPhone) ??
Make sure iCloud backup is enabled it's as simple as that
 

xraydoc

macrumors demi-god
Oct 9, 2005
10,311
4,632
192.168.1.1
Your only two real options are iTunes backup and iCloud backup. I've not had any trouble with iCloud, personally, so I use that (makes restoring/replacing a device easier since I don't have to have access to my desktop with iTunes to do it) though it's a slower process by nature of it's internet paradigm.
 

Night Spring

macrumors G5
Jul 17, 2008
14,393
7,527
I don't think iCloud by default backup original photos, It will compress / optimize the photos

Nope, it backs up original versions. You are thinking of Photo stream (or iCloud Photo Library, or whatever they are calling it). That's a different service from iCloud device backups.
 

\-V-/

Suspended
May 3, 2012
3,153
2,688
I wouldn't trust the cloud at all. Back up to your computer via iTunes. If you value your photos I would back those up with Photos (or iPhoto ... depending on what OS you're on) as well ... just to be on the safe side.
 

jamesrick80

macrumors 68030
Sep 12, 2014
2,659
2,216
I wouldn't trust the cloud at all. Back up to your computer via iTunes. If you value your photos I would back those up with Photos (or iPhoto ... depending on what OS you're on) as well ... just to be on the safe side.
Yup do not trust icloud...
 

bj097

macrumors 6502
Original poster
Dec 27, 2013
347
23
Nope, it backs up original versions. You are thinking of Photo stream (or iCloud Photo Library, or whatever they are calling it). That's a different service from iCloud device backups.


Hello. How can I find out my photos on "Photo Stream"??
 

pika2000

Suspended
Jun 22, 2007
5,587
4,902
Fastest is a local iTunes backup to your computer. But then it "defeats" the idea of the "post PC era."

If you are only concerned about pictures, then just enable iCloud photo library. If you want some redundancy, you an also use dropbox or OneDrive to backup your photos as well.
 

cardfan

macrumors 68040
Mar 23, 2012
3,942
4,983
icloud photo library is a PITA especially for a family or multiple device owners. One of my new years resolutions is to abandon that altogether.
 

hiddenmarkov

macrumors 6502a
Mar 12, 2014
685
492
Japan
I only use cloud for small stuff like contacts and such. Stuff I transfer between devices or I use iCloud over web to look up if no device handy. Fits easily in the free space iCloud gives to a non paid account.

I mainly rely on full backup to computer as a general rule.

Photo's (video) you would be best to separate out (export from iPhoto, case of video I import into final cut pro, work what I do there and the project gets archived/moved to external media when done) and put somewhere else. Or in addition to the full backup.

Paranoid aout video/pics externals that support some redundancy and drive failure strategies advised. Not saying you have to go NAS but...mine is 5 bay set up in hybrid array that allows for 2 drives failure. Barring 3 dead drives in record time, I get the time to replace and get the array not limping along.
 

spiderman0616

macrumors 603
Aug 1, 2010
5,475
7,029
Here's my backup procedure:

1. Macbook Pro stores ALL my photos and backs them up to Time Machine for an onsite backup.
2. Macbook Pro also backs up to Backblaze for an offsite backup.
3. Everything else we own (iPhones, iPads, Apple Watch, iPod Touch) are backed up in iCloud. That has worked flawlessly for us so far.
 

tdale

macrumors 65816
Aug 11, 2013
1,293
77
Christchurch, N.Z.
Fastest is a local iTunes backup to your computer. But then it "defeats" the idea of the "post PC era."

If you are only concerned about pictures, then just enable iCloud photo library. If you want some redundancy, you an also use dropbox or OneDrive to backup your photos as well.
But we aren't in a post PC era. They are alive and well.
 

joeblow7777

macrumors 604
Sep 7, 2010
6,918
8,311
Fastest is a local iTunes backup to your computer. But then it "defeats" the idea of the "post PC era."

So what? That only goes to show that we are not yet in a "post PC era". The easiest and most efficient way to do many things is still by using a full fledged computer.

My problem with iCloud and other cloud services as a backup solution is that you have to pay for storage, and then require an internet connection to access it. iCloud only offers a pathetic 5GB of storage for free. At least other services like Google Drive offer 15GB, and until recently, Microsoft OneDrive offered 15GB free right of the bat, plus another 15GB just for setting it as your photo backup, for a total of 30GB free. What's Apple's excuse? 5GB is not enough if they expect people to use iCloud for backup and managing files for access across various devices. With so little storage, all I use it for is a quick way of transferring documents between my PC and iPad.
 

tdale

macrumors 65816
Aug 11, 2013
1,293
77
Christchurch, N.Z.
Agree. Post PC era is a crock. Its the same with iPad sales, going down thats a crock also

When you had a PC it was easy to upgrade or replace the laptop. With expensive smartphones, expensive tablets, there is only so much money to go round, so its expected that PC sales slide, as its used less. Same with iPads. Cant replace everything every year, its not like the iPad is used 4 hours every day by most.
 

joeblow7777

macrumors 604
Sep 7, 2010
6,918
8,311
Agree. Post PC era is a crock. Its the same with iPad sales, going down thats a crock also

When you had a PC it was easy to upgrade or replace the laptop. With expensive smartphones, expensive tablets, there is only so much money to go round, so its expected that PC sales slide, as its used less. Same with iPads. Cant replace everything every year, its not like the iPad is used 4 hours every day by most.

I think it's also because of the advancement of technology. A PC, for example, used to feel obsolete after just a few years. Now, even a moderately priced PC is powerful enough to be overkill for a lot of users. Unless you're a PC gamer, or into heavy duty multimedia stuff, chances are a 5+ year old PC can still do everything you need it to, so people go a long time before replacing. Tablets are reaching that point too. Once you have an iPad, the average user won't need a new one for years, and thus sales decrease as the market gets saturated. Smartphones continue to do well because cellular contracts have trained people to upgrade their phones every two years like clockwork, but few people upgrade their PCs or tablets that regularly.
 
  • Like
Reactions: \-V-/

\-V-/

Suspended
May 3, 2012
3,153
2,688
I think it's also because of the advancement of technology. A PC, for example, used to feel obsolete after just a few years. Now, even a moderately priced PC is powerful enough to be overkill for a lot of users. Unless you're a PC gamer, or into heavy duty multimedia stuff, chances are a 5+ year old PC can still do everything you need it to, so people go a long time before replacing. Tablets are reaching that point too. Once you have an iPad, the average user won't need a new one for years, and thus sales decrease as the market gets saturated. Smartphones continue to do well because cellular contracts have trained people to upgrade their phones every two years like clockwork, but few people upgrade their PCs or tablets that regularly.
Agreed on everything. And your last point is why I'm switching to Google Fi. I feel suffocated by carrier contracts.
 

Jax44

Contributor
Jul 24, 2010
735
860
Carmel, California
does backing up to iCloud also back up your health data ? I know doing encrypted backups to iTunes does
Encrypted iTunes backup is the best, it saves Safari log ins, iMessages, etc.

I use that and iCloud backups also, along with a separate hard drive and online with Crash Plan.
 

pika2000

Suspended
Jun 22, 2007
5,587
4,902
But we aren't in a post PC era. They are alive and well.
Who said "post PC" era? Apple.
That's my point. Apple pushed iDevices as a post PC computing devices, and many consumers have pretty much only their iPhone/iPad as their "computer." Yet ironically it still relies on the "truck" PC for reliable backup. I myself still use iTunes backup.

But at least there's the iTunes option. Android is worse, with no easy way for consumers to have a complete local backup without resorting to workarounds/rooting.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.