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What is the sales-pitch for jailbreaking?

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Mar 14, 2008
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I'm gerneraly a bit cautious when it comes to these kids of things, as in large part I'm not super computer savvy when it comes to personalzing and tricking out my gadgets. I've been on the safe side of the fence, but have wondered if the grass is greener. Can people list out some major pros and cons?

From what I can tell - jailbreaking lets you:
1 - customize the look dramatically (not a big deal for me).
2 - load software not availaible in the app-store
3 - anything else of major impact?

As for #2 - what are the bigg hitters in terms of programs you can get by jailbreaking? I'm really interested in this question. What program, feature, drove you to jailbreak?

Cons:
1 - voids your warranty?
2 - can't get help from MacStore?
3 - buggy?

Thanks all in advance. Sorry if this a noob or repetitive question, but I just didn't see any sort of comprehensive look at to jailbreak or not.
 
it's not gonna get too comprehensive that that... And those cons aren't that accurate...

Appl says it voids warranty, but you can just re-instAll the original firmware... And there's plenty of help if you need it so dunno what your 2nd statement is about... yea u can't get macstore help but, they know less than you...
 
Just disable the pineapple icon when you jailbreak.

What Steve don'tknow won't hurt him.
 
Brandon Heat said:
Appl says it voids warranty, but you can just re-instAll the original firmware...
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I've read reports that they can still tell and will deny service in those cases.

As for the O.P., I suggest that you read through the forum dedicated to jailbreaking. I think your answer of "other software" is the main reason to jailbreak.

If you can find software being talked about over there that you really want, then jailbreak. If you don't see anything, then don't.

I think that's pretty much the way to look at it.
 
If you have a hardware failure on a jailbroken phone that prevents a restore the game is over. Anything else that is an issue you can take care of. Make sure your hardware is acceptable before jailbreaking is all I can say.

Pineapple boot up = pineapple of death at 'genius' bar.
 
How do you disable the pineapple icon? That thing annoyed me to no end the last time I jailbroke with pwnage.
 
Brandon Heat said:
^interesting... I wonder how they do it
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Remember that this is "stuff on read" on the internet, so it may not be real. But from what I've read, even a software restore doesn't erase every single file jailbreaking leaves behind. So it's possible to scan the iPhone's flash drive for the presense of these files.

Again, not a fact, just something I'd heard.

Bottom line is, as long as someone has the ability to buy a new phone if they HAD to, they shouldn't be afraid of jailbreaking. Probably nothing will go wrong. I wouldn't do it if I was someone who had zero ability to buy a new one if I had to.
 
Is there a site or link that shows jailbreaking only apps? That has some description of them?

I know people love springboard, but that's not appealing enough for me. If something like Sling worked on a jailbroken phone, that's a whole other game.
 
Small White Car said:
Remember that this is "stuff on read" on the internet, so it may not be real. But from what I've read, even a software restore doesn't erase every single file jailbreaking leaves behind. So it's possible to scan the iPhone's flash drive for the presense of these files.

Again, not a fact, just something I'd heard.

Bottom line is, as long as someone has the ability to buy a new phone if they HAD to, they shouldn't be afraid of jailbreaking. Probably nothing will go wrong. I wouldn't do it if I was someone who had zero ability to buy a new one if I had to.
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then you would be wrong as far as I know. You can't completely erase an unlock is my understanding.
 
You automatically void your warranty if you call an Apple Store "MacStore".
 
Small White Car said:
Remember that this is "stuff on read" on the internet, so it may not be real. But from what I've read, even a software restore doesn't erase every single file jailbreaking leaves behind. So it's possible to scan the iPhone's flash drive for the presense of these files.

Again, not a fact, just something I'd heard.

Bottom line is, as long as someone has the ability to buy a new phone if they HAD to, they shouldn't be afraid of jailbreaking. Probably nothing will go wrong. I wouldn't do it if I was someone who had zero ability to buy a new one if I had to.
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Apple geniuses never look around on the root partition of device, they dont even have access. If you restore to original you are fine.
 
I just don't understand how a Genius can tell if you have jailbroken your phone if you do a DFU restore and you "erase all content and settings" from your phone.

If they can see old jailbreak files, wont they be able to see old email files as well?

Somebody more tech savvy please explain this to me.

Thanks
 
staccato83 said:
I just don't understand how a Genius can tell if you have jailbroken your phone if you do a DFU restore and you "erase all content and settings" from your phone.

If they can see old jailbreak files, wont they be able to see old email files as well?

Somebody more tech savvy please explain this to me.

Thanks
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Its not the erase content and settings that gets rid of everything, its when you actually write the stock firmware to the phone, it overwrites any changes that where made when jailbreaking, with only a few exceptions (sometimes carrier icons dont change back but that depends on if your merely updating the firmware or actually overwriting everything)

Simply put, restore iphone/ipod = clean slate, your starting from stock.
 
I don't believe an unlock can be hid but I do believe a jailbreak can. Sorry if I gave the wrong impression earlier.
 
ryanwarsaw said:
I don't believe an unlock can be hid but I do believe a jailbreak can. Sorry if I gave the wrong impression earlier.
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Oh your talking about unlocking, thats a whole different thing. I beleive it has to do with the baseband, and messing with that can be a little dangerous if you cant follow instructions.

Id say if you want to jailbreak go for it, unlocking however is best thought of as a one shot deal.
 
battery drains are worse from all the buggy apps and 'background' things going on from jailbreaking (from what i read)
 
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