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Well ... you're technically correct that they haven't "required" people to get their media from iTunes. But the reality is, there aren't that many people willing to rip their own stuff in the first place, and even fewer willing to buy and keep track of an external drive to rip their stuff. It's one more obstacle people have to overcome.

I think this is a slippery slope, like how so many companies want to transition to email statements instead of paper statements. At first, it's optional, then it becomes mandatory. Within a generation or two of future Macs, they will stop including the software and drivers necessary to use DVD drives, then you WILL be forced to acquire any media from iTunes.

And that's fine for about 95% of the public that desires convenience more than quality.


so you're saying there will be no more stand alone blu ray players?
not like you need a digital copy dvd now. just input the code on a website or into itunes
 
I went Blu Ray only since I have a projector and at those sizes you do see more of a difference but I am thinking about ripping everything and putting it on a NAS, does anyone know how aTV handles streaming a full Blu Ray rip of 30-40 GB?
 
Please let me know how you do this. I can't seem to get it to work with the full BD rips.

you probably need a beefy router for this. not just a cheapo one that advertises 55mbps or whatever. better routers have faster CPU's to process the data
 
Not sure what you're doing but I can quite easily stream my full BD rips (30-50GB) to my aTV 3.
But in most cases it's not lossless. First, the aTV doesn't support lossless multichannel audio like Blu-ray, and second, many Blu-rays are encoded using the VC-1 video codec, which is also not supported by aTV. So you have to re-encode in many cases, which means you lose some quality.
 
And you are doing this how?

How? I have iTunes running on my WHS 2011 server and it is connected by gigabit ethernet to my ASUS RT-AC66U WiFi Router - the aTV3 is connected to the router by 5GHz wifi and it works absolutely fine. It may not be lossless but the handbrake rips that are 30GB or bigger stream fine.

If it doesn't work for you then you probably need to look at your network setup. :)

@niteflyr - the biggest issue I find that most people face is the router they use. As I said I use a ASUS RT-AC66U and it handles anything I throw at it including more than one BR rip playing on different aTV's while streaming Netflix etc. on another one.

Can't wait until Apple release an aTV with "ac wifi" - will be awesome :D
 
I looked up my router's spec's and discovered my Verizon FIOS installed router is only wireless "g". I moved things around a bit and connected the ATV by Ethernet to the router and everything works great now. Thanks.
 
If it doesn't work for you then you probably need to look at your network setup. :)

The point is that you aren't streaming full BD rips unless they have been re-encoded, or are re-encoded on the fly. It's got nothing to do with anyones network. The ATV can't handle the files.
 
The point is that you aren't streaming full BD rips unless they have been re-encoded, or are re-encoded on the fly. It's got nothing to do with anyones network. The ATV can't handle the files.

The original question was:

...does anyone know how aTV handles streaming a full Blu Ray rip of 30-40 GB?

and I am able to to stream a full Blur Ray rip of 30-40 GB to my aTV - now is that lossles with DTS 6.1 etc (even though I have those audio streams included in the rip) - no it isn't, but that wasn't the question was it :D
 
The original question was:



and I am able to to stream a full Blur Ray rip of 30-40 GB to my aTV - now is that lossles with DTS 6.1 etc (even though I have those audio streams included in the rip) - no it isn't, but that wasn't the question was it :D

I suppose it's a matter of perspective. It seems to me that was exactly the question. I interpret "full" as not wanting to diminish the presentation. Only a Blu-ray rip that has been diminished can be streamed to an Apple TV.
 
I suppose it's a matter of perspective. It seems to me that was exactly the question. I interpret "full" as not wanting to diminish the presentation. Only a Blu-ray rip that has been diminished can be streamed to an Apple TV.

Tell me then how to do a "full" BR rip without some compression/loss of quality. If you then accept that all rips are "diminished" (which they are) then they way I interpreted the question was correct. :p
 
All rips are not. Re-encoded rips are.

Correct - but you *MUST* re-encode a rip to make it compatible with the AppleTV, hence people's questioning of how someone can play a "full BR rip" on their AppleTV.

I have some extremely-high-quality BR rips/re-encodes, but in order to play them on my Gen 3 ATV, I had to re-encode them. I know of no way to play a ripped-only-not-re-encoded Blu-ray on my AppleTV.
 
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