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I currently have a MBP M2 and I was given a HP 24mh 24" monitor to use with it. It's kinda meh and the text is really small on it. I think it has something to do with the resolution but IDK its all a little confusing ...lol

Any who, I was thinking of getting a better monitor with the idea of eventually getting a Mac mini to use with it.

I read somewhere that hooking up with USB C is better than HDMI ? It this true ?

So what are you guys using ?

Thanks in advance
 
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Currently am using a 1920x1080 HDMI/TV as a monitor, but as my Mini is capable of 4K, am thinking of upgrading to a 4K/5K REAL monitor for extra text clarity.

USB-C is preferred for data display, HDMI does the job but it was designed for Home Theater. Some monitors have both USB-C and HDMI inputs for flexibility and/or you maybe moving this monitor to different devices.

My HDMI/TV is not working right with my Mini sleep function. I am not sure is the HDMI or the M4/MacOS problem.
 
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I guess I don't know what I am missing since I am still using 24" 1920x1080 monitors. I started out with 3 HP 24" monitors with my 2018 Mac mini and moved them over to my M4 Mac mini. They are old enough that they only work a 60 Hz refresh rate.

I have since replaced the three 24" HP monitors with three 24" Acer monitors that run at 100 Hz. They work fine for my uses.
 
I have used two LG 32" 4K (32UN880) monitors for years. First with a MacBook Pro M2 Max, and now with a Mini M4 Pro. I plan to get a Studio M5 Max this year and will continue using those monitors.
 
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I have a Benq 38" EX381U MOBIUZ. A base MiniPro, 4k up, to 120Hz. I run it at 60Hz thru HDMI, never had any
issues, the wifes M3 air is hooked up to it via USB-C again never an issue. The real estate is very nice. It runs the Xbox at 4k 120Hz thru the second HDMI. Try to find the monitor you can be happy with for now and the next 4-5 years. Good luck.
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I have run the Mini thru USB-C, I didn't notice difference between the 2 inputs. But I did have an issue when I went and purchased a rockfish 8k cable to upgrade the OEM cable, it did not work. I now use both OEM cables for the Mini and Air.
 
Then you should check the resolution, that monitor is 1920x1080 on 23.8", at native resolution everything should be a bit larger than normal.
It defaults to 1920x1080. When I lower the resolution the Text gets bigger but it get grainy UGH

Also, I quess I should have mentioned that Ive been using a 2014 iMac 27" and I'm spoiled by how good that monitor is and I'm debating on replacing it with a Mac mini. I'd like at least a 32" screen.

I'm just curious of what people are using for a monitor.

USB-C is preferred for data display,

So get USB-C and if it comes with HDMI even better ?
 
I wonder if Apple will fix the HDMI issues on the M5 Mac mini. It is common for the monitor to black out on occasion when using the Mac Mini's HDMI port. This has been an issue since the release of the 2018 Mac mini.

I use a HDMI to USBc cable for two of my monitors and a HDMI to HDMI cable for the third. The one using HDMI to HDMI will black out for a second or two.
 
I use BenQ MA270OU with my Mini M4. Text is crisp. Speaker is ok (not bad but not outstanding). It has tools that integrate better with Mac keyboard (volume, brightness etc).
I connect with HDMI as I need only display and sound. If you use usb C, you can also connect external disk and other devices to the monitor.
 
I'm using an LG C4 42 Oled. It's 4K and runs at 120Hz native. The display is very crisp and sharp, also for text. Also got a PS5 hooked up as it's good for gaming too. Once you get used to this size it's hard to go back to a smaller screen.
 
In late 2024 I got a great deal on this one from Woot, and wrote up not just my experience with it but also researching a display for my M4Pro Mac Mini.

Initial Thoughts on Dell UltraSharp U2723QE

Quite a bit has changed, but some of the basics are much the same.

1.) You'll likely get a 24" (small), 27" (mainstream) or 32" (big).

2.) If you get a 27", you'll likely pick between 4K (cheaper, many of us are happier with it) or 5K ('retina,' which some people find looks noticeably better (e.g.: sit close, sharp eye sight, do detail work)).

-----We may never see consensus on whether the difference between 4K & 5K at 27" is obvious or significant. Multiple people vigorously and in good faith assert either 'yay' or 'nay.'

3.) The preferential desirability of matte (less issue with reflections at a cost in fine detail) vs. glossy (finer detail) is another 'no consensus' topic, made harder because not all matte is created equal. I get the impression most non-Apple displays default to matte.

