What is the Ultimate Role of the Apple Tablet?

SactoGuy18 said:
I'd like to see the tablet have IR support. The reason is simple: imagine Logitech providing a program that turns the tablet into the equivalent of the Harmony A/V remote controller, only with more sophistication like perfect duplication of the remote functions of every A/V device in your system.
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People who really need fancy remotes need RF control, not IR control. The last thing they want to have to do is point their remotes at each piece of equipment.
You're better off getting an IP->IR converter and using wifi.
 
jccbin said:
There are millions, nay, tens of millions of people who want to do nothing more that check out the latest showbiz gossip, answer a few emails and fool around with their flickr accounts and similar items. They don't want to make movies or create iPhoto books or write novels or design logos. They want to not have to get out in the cold rain to pick up a soggy newspaper or magazine, and that is worth something - quite a lot (as newspaper subscriptions are more than $100 a year in most places).
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I have been on the bleeding edge of tech in my work for over two decades now, digital photography for 16 years, it is pretty incredible stuff. But now I am seeing it change people....drastically. They care less, want more, faster and are fat asses in front of computers. They are also very boring, they don't know anything else but what they read on the internet. They also live not for today, but for what tomorrow brings, the next gadget to speculate about, not what they can do in life today.

I won't ever be caught dead with a Kindle and if that is what the new Apple gadget is supposed to be like, you won't catch me buying one of these either. I have a life, I like the cold, the rain, the soggy newspaper, the chance to meet someone in passing while getting it. I like being fit at 40, able to climb high peaks over 20,000 feet, to run as fast as I can, to ride a horse, to read a book, to photograph and put those images in a book that does not need a battery to look at. I am punting digital to the curb after 16 years, I don't need it, I do great things with film, the real thing.

I use computers in my living. I make them as fast as possible so I can get the hell off of them and have a life, something that less and less people seem to have as they shove everything in in their lives up the @ss of a computer.

The really bitchen thing? More and more people I know feel the same way, they are over the hype, over the internet and over the gear heads who think that the center of the universe is a computer. Most profoundly the people who feel this way are often young people who are sick to death of having digital this, internet that and computer this rammed down their throats since birth.

I spend far less time on these devices lately and I am really, really happy about it. It's a big, big world out there and not everyone wants the future to be now, life is too short for that.

So I hope Apple continues to make electronic devices for us too, the people who don't have time to watch the Discovery Channel because we are on it. The people who have a life and want to spend less time on these gadgets, not more.

Remember eye-contact? It is more important than i-contact...
 
Macshroomer said:
So I hope Apple continues to make electronic devices for us too, the people who don't have time to watch the Discovery Channel because we are on it. The people who have a life and want to spend less time on these gadgets, not more.

Remember eye-contact? It is more important than i-contact...
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What can I say I love digital.
As more and more of the disposable parts of our culture go digital, the more endearing and special things are returning to analogue. Like seeing vinyl in ever record store.

As I need less physical stuff* to do my work then the I'm going to take that chance to go visit people I'm dealing with instead of phoning them.

Isn't that the point of a tablet?
I mean instead of being in your face and blocking your way, it sits neatly out of your way until you want it, do stuff, then gets back out of your way.

This is why notepad still rule, they are just such a natural fit to interacting with people in meetings or general life.

That is why the idea of a tablet just doesn't die, but is the thing no one has truly gotten right.

*For a 20+ storey building I'm carrying a ream of paper to every meeting.
Plus anything i need to hand out.
 
Macshroomer said:
I have been on the bleeding edge of tech in my work for over two decades now, digital photography for 16 years, it is pretty incredible stuff. But now I am seeing it change people....drastically. They care less, want more, faster and are fat asses in front of computers. They are also very boring, they don't know anything else but what they read on the internet. They also live not for today, but for what tomorrow brings, the next gadget to speculate about, not what they can do in life today.

I won't ever be caught dead with a Kindle and if that is what the new Apple gadget is supposed to be like, you won't catch me buying one of these either. I have a life, I like the cold, the rain, the soggy newspaper, the chance to meet someone in passing while getting it. I like being fit at 40, able to climb high peaks over 20,000 feet, to run as fast as I can, to ride a horse, to read a book, to photograph and put those images in a book that does not need a battery to look at. I am punting digital to the curb after 16 years, I don't need it, I do great things with film, the real thing.

