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What on Earth is happening at Apple QC? LAUGHABLE BUG
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Letting non-developers use beta versions was a mistake.
Yes, you acknowledged it is a beta but you did so with the wrong conclusion. You called it a mistake. No, it is just a bug. Something common in betas which is pre-release software.
It isn't a QC issue when a beta version of software has a bug.
Yes, you acknowledged it is a beta but you did so with the wrong conclusion. You called it a mistake. No, it is just a bug. Something common in betas which is pre-release software.
It isn't a QC issue when a beta version of software has a bug.
whining about bugs in a beta, lol like what? how did we get there?
When Apple let anyone run a beta. It was better when it was locked down because the vast majority of the public has no idea what a beta means. They gloss over and skip all the warnings and terms.
Are you able to provide an example of a stable release software that doesn't have any bugs? If not, sorry to say, but it's a beta release
Maybe if the point you want to make is about stable releases make a post about an actual bug in a stable release instead of moaning about people rightfully pointing out the pointlessness of b*tchinh about bugs in a beta?
The same thing happened with launchpad in lion. Some betas are more polished than others but that’s rare. I read your post but I still think you’re wrong. Every beta has bugs…that’s why it’s a beta version. They even say don’t use it on your primary device because it can be unreliable.
Just look at all the betas and releases that bricked devices. This isn’t new.
Just look at all the betas and releases that bricked devices. This isn’t new.
Beta… full stop. I assume as a beta tester you did file a bug?
Its a beta, at one time the iteration that we beat the death internally was called alpha, the beta had glitches - an icon that was too dim or misplaced - but the api's were basically solid so developers could test their rigs on a near release environment with an opportunity to fine tune before release date, now beta means what ? not sure
Yes apologies, I’m on beta 3.
Are you saying I caused the home screen icons to disappear?😂
Haha Ive been at MR since 2011, and had the newest iPhone every year since 3G.
Bugs have only recently started getting this bad again in my experience. I’ve been reporting them across the years, and all reports bar one are sitting there unread😂
Alpha is typically internal, a first round functional build, a beta is more polished and usually mostly feature complete but still buggy but typically includes more people including at least some customers in the testing. That’s been true for a long time in most of the field… and that’s what this is…
It's annoying. Benjamin Mayo from 9to5Mac also noted the icon issue in last week's "Happy Hour" podcast. The icons are not being kept in memory and the OS is re-rendering them. I think it's the Liquid Glass design.
I did a macOS public beta once or twice before realizing how little appetite I have for my machine running hot, slow and buggy. So I just never did it again.
I have zero patience for people who come onto forums to whinge about bugs in a beta since surfacing the bugs is literally the point of the process.
i saved a screenshot of this happening in production, not beta.
Really? 😧 I thought the 'Beta' under Developer Betas that I downloaded was a joke?! 😂
On a serious note, have a scour through the forums - the stable releases have mountains of bugs. There's forum members who have bugs from iOS17..
From my point of view - Apple doesnt seem to listen to beta feedback - leaves reports sitting there (I'll check my dev account, I am pretty sure some of my reports are from 2018 or even earlier - still unseen😅), and Apple still has the audacity to pre-install the feedback app on all beta software.
Why even pretend anymore? 😅
Given how uninvolved Apple is in attending to actual reports (some of them take a bit to write up/capture) - we might as well treat the Betas as a cute-half finished peek into the next version - with absolutely no intention of providing feedback.
Thats my 2 cents - open to different thoughts✌️🙂
Sure, but what most people don't seem to know: "beta" does not mean "VIP, invite-only, super-exclusive early access version for cool people who are extra-special". It simply means "unfinished version for people who want to help with bug finding".
So (and apologies to Contact_Feanor, as I’m replying to a number of posts at the same time), this issue is one that a large number of testers have had since iOS 26 beta 1, reported throughout the entire beta cycle, and the