4.) 60-Hz is the mainstream refresh rate, but higher is better, and a lot of people like 120-Hz. Will you also use it for gaming?

5.) OLED is nice if you'll be gaming on it. I've heard mention of text quality taking a bit of a hit (no direct experience), but deep blacks and other benefits might sell you (read up on burn in).

6.) If you like 32", I'd be leery of 4K so I'd go for 6K, and the ASUS 6K 32", last I checked, was around $1,200+. If you want glossy, Search for Kuycon on the forum - there's a long running thread about it, including where to buy (be careful on that).

7.) USB-C or Thunderbolt (which jacks up display price) lets you use the display's 'hub' ports, if any. HDMI from what I understand does not. I don't know about DisplayPort, but USB-C uses 'DisplayPort Alt Mode' to work if IIRC, so maybe?

In the market today, you can get a brand name 4K 27" display cheap, and pretty cheap even with a 120-Hz refresh rate (I think Dell has one out), so first I'd put that on my list. Then I'd look at the (last I checked) roughly $800 ASUS 5K 27" and weigh rather 'retina' resolution (60-Hz refresh rate) was worth paying more. Then I'd look at their 6K 32" and consider size.

There are lots of good display options, but that's how my decision path would start today.
 
-----We may never see consensus on whether the difference between 4K & 5K at 27" is obvious or significant. Multiple people vigorously and in good faith assert either 'yay' or 'nay.'

Part of that is due to how everyone's eyes are different. Ask 10 people to look at one monitor and there will be 10 different opinions. What looks good or bad to one person may look different to another person.

I see the same thing when it comes to optics ranging from binoculars, telescopes and high power rifle scopes.
 
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I have a Dell UltraSharp U2723QE (27", 4k, as mentioned by drrich in reply 12 above).
I've been using it with an m4 Mini for about a year now.

It's been fine.
I started out using it at the default of "looks like 1080p".
But with Better Display I'm now using it at 2048x1152, and it still looks good.
"Looks like 1440p" (the default resolution for the Apple Studio display) would give text that is "too small" for me at normal font sizes (old eyes).

I have it connected to the Mini's HDMI port. Again, good.

But lately I've been hankerin' for 32", 6k.
Not the Apple displays, however -- not enough value for what you get in return for the premium pricing.

If you're looking to move up with a display, you have 3 basic ways to go:
- 27" 4k (many choices at all price points)
- 27" 5k (fewer choices, but pricier)
- 32" 6k (just a few of these yet, mid-high range prices)

Do you have a "price ceiling"?
 
I have a Dell UltraSharp U2723QE (27", 4k, as mentioned by drrich in reply 12 above).
I've been using it with an m4 Mini for about a year now.
They do look nice

If you're looking to move up with a display, you have 3 basic ways to go:
- 27" 4k (many choices at all price points)
- 27" 5k (fewer choices, but pricier)
- 32" 6k (just a few of these yet, mid-high range prices)

I'd like a 32" but just can't afford all the money if it needs to be 6k
Do you have a "price ceiling"?
$1000 is max but I dont want to spend that much



I'm actually leaning on

Dell 32 Plus 4K Monitor - S3225QS for $329 on Amazon​

Dell UltraSharp U3225QE 31.5" for $800​


Such a difference in price on Both I wish I could compare side by side. Both are 4k



Dell 27 Plus 4K USB-C Monitor - S2725QC for $315​

I'm using a iMac 27" now so I could live with the 27"

Dell UltraSharp DELL-U3225QE 27" for $769​


again, Such a difference in price on Both I wish I could compare side by side. Both are 4k


Not sure why I'm going with Dell ?

FWIW, I'm thinking HDMI only would be good enough for me if it comes down to that. I'm never gonna hook up anything to the monitor other than my MBP M2 or a new Mac mini if and when I get a Mac mini wich I probably will. My 2014 iMac is slowly dying and I'm not feeling a 24" iMac
 
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Best Buy and B&H have the ASUS ProArt PA32QCV 32" 6k on sale for 1,049 right now.
That might be, because I think there is a new model coming soon, but it will be up around 1,400...
see:
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I'd like a 32" but just can't afford all the money if it needs to be 6k
There are people content with 4K 32"; unless I knew somebody with one, or could at least mess with one at a store, and ideally that 'one' were being driven by a Mac and I pulled up some web pages and read fairly small fonts at typical viewing distance, I personally wouldn't trust it, but that's my judgment call.

