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applefan289

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Just wondering what the difference is, and whether Wi-Fi emits more or less radiation than long-range radio frequency, like what is used to listen to FM radio.
 
the frequency is what is different.

Wifi is going to be 2.4 or 5 Ghz.

Cell radio is at 2.1 Ghz or less. Most of it less. 2.1 is the high range.

Radio in your car on FM it highest frequency is around 110 Mhz (0.110 Ghz) and lowest around 87 Mhz. That is for FM.
 
the frequency is what is different.

Wifi is going to be 2.4 or 5 Ghz.

Cell radio is at 2.1 Ghz or less. Most of it less. 2.1 is the high range.

Radio in your car on FM it highest frequency is around 110 Mhz (0.110 Ghz) and lowest around 87 Mhz. That is for FM.

So it sounds like Wi-Fi would be of most danger then? But how come I hear that cell phone frequency is what's being questioned as dangerous?
 
So it sounds like Wi-Fi would be of most danger then? But how come I hear that cell phone frequency is what's being questioned as dangerous?

Higher frequency does not always mean dangerous. It more about energy levels.

By your school of thought visible light is a lot more dangerous than Wifi as it is at even higher frequencies. Red light starts at 400 Thz
 
So it sounds like Wi-Fi would be of most danger then? But how come I hear that cell phone frequency is what's being questioned as dangerous?

The ones that pose the greatest danger are radiation waves, like gamma/X-Rays. These are really high, around 300Ehz. But the the frequencies you posted don't pose any threat, as per recent research.
 
FM and AM radio has the strongest signal, the most powerful AM transmitter aloud is 50,000 watts. Cell phone is short wave and only as powerful as the nearest cell tower. Wifi is maybe 500 feet max. In all of these the dangerous power is right near the tower. Wifi is about as dangerous as your cordless phone or microwave oven.

The reason cell phones are considered dangerous is that you are holding a transmitter right to your head for sometimes hours at a time.
 
FM and AM radio has the strongest signal, the most powerful AM transmitter aloud is 50,000 watts. Cell phone is short wave and only as powerful as the nearest cell tower. Wifi is maybe 500 feet max. In all of these the dangerous power is right near the tower. Wifi is about as dangerous as your cordless phone or microwave oven.

The reason cell phones are considered dangerous is that you are holding a transmitter right to your head for sometimes hours at a time.

The reason why cell phones are considered dangerous is based on hearsay and a lack of a strong meta-analysis confirming this, so say Cancer Research UK.

Cancer Research UK said:
So far no one has been able to provide a good biological mechanism for the link between mobile phones and cancer. The “how” question is an open one. The phones give off microwave radiation, but this has millions of times less energy than, say, an X-ray and is not powerful enough to damage our DNA. They mildly heat the body, but again, not enough to pose a health risk. Other suggestions have been put forward, but none are backed by consistent evidence.
 
The reason why cell phones are considered dangerous is based on hearsay and a lack of a strong meta-analysis confirming this, so say Cancer Research UK.

So, perhaps?

Just to be safe, use a blue-tooth/hands-free device.

Blue-tooth only has to work for a few feet, to the phone.
 
So, perhaps?

Just to be safe, use a blue-tooth/hands-free device.

Blue-tooth only has to work for a few feet, to the phone.

Bluetooth? The wireless standard, using, er, waves of some sort.:p

Anyhow, reading the article, it is only a possible because of the difficulty in being certain, rather than a case of the evidence leaning towards them being dangerous..
 
Thanks for the answers.

So if someone has symptoms of palpitations, and that person claims it's due to Wi-Fi, would that person be wrong? The person would have lived their whole life with powerful FM radio transmitters, so some Wi-Fi in a room shouldn't be an issue, right?

BTW I would not like to see the radiation levels in an Apple store - it's practically a soup of wireless frequencies in there. :eek:
 
Thanks for the answers.

So if someone has symptoms of palpitations, and that person claims it's due to Wi-Fi, would that person be wrong? The person would have lived their whole life with powerful FM radio transmitters, so some Wi-Fi in a room shouldn't be an issue, right?

BTW I would not like to see the radiation levels in an Apple store - it's practically a soup of wireless frequencies in there. :eek:

:rolleyes:

Why would palpitations be most likely caused by Wi-Fi. As a doctor, I would think (deep breath...) claustrophobia,anxiety,hyperthyroidism,medication,heartattack,UFOlanding all before Wi-Fi. There is no evidence that radio waves cause problems, and in layman's speak that means that most likely they don't. Your local Apple store is as safe as your local clothes shop.
 
:rolleyes:

Why would palpitations be most likely caused by Wi-Fi. As a doctor, I would think (deep breath...) claustrophobia,anxiety,hyperthyroidism,medication,heartattack,UFOlanding all before Wi-Fi. There is no evidence that radio waves cause problems, and in layman's speak that means that most likely they don't. Your local Apple store is as safe as your local clothes shop.

One thing I do know is that my 27-inch iMac gives me headaches, and I leave it on the lowest brightness setting. :rolleyes:
 
Can you adjust the refresh rate. This can cause a problem for some people.

Oh, how would I do that in Lion? It doesn't seem to be in the Display settings. Would I have to use the calibrator? Would a higher refresh rate help?
 
Oh, how would I do that in Lion? It doesn't seem to be in the Display settings. Would I have to use the calibrator? Would a higher refresh rate help?

Don't have Lion, so no help there.

I just know that some people are very sensitive to certain refresh rates.

And that might have been for the old CRT displays??

Someone with Lion experience will be along shortly. ;)
 
Thanks for the answers.

So if someone has symptoms of palpitations, and that person claims it's due to Wi-Fi, would that person be wrong? The person would have lived their whole life with powerful FM radio transmitters, so some Wi-Fi in a room shouldn't be an issue, right?

BTW I would not like to see the radiation levels in an Apple store - it's practically a soup of wireless frequencies in there. :eek:

If they're having palpitations, it's due to a medical condition and they need to see a doctor, not unplug the WiFi router.

Oh, how would I do that in Lion? It doesn't seem to be in the Display settings. Would I have to use the calibrator? Would a higher refresh rate help?

Refresh rates don't apply to LCDs. Only CRTs. Go see an eye doctor.
 
Oh, how would I do that in Lion? It doesn't seem to be in the Display settings. Would I have to use the calibrator? Would a higher refresh rate help?

I don't think you can. You used to be able to with CRT monitors, but that isn't how LCDs work.

Seriously, get your eyes checked out. Even small uncorrected sight defects can cause headaches quickly if you're straining your eyes looking at something too close or far away (I wear glasses and I know this from experience!!).
 
I don't think you can. You used to be able to with CRT monitors, but that isn't how LCDs work.

Seriously, get your eyes checked out. Even small uncorrected sight defects can cause headaches quickly if you're straining your eyes looking at something too close or far away (I wear glasses and I know this from experience!!).

I have astigmatism in my left eye (very slight blurry vision, close and far), but I've had that for a long time. I was on my prior Windows computer for hours (19" LCD monitor), but the contrast and brightness (and obviously size) was less intense because I had it on the lowest settings. I don't want to mess with the calibration of the iMac, so I just put the brightness all the way down. It's still quite intense.

It could be that I need glasses, but I don't want them because my vision is pretty good. It may not be good enough though, hence my headaches.
 
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