What is the currently best Internal Hard Drive

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  1. offtheroad macrumors regular

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    Sadly I still can't afford a Mac with SSHD's so I heard that the best SATA internal HD is the WD Black. So I'm shopping for something under 150.00 in 2TB's
     
  2. IowaLynn macrumors 65816

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    I would still look but not for those SSHD.
    $79 128GB Samsung 850 EVO and WD Black $69 1TB .

    SSD for OS and apps and 1-2TB WD Black for data.
    Later add WD Green 2-3TB which are also fine and can be used for data or backup.
     
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  4. IowaLynn macrumors 65816

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    From the study:

    Where are the WD 4 TB Drives?

    There is only one Storage Pod of Western Digital 4 TB drives. Why? The reason is simple: price. ... Western Digital drives were often not quoted and ... were never the lowest price. Generally the WD drives were $15-$20 more per drive.

    All drives fail. Therefore always have two backup sets, and never rely solely on TimeMachine.

    Best drive? or best configuration of drives.

    StorageReview Leaderboard has been my go to site for reviews for over a decade.
     
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    That was an eye opening study on disk fail rates!

    Thank you very much, I'll be going with HGST drives for my Macs moving forward.
     
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    Thanks for posting that link. Very informative.
     
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    What do you mean special bracket? Seagate's SSHD is a 3.5" drive with the same mounting specs as a normal HDD. I have used Seagate drives for many years now, since the demise of Quantum, and I have found them to be reliable. Do they fail over time, sure they do, all HDDs do. But, over the last 10 or so years, I have only had on Seagate HDD drive fail, and of course, I had it backed up.

    BTW, I have a 1TB Seagate SSHD, and I can attest it's quite a bit faster than my traditional HDDs.

    Lou
     
  10. IowaLynn macrumors 65816

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    Any top performing 7.2k drive today can be said to be "fast" and even come close to 180MB/sec. Unless you go with PCIe SATA III you are limited to sharing the SATA II drive bay controller and its bandwidth.

    Having a dedicated boot drive has always worked to help too.

    It wasn't until I put Samsung 830 into mine that an SSD really gave me a significant improvement. And I use to be married to WD 10K VR and going back to 2003 first Raptor (and SCSI for all most all my systems and drives before that with a few PATA and then SATA).

    Disk I/O is one of the major bottlenecks on systems, so improving it pays off.
     
  11. offtheroad thread starter macrumors regular

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    So is it possible that you can educate me on a "dedicated boot drive" I have room on my Mac pro for 4 bays. So if I just used one with a SSD just for the OS is that what you mean. And then put all apps and other stuff on other HD's.
     
  12. IowaLynn macrumors 65816

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    The OS - and all the apps - go on the SSD. You do not install or move apps - you want them on the SSD just like normal.

    You can even leave your home account Library on the SSD as well.
     
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    Thanks,is the home library the one that can only be accessed with option key and going to the GO in top main menu? So everything else like Documents, Desktop, other Library (whichever that is) or everything in USER folder would go on another HD? What if I didn't get a small SSD but a larger regular HD like 2TB and just loaded it with everything, since it would be 1 TB larger than I have now would that show a difference in speed?
     
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    Will my early 2009 Mac Pro 2.66 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon benefit from a SATA III HD all my currently installed 1TB HD's when I look in the System Profiler seem to be just SATA?
     
  15. IowaLynn macrumors 65816

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    An SSD for the full system is 3-10X faster than any hdd.

    An SSD on your (slow) SATA II drive bays is still a large improvement.
    near zero seeks and latency, 1000s of I/Os per second, 250MB/sec
    SATA III = 550MB/sec
    XP941 PCIe blade type SSD 800-1200MB/sec writes/reads

    No comparison.

    The higher density of 4TB - 6TB drives makes them the fastest for spinners, but that does not translate into the same performance.

    Price of Samsung 850 250GB is only $40 more than the smallest 128GB so that is what I would buy.

    Later you can move the 850 to one of the SATA III like the Duo or something for $49-99.

    Or you can just "bite the bullet" and go all out $285 for one of the blade devices, only 256GB but more than large enough.

    Apple is putting 4x PCIe-SSD now into the new MacBooks/Air. And you can too now.
     

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