I use computers in my living. I make them as fast as possible so I can get the hell off of them and have a life, something that less and less people seem to have as they shove everything in in their lives up the @ss of a computer.

The really bitchen thing? More and more people I know feel the same way, they are over the hype, over the internet and over the gear heads who think that the center of the universe is a computer. Most profoundly the people who feel this way are often young people who are sick to death of having digital this, internet that and computer this rammed down their throats since birth.

I spend far less time on these devices lately and I am really, really happy about it. It's a big, big world out there and not everyone wants the future to be now, life is too short for that.

So I hope Apple continues to make electronic devices for us too, the people who don't have time to watch the Discovery Channel because we are on it. The people who have a life and want to spend less time on these gadgets, not more.

Remember eye-contact? It is more important than i-contact...
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haha Brilliant! Seems like you've run out off things to do off-line and you thought you'd check up on the latest apple rumours.. how ironic.
 
Macshroomer said:
I have been on the bleeding edge of tech in my work for over two decades now, digital photography for 16 years, it is pretty incredible stuff. But now I am seeing it change people....drastically. They care less, want more, faster and are fat asses in front of computers. They are also very boring, they don't know anything else but what they read on the internet. They also live not for today, but for what tomorrow brings, the next gadget to speculate about, not what they can do in life today.

I won't ever be caught dead with a Kindle and if that is what the new Apple gadget is supposed to be like, you won't catch me buying one of these either. I have a life, I like the cold, the rain, the soggy newspaper, the chance to meet someone in passing while getting it. I like being fit at 40, able to climb high peaks over 20,000 feet, to run as fast as I can, to ride a horse, to read a book, to photograph and put those images in a book that does not need a battery to look at. I am punting digital to the curb after 16 years, I don't need it, I do great things with film, the real thing.

I use computers in my living. I make them as fast as possible so I can get the hell off of them and have a life, something that less and less people seem to have as they shove everything in in their lives up the @ss of a computer.

The really bitchen thing? More and more people I know feel the same way, they are over the hype, over the internet and over the gear heads who think that the center of the universe is a computer. Most profoundly the people who feel this way are often young people who are sick to death of having digital this, internet that and computer this rammed down their throats since birth.

I spend far less time on these devices lately and I am really, really happy about it. It's a big, big world out there and not everyone wants the future to be now, life is too short for that.

So I hope Apple continues to make electronic devices for us too, the people who don't have time to watch the Discovery Channel because we are on it. The people who have a life and want to spend less time on these gadgets, not more.

Remember eye-contact? It is more important than i-contact...
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I get where you're going with this and to a large degree, I'm with you.

However...

I'm not into climbing 20K peaks but I'd 'kinda like to live vicariously through others that are into that sort of thing. Maybe in full color with audio and video so I can get as close to the experience as possible.

...on my Slablet.

I'm into paddling into huge waves, dropping down the face, making a bottom turn and if lucky, lining up a nice tube. That's my thing.

So, how about we share our experiences with each other. Capesh?

I find that devices such as the <insert whatever you want to call it> accent my active lifestyle; not overtake it.
 
Macshroomer said:
I have been on the bleeding edge of tech in my work for over two decades now, digital photography for 16 years, it is pretty incredible stuff. But now I am seeing it change people....drastically. They care less, want more, faster and are fat asses in front of computers. They are also very boring, they don't know anything else but what they read on the internet. They also live not for today, but for what tomorrow brings, the next gadget to speculate about, not what they can do in life today.

I won't ever be caught dead with a Kindle and if that is what the new Apple gadget is supposed to be like, you won't catch me buying one of these either. I have a life, I like the cold, the rain, the soggy newspaper, the chance to meet someone in passing while getting it. I like being fit at 40, able to climb high peaks over 20,000 feet, to run as fast as I can, to ride a horse, to read a book, to photograph and put those images in a book that does not need a battery to look at. I am punting digital to the curb after 16 years, I don't need it, I do great things with film, the real thing.

I use computers in my living. I make them as fast as possible so I can get the hell off of them and have a life, something that less and less people seem to have as they shove everything in in their lives up the @ss of a computer.

The really bitchen thing? More and more people I know feel the same way, they are over the hype, over the internet and over the gear heads who think that the center of the universe is a computer. Most profoundly the people who feel this way are often young people who are sick to death of having digital this, internet that and computer this rammed down their throats since birth.

