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By the way, no offense to real hippies, it's these 18 year old suburban trust fund wanna-bes. For goodness sakes, embrace who you are, and be liberal in mind. Conforming to some hippie dress code makes you no better than the conservative and his brooks brothers suit. I'm far more progressive in my office because I deviate from the white shirt routine that everyone else does. I don't need dreads to be a wacko.
 
At work I am suffering with a Compaq P3-600 with 360 MB. And XP will still drop to a craw! I think it has something to do with the network, though.

At home I have a Compaq Contura Aero (486SX-25, 8 MB, 170MB HD) that got me through my undergrad and started my MS. I still use it for my journals and other writing (and to play Civ once in a while!).

In grad school I bought a PowerBook 266 w/128MB. By not upgrading on every whim, I had saved enough money to do a serious purchase when the time came. No kickbacks from the parents here. I got through college debt free with some good sound planning (thanks Mom!), a few scholarships, and a lot of hard work.

In the next few months I will probably get an iMac, but I am waiting for the next revision.
 
Originally posted by mcrain
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I went to Michigan and majored in engineering, followed by law school at Illinois. I consider myself pretty liberal, but if some wacky west coast hippy tried to make it here in the midwest, they'd end up limping home with corn sticking out of their nude hippy butts.

We don't have the weather or scenery of the west coast, but I guess it's worth it to avoid the nappy rich hippies.



want the truth?

many of these hippies come from out of state...maybe even michigan

and the corn thing in the nude butt is probably some sort of fad some would enjoy in santa cruz:D
 
Old comps

My school has some pretty bad old Wintel boxes, they have second hand keyboards(They stick) They have random moniters, and parts of them are missing. As for the Mac lab it is filled with blue iMacs:) I hope they update them soon. Oh and one good note, their is a new elemetary school being built in our town, and all of the computers are going to be NEW IMACS! I envy them soooo much! I had Apple 2 GS in my day(Oregen Trail was the best) Hopefully this should get some new converts.
 
Originally posted by jefhatfield


unlike most high school and college students who may have some help from mom and dad, many grad students are on their own and there are tons of "starving graduate" students out there

first, there is the higher tuition per unit


Wait a second. Maybe I was spoiled as an engineer, but most engineering grad students in engineering get tuition wavers and about 12-20k a year on top of that. Match that with student loans, and you live better than you did in undergrad.
 
Originally posted by mcrain
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I went to Michigan and majored in engineering, followed by law school at Illinois. I consider myself pretty liberal, but if some wacky west coast hippy tried to make it here in the midwest, they'd end up limping home with corn sticking out of their nude hippy butts.

We don't have the weather or scenery of the west coast, but I guess it's worth it to avoid the nappy rich hippies.

Just like Mathew Sheppard?
 
Um......no.

Matt Shepard was just Gay. No Prob.

These folks are.........well.........exactly what I dislike most about trustfund babies. These idiots are only alive cuz they're so eco-brainwashed extremist that if they had any real conviction they'd ****ing kill themselves.

These fools believe that the white male (most of them ARE white males) homo sapien is some abortion of nature that some evil extraterrestrial created as a sick joke just to screw with Gaia.

The females of this particular sect eventually screw their way through the whole student body until they decide that being a Lesbian would be the ultimate piss-off for Daddy.

Neo-Hippy-Gutterpunks play both sides of the fence as if it's not hypocritical. They will profess....in the same breath mind you....that Abortion is Wrong and that "Wymyn" should be able to do what they want with their bodies.

They've melded what their prof's want to hear with what they think will get them laid into the most abnoxious and misinformed stillborn Dogma in history.
 
Originally posted by buffsldr


Wait a second. Maybe I was spoiled as an engineer, but most engineering grad students in engineering get tuition wavers and about 12-20k a year on top of that. Match that with student loans, and you live better than you did in undergrad.



that has been the case with "some" grad students, but not the average grad student from what i have seen and we live in different states with different systems...you are a mechanical engineer and i am a network engineer (no shortage of us around)

if you are connected with a brick and mortar, which most traditional engineers are of the mechanical, metallurgical, structural, and civil engineers; you probably have an infrastructure that pays for senior engineers to get further education

in high tech in the silicon valley, we are at the lowest time in our history and most of us are tied to one of the 2600+ IT companies in the region

now maybe you are in a computer company, but i am talking in general here and i have not heard of many computer/network/software engineers that got their education paid for by somebody else

traditional non-computer engineers do not often consider us real engineers since i don't recall 4 years of physics, chemistry, and calculus...he he (i got my ba in a business subject and later took the certification route...some got their mba or some other non-techie master's or phd then went the certification route because the pay is there right now in IT)

a lot of computer related engineers, some with huge salaries, never recieved any college degree and not all of us in computers are good in math either...thank god for math co-processors;)

the main society of engineers, or ieee, wants to toss out the designation of engineer for software engineers and programmers and just let the ee's and el's have that title...oh well, as long as i get paid i will be happy being called a computer slave boy...which we all are...unless we are slave girls:D
 
ps - very few of us consider ourselves real engineers...we are just called that at work for a lack of a better title like network dude, systems dude, programmer dude, and q and a dude (or dudette...it that a term?:p :p :p
 
Originally posted by buffsldr
Wait a second. Maybe I was spoiled as an engineer, but most engineering grad students in engineering get tuition wavers and about 12-20k a year on top of that.
Engineering grad students in engineering might, but engineering grad students in English sure don't!

Haha! Ha! Hahaha! Hahahah. Ha. Haha. Ah.

Alex
 
Originally posted by mcrain
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I went to Michigan and majored in engineering, followed by law school at Illinois. I consider myself pretty liberal, but if some wacky west coast hippy tried to make it here in the midwest, they'd end up limping home with corn sticking out of their nude hippy butts.

We don't have the weather or scenery of the west coast, but I guess it's worth it to avoid the nappy rich hippies.

Really, what years were you there? Are we talkin' about Michigan State University, or Michigan University (Wolverines)
 
Originally posted by buffsldr


Just like Mathew Sheppard?

...i remember after that incident there was this christian identity group that condemned mathew shepard and blamed him for getting killed because of his sexual preference

i know religion has been a popular topic here on macrumors this month, but any christian, jew, muslim, hindu, bhuddist, or any others who condemn someone to death or agree to killing in the name of god is truly lost

i have strong views on this because i did missionary work in belfast and the previous christian who got sent to the area before me was shot and killed by the british soldiers on falls road in belfast...and he was an ordained british minister from the church of england

well, now i an well off topic;)

hey krossfyter, help me out here...he he
 
i know i will never be god in heaven, but if i ever make it to a level of a real network administrator, i will take on god like power...he he

only the chp in california is more revered or feared...thanks to eric estrada

now we need a show where a network administrator and his network engineer underlings could be a hero in a nighttime tv series called "tcp/ip diaries" or something like that...nah, that would never fly:D

or how about the "adventures of subnetting"
 
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