I've been an avid lurker here and other mac forums. I've been a Windows guy all of my life. I have wanted a mac since the core was based on bsd unix as I am a unix junkie. With that said. 1. Old Macbook Pro 2.5 - Apple Refurb 1499 (when its available) 2. New Macbook Pro 2.53 - 2499 Have ruled out old MBP 2.4 and new MBP 2.4 as I would like the additional VRAM just incase I'm trying to weigh the advantages/disadvantages * Price - Is the new one worth the extra 1000? Maybe. I don't want this to be my final decision point. I'm looking for more of the technical abilities. Old - Problem with GPU 8600GT - Does apple fix this with a refurb or do I still have that chance? 2 gb ram default New - New touchpad, 2 video cards, a different cpu, 1066 fsb, ddr3, 4 gb ram I would like to have this for 3-5 years, leaning towards the higher side. For the most part I would be doing the following: Office Applications Web Surfing Email Fusion or Parallels Bootcamp Photo editing/viewing / Video editing/viewing (nothing pro, just family photos and video) iTunes Gaming a possibility (when traveling and not having my consoles) and anything new that mac includes that I am unaware of since I haven't had much time to use one other than in the store! The previous generation looks like it will be sufficient right now, but would I miss out on possbile OS X 10.6, 10.7, etc? I've been reading and torturing myself as of late after waiting for the new one to come out to see what it offered. I know I want a mac, but want to make sure I get one that I know will get me quite a few years out of it. I've never been one to consider refurb, but it appears from my research that apple basically treats it like I'm buying new and allows for applecare to be added. I'd like to get new, but need to justify it to myself that the new one offers things that could be taken advantage of, etc. Sorry for my ramblings and appreciate any and all feedback on this.