I spend far less time on these devices lately and I am really, really happy about it. It's a big, big world out there and not everyone wants the future to be now, life is too short for that.

So I hope Apple continues to make electronic devices for us too, the people who don't have time to watch the Discovery Channel because we are on it. The people who have a life and want to spend less time on these gadgets, not more.

Remember eye-contact? It is more important than i-contact...
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I get where you're going with this and to a large degree, I'm with you.

However...

I'm not into climbing 20K peaks but I'd 'kinda like to live vicariously through others that are into that sort of thing. Maybe in full color with audio and video so I can get as close to the experience as possible.

...on my Slablet.

I'm into paddling into huge waves, dropping down the face, making a bottom turn and if lucky, lining up a nice tube. That's my thing. So, how about we share our experiences with each other. Capesh?

I guess what I'm saying is that I find that devices such as the <insert whatever you want to call it> accent my active lifestyle; not overtake it.
 
appletastic said:
haha Brilliant! Seems like you've run out off things to do off-line and you thought you'd check up on the latest apple rumours.. how ironic.
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:D Irony :D

At the "Summit" of a cold, it puts me on one of those moods, ornery..

And what I wrote applies to people I know personally, not anyone on here, I have no idea how you live. But in the interest of full disclosure, Apple makes for a better life through the products they make, I just hope the world does not lose even more tactility in the process.

Balanced diet, you know? I don't always need the world at my fingertips, it is firmly planted beneath my feet...
 
SactoGuy18 said:
I'd like to see the tablet have IR support. The reason is simple: imagine Logitech providing a program that turns the tablet into the equivalent of the Harmony A/V remote controller, only with more sophistication like perfect duplication of the remote functions of every A/V device in your system.
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Yes, I agree. Or even one that works properly!
 
Well, looks like there wasn't a very great purpose to the Tablet afterall. The reality of the device is pretty straightforward, and even then, we all questioned why there needed to be one at all.
 
GimmeSlack12 said:
Well, looks like there wasn't a very great purpose to the Tablet afterall. The reality of the device is pretty straightforward, and even then, we all questioned why there needed to be one at all.
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There's a big purpose. To sell content to people through the Apple store.

They only 'might' do that now. They could have cleaned up but I don't think this is the device to do that with.
 
I am very pleased with the IPad.

As a business person, I can see the IPad doing many things

With the dock to vga adapter Apple already is showing, plug it into a ultra compact projector and it is the ultimate presentation device. Compact and ready to roll.

When traveling, I can see leaving a laptop at home accessing email or speciality business applications that companies will make given the power and size of the device. I would still have my iphone, but on a plane or in a hotel room, carrying a 1.5 pound compact device in my bag would be easy and definitely more user friendly than a laptop sitting in coach on a plane.

I also see this being of strong interest to companies for route delivery and field sales personal. Having managed such staff, I would buy this over laptops especially when armored cases come out to protect it.

As an individual,

it is perfect as a ready access compact device to check email or surf the web at home. I am already planning to get one for my wife just for that.
 
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emotion said:
There's a big purpose. To sell content to people through the Apple store.
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Exactly. Now it's not just about selling individual devices, it's about selling devices that each produce a future continual revenue stream.

They only 'might' do that now. They could have cleaned up but I don't think this is the device to do that with.
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I agree. We heard a lot about how Apple was going to do wonderful things that no one had yet imagined, but in the end it's basically an oversized iPod touch. One thing that had been rumored but is surprisingly missing is a magazine subscription service. That would seem to be a natural for this content-providing device.
 
Eric S. said:
Exactly. Now it's not just about selling individual devices, it's about selling devices that each produce a future continual revenue stream.
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It sounds somewhat like the the console model. I think the margins on the iPad aren't that high compared to other products.

I think my concern is, short of hardware failure, how do you get someone to buy a new one down the road.
 
Eric S. said:
One thing that had been rumored but is surprisingly missing is a magazine subscription service. That would seem to be a natural for this content-providing device.
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I think Apple needed to get the horse out of the stall before they could attach the cart to it.
 
TX65 said:
I am very pleased with the IPad.

As a business person, I can see the IPad doing many things

With the dock to vga adapter Apple already is showing, plug it into a ultra compact projector and it is the ultimate presentation device. Compact and ready to roll.

