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Josh said:
Someone may not be coding *specifically for* non-desktop devices, but many devices today can browse every site there is.
not so much coding for non-desktop device X, but using good practices (CSS-enabled separation of style/content, XHMTL extensions, non-image buttons & links, RSS feeds, et. al.) and then going so far as testing their pages on Palms, phones, etc.

just wondering who here is paying a lot of attention to that stuff.
 
Make sure you're learning correct XHTML and CSS. Using tables for design is out; CSS is in. Learn those and that knowledge will be useful for a while to come. w3schools.com is great for learning correct web design. Then, validate.
http://validator.w3.org/
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

Phones and Palms shouldn't be too troublesome if you keep the content (HTML) and design (CSS) completely separated as in XHTML strict.
 
Agreed

Josh said:
"For writing/editting html I recommend SubEthaEdit. For writing/editting CSS, I recommend CSSEdit.For transferring the files from your computer to the web (FTP), I recommend Transmit. As for actually learning the stuff, you can't go wrong with trial and error ;) Viewing source that other people have created, disecting it, and trying out what they did is also a good way to learn HTML/CSS quickly."


Agree with all this and add no more.
 
zimv20 said:
is anyone here coding for and testing on non-desktop/laptop devices, like handhelds?

I haven't been yet, mainly because I don't have any of these devices to test on. Does anyone know of an emulator that could be used for testing how a site would look on a handheld device? I couldn't find anything with a quick search on SourceForge and Google
 
If your site is built correctly you should not need to test it on a handheld device - basic semantic HTML is, quite simply that... basic.

Something like:
<h2>My Title</h2>
<p>A paragrapht</p>

Is hardly likely to require testing.

If you need to test it on handheld platforms, you are doing it wrong. If you REALLY want to make sure your site is easy enough to use on a mobile platform then you should consider using Lynx browser or another text based browser, or simply turn off your stylesheet. If you can still navigate the site then you are doing it right.

Use lists for links, headers for titles, p for paragraphs and tables for valid tabular data (NOT layout). If you use the correct markup then your HTML will have meaning even without CSS.

The below example could be a page title, a paragraph, a subheader, a random quote.. anything!
<td>Something or Other</td>

The below example should only be a level one header
<h1>Something or Other</td>

Many people are scared away from HTML itself by all this code bloat and proprietary markup, when PROPER HTML is really an easy-as-hell dead simple way of identifying a few lines of text.

Oh, and Dreamweaver is an EXCELLENT tool which has been with my throughout my entire development career, it only produces rubbish code if the user is incompitent. However you should not use Dreamweaver from the outset, because you will be too tempted to rely on WYSIWYG and will never learn HTML.
 
i'm looking into contribute 3 right now and for what i want it is ok but nothing fancy. i have used dreamweaver a few times but felt it was too much too soon so i went back to basics and looked at contribute .

start small think big
 
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