While it may not 'need' to be 6K for everyone, and I think 4K is fine at 27", but it's my understanding a 32" display has close to 40% more area than a 27" display, and it's hard for me to imagine that doesn't make a significant difference.

But that's me. You also got this feedback:

I'm using an LG C4 42 Oled. It's 4K and runs at 120Hz native. The display is very crisp and sharp, also for text.
Who's right? Who judges? I dunno.
 
I’m going through the same monitor debate.

I’ve bought two monitors in the last 5 years - first Samsung, then Dell (much nicer) - and keep coming to the same conclusion; I should’ve just got the Studio Display.

So, I am going to go for it. It’s worth the few hundred more.
 
So, I am going to go for it. It’s worth the few hundred more.
That's been hotly debated. Haven't owned one; it's said to be similar to the old 27" iMac retina displays, which I have had. From reviews, here's what stuck in my mind regarding the last generation Apple Studio Displays:

Pro.s:

1.) High res. (retina).
2.) Glossy (unless you pay for nano texture).
3.) Built-in Center Stage webcam.
4.) Excellent 'spatial audio' speakers built-in.
5.) Made to work with Mac, so your Mac keyboard controls can make adjustments.
6.) Said to have good color right out of the box (good to know; most people don't custom calibrate their displays).
7.) Some people like the sturdy aluminum enclosure much better than plastic, and the 'minimalist industrial aesthetic' look.
8.) IIRC, the brightness can go higher than some competitors.

Con.s:

1.) Webcam quality was painted as mediocre. Opinions varied.
2.) The basic stand or a VESA mount was included in the price, but not both (why, Apple?!?!?), and the height-adjustable version stand was a ridiculous up-charge.
3.) Some people would prefer a higher performance webcam.
4.) In display speakers as a class have such a bad reputation that excellence here sounds like maybe being the 'best of a bad lot.' Probably fine for a lot of people, and in tight quarters like dorm rooms could be very nice. But many people already have nice external speakers.
5.) Very expensive.
6.) Big up-charge for AppleCare+ when at least some competitor 'included in the price' warranties offer longer coverage than Apple's basic (free) warranty coverage.
7.) Yes, the study metal frame that I suppose doesn't flex or creak when you handle and adjust it sounds nice, but the thing sits on your desk stationary most of the time. How many hundreds extra will you pay for 'a little extra pretty?'
8.) More hassle getting it to work with Windows PCs. You don't have a handy HDMI port for gaming consoles, etc. People may not buy these for gaming consoles, but at this price, wouldn't you want it to work with as much as you could?

There's nothing quite like it, so vs. competitors it's an 'apples to oranges' comparison. Do you compare it to competitor 5K 27" because they're cheaper, or competitor 6K 32" because they're bigger?

I'd like a 32" but just can't afford all the money if it needs to be 6k
Then I doubt you'll go for an Apple Studio Display. That said:

1.) They go on sale periodically.
2.) The Apple Refurb. Store often knocks around 15% off the price of things, IIRC.
3.) If you look at it as a longterm investment, and Apple makes quality gear, and you appreciate the webcam/speaker 'package deal' and a reliably high-quality beautiful display (and you're okay with 60-Hz refresh rate and just using with your Mac or whatever workarounds are needed for a Windows PC), then if you don't choke on the price, from reports many people love them.

To repeat, I have not owned a ASD. Does anyone who has think I misrepresented or got anything wrong in my reviews-based summary?
 
Having been on a similar train of thought, though I only considered 32”+ and 4K+ I have come down to two options:

1. The TCL 32R84 which is going for $749 at Bestbuy. It is the latest mini LED and gives better contrast and brightness without the OLED burn-in problems. It is “only” 4K though for a 32”.
2. The Kuycon P40K which is a wide 32” 4K with the Apple matching look. It is ~$1100 ocean shipped. Not nearly as bright but it is a Dell like IPS nano black LG panel.

I opted for the latter and will see if it ended being the right choice.
 
Asus ProArt 5K is what I'm using now. It's pretty nice for an LCD, not OLED but once I went 5K I couldn't go back. MacOS on 4K either has everything huge or everything tiny and I didn't want to mess with fractional scaling which blurs lines and pixels.

I hear Windows on 4K is a better experience since you can scale the UI to 150%, but most things still assume and are designed for whole number pixels no matter what your OS setting is.
 
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