When traveling, I can see leaving a laptop at home accessing email or speciality business applications that companies will make given the power and size of the device. I would still have my iphone, but on a plane or in a hotel room, carrying a 1.5 pound compact device in my bag would be easy and definitely more user friendly than a laptop sitting in coach on a plane.

I also see this being of strong interest to companies for route delivery and field sales personal. Having managed such staff, I would buy this over laptops especially when armored cases come out to protect it.

As an individual,

it is perfect as a ready access compact device to check email or surf the web at home. I am already planning to get one for my wife just for that.
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I am a bit of a road warrior selling medical devices. I am in front of very busy doctors who don't have much time. I want the iPad to work but don't see it happening for me. I would still feel better knowing i have a laptop nearby. I must say that the modbook is going to be my choice. I drive nearly 50,000 miles a year and want the GPS of the modbook as well.
I am hoping that inventive app developers will make the iPad a total machine.
 
Travel: tablet rather than book paper guides

Would have been nice to have the tablet on my honeymoon in Italy. Instead of a a stack of Lonely Planet guides weighing a few kilos, I could have had electronic versions on the nice tablet that doesn't weigh a kilo and easily fits into the knapsack. Also, the tablet would have been nice to upload photos from my camera for backup. And watch a few pre-loaded movies in the evening.

It is a luxury, to be sure, but a pleasant and useful luxury.





Ubuntu said:
Wait, what?
1. Netbooks are most definitely slower, but I thought that was common sense. They use batterylife-focused components.
2. When did people start buying netbooks to watch HD videos?
3. My netbook is actually very nice to use, I use it with a Dell 17 inch Studio and I have no issues switching.
4. I get 9 hours on this thing, still. How does that suck?
5. Try the NC10. I actually prefer the keyboard on this netbook to my Dell. The resolution isn't great, but it doesn't affect me.

The tablet will most definitely have great advantages over the netbook, but then it depends on what you want from the computer. I use mine for writing/programming, as do many of my friends - I can't begin to imagine how uncomfortable that would be with a tablet.
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Okay I got it: 80% of the nerds hate this thing....

BUT: I will get two: One for me because it is sooo light (oh boy, I soooo hate carrying around my Macbook Pro 17 - its so heavy, I had to trade my laptop-bag for a crumpler back-pack (which works quite nice))

And the second tablet for my mother (age 72) - although she has an eMac, she never really understood how this thing worked. But with this new tablet she finally will get a computer she understands !!!

This tablet is the computer for all those who do not want to think about how a computer works :) - They just can use it.

This is brilliant
 
ntmf said:
BUT: I will get two: One for me because it is sooo light (oh boy, I soooo hate carrying around my Macbook Pro 17 - its so heavy, I had to trade my laptop-bag for a crumpler back-pack (which works quite nice))
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I agree that a 17" laptop is too much to lug around, but I'd say do yourself a favor and get an MBP 13" or an MBA. You'll appreciate how much more powerful it is than the iPad thing.

And the second tablet for my mother (age 72) - although she has an eMac, she never really understood how this thing worked. But with this new tablet she finally will get a computer she understands !!!
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She may get an internet/entertainment device she can understand, but I wouldn't call it a computer.
 
LagunaSol said:
Originally Posted by Eric S. View Post
She may get an internet/entertainment device she can understand, but I wouldn't call it a computer.
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:rolleyes:
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He's right.. In my mind, a computer is something that runs an open OS and supports user-installed applications. This is a closed device, that falls short of being called a computer. I wouldn't call Kindle a "computer" either.
 
Opinion.

No camera. Why ?

The iPad is going to get a lot of use in the government,hospitals and schools. They don't like cameras. So no camera.

No multi-tasking. multi-tasking is way overblown. This is a device that is used for single app at a time. The only multi-tasking I would want to do on my iPhone or iPad is maybe listen to music while surfing or writing. Which you can do.

No USB ports! No Firewire port!!

Actually no ports at all..

This will discourage but not completely stop hacking.
 
ntmf said:
And the second tablet for my mother (age 72) - although she has an eMac, she never really understood how this thing worked. But with this new tablet she finally will get a computer she understands !!!
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I do see the value in this device - a "computer" for people who don't really need a computer. Hopefully Version 2.0 will correct the major limitations of this device (no Flash, no multi-tasking).
 
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