What makes it worth going from 12.9 1st gen to 12.9 2nd gen?

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  1. ssledoux macrumors 6502

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    What on the new iPad Pro makes it worth it for you to upgrade from the 1st gen to the 2nd? I have been trying to reason with myself that keeping the 1st gen is a good idea, since I think I've at least decided downsizing to a 10.5 is NOT a good idea (for me anyway), but now I am thinking I really want the new one dangit.

    What about the new one is really worth the upgrade? I have a 128 gb now, and don't know that I'd need 512 gb, so I'm not sure that can really factor into my decision.

    If you're going from a 1st gen to 2nd gen, why?
     
  2. BeatCrazy macrumors 65816

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    Gotta be the display. I'm in love with TrueTone, and everything else just looks too blue/cool for the white balance, on traditional iPads/iPhones.
     
  3. AppleRobert macrumors 603

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    Nothing, my only decision would be if the 10.5” is worth going to over my current 12.9”. That is a pretty big savings instead of spending on another 12.9”, if I like the 10.5” I am going to go for it. Size difference, truetone, etc.
     
  4. ssledoux thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Yeah I'm afraid of going smaller. I use my iPP every day. It's replaced my Mac completely. As much as I love the portability factor of the 10.5, I think I'm going to have to stick with the 12.9.
     
  5. pika2000 macrumors 68030

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    Considering the 1st gen 12.9 already has 4GB of RAM, it would take a specific feature of the 2nd gen that you just cannot live without to upgrade. Hardware wise, I believe the 1st gen would last a while in terms of support.
     
  6. ssledoux thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I know. That's why I'm curious what might be making others decide to go for it.
     
  7. JayMysterio macrumors 6502

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    I can't think of a logical reason for going to 2nd gen, since it doesn't seem like a major upgrade. Staying with your 1st gen if you have one makes sense, and waiting for the next iteration which will should have a real reason for upgrading. Anything you've learned to live with now that maybe addressed in the 2nd gen, doesn't seem like something you can't continue to live with until 3rd gen. To me at least iPad Pro 12.9 2nd gen is for people who waited, and are now willing to make the jump.
     
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    What about someone who wants to get a 12.9 (currently using a 4th gen mini)? Can't decide if I want to spend ~500 on a used 1st gen or $875 on a new 2nd gen.
     
  10. JayMysterio macrumors 6502

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    If you have the money always go for the newest thing. :D If you aren't sure if you're going to like it though, grab a used one and help out someone going for the newest one. It's kind of bitter pill to swallow to find out you don't care for a product knowing you could have paid less for it. As said before the enhancements on the latest one aren't that life altering, just nice. The real improvements are on the IOS side which all iPads get.
     
  11. jmeas macrumors regular

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    I don't think the difference between the 1st and 2nd generation 12.9" warrants an upgrade. It could be as far as 1.5 years away, but I bet the next one will have smaller bezels, and therefore, a smaller footprint. It could be worth holding off until then.

    Unless you happen to have lots of money and it doesn't matter either way.
     
  12. lewisd25 macrumors 6502a

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    The biggest reason to upgrade is the 120hz refresh rate. The last gen 12.9” had a more noticeable lag, especially when swiping left/right, or scrolling up/down. The 9.7” had it too, but it was harder to notice due to the smaller screen.
     
  13. bufffilm macrumors 601

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    Buy the Pro2 if you need the new storage sizes. Less compelling on the display, but ymmv.

    The Pro1 is a still a powerhouse and those with it can stay on that till the next major refresh.
     
  14. danniexi macrumors 6502

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    ProMotion aka 120Hz. According to Gruber, the difference between the old and new displays is as different as going from non-Retina to Retina. Apparently, it's that big of a deal.
     
  15. Channan macrumors 68030

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    The refresh rate of the display is what I'm most excited about seeing.
    --- Post Merged, Jun 9, 2017 ---
    Dang. Beat me by a few seconds.
     
  16. ABC5S, Jun 9, 2017
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    Accumulative effect for an upgrade from version 1, to version 2.....

    1. 120 Hz
    2. CPU
    3. Camera (Both front and rear)
    4. Gen 2 Touch ID
    5. TrueTone
    6. 600 nit screen
    7. More storage than before

    And everything else below.

    https://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/
     
  17. rui no onna macrumors 601

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    Link to review, please? :) Google isn't being all that helpful. :(
     
  18. Chairman.Jobbie macrumors 6502

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    Im upgrading primarily because I want extra storage (512Gb) and the TrueTone display was the second important bonus factor that tipped it over. The pro-motion sounds like something id appreciate.

    (And I'm also getting a 10.5 to replace my mini 4 for the same reasons... but i love the portability of the mini so its gonna be a suck it and see for the 10.5... probably will be kept and mini 4 sold on (+ 1st gen iPP)).
     
  19. subjonas macrumors 6502a

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    I agree. It's an incremental update mainly to encourage people who did not purchase 1st gen to purchase now and get a bit more updated device. I don't think it's necessarily meant to entice 1st gen owners--UNLESS you weren't satisfied in some way with your 1st gen (storage, camera, refresh rate, true tone, etc). If the refresh rate is indeed as significant as going from non-retina to retina as people say, then as a 1st gen owner I need to stay away from 2nd gens. Ignorance is bliss and economic.
     
  20. The Game 161 macrumors G5

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    pretty much

    I'm coming from the 9.7 pro.
     
  21. Bryan Bowler macrumors 68040

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    ssdeloux,

    As I started reading this thread, I realized that I would simply list out the changes so you could compare them and see which ones, if any, would be important enough to you to upgrade. But it looks like ABC5S beat me to it with an excellent reply.

    When making upgrade decisions, I try to leave emotion at the door (it’s hard sometimes) and just focus on practicality instead. I would take each of the areas above and carefully think through just how important they are to you. The one thing you may have to wait and see for yourself in person is the 120 Hz refresh rate. I happened to see it in-person already and found it to be stunning, but I was at the event and pretty hyped up at the time. Anyway, that feature is something you have to see first. And if you use Apple Pencil a lot, especially for drawing, then this alone will be a pretty important upgrade to you.

    Anyway, write out what’s important to you and then take a look at how much you can reasonably sell your Gen 1 for and then see if the cost of the upgrade is worth it based on your needs. This helps lessen the “Shiny New Object” syndrome and sometimes makes the decision easier.

    Cheers,
    Bryan
     
  22. Chairman.Jobbie macrumors 6502

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    Yes and No. The 1st gen owners have enjoyed their iPad Pro's for a year and now get the chance to have all the latest refinements / tech (and extra storage). And they can sell the 1st gen to offset the price of the new Pro having gained a years usage out of it as a main computer. There is a chance 2nd gen owners won't upgrade next year.
     
  23. ssledoux thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Honestly it's not gonna be a significant price difference for me. I have my first gen nearly paid off on NEXT, and I can easily sell it off for more than my balance and pocket a little difference and put the new one on my account. I do that anyway because of needing LTE and because I have a really good insurance plan on my AT&T account.
     
  24. Bryan Bowler macrumors 68040

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    Hmmm. I don’t want to come across as a debbie-downer, but keep in mind that you’re still paying for it no matter what. That is the danger of monthly payment plans. In other words, it’s still the same money going out the door.

    Don’t get me wrong, if you just want it and can afford it, don’t hesitate and don’t look back! But if money is a concern, then it might be best to take a closer look to see if it is really worth it to you.

    Cheers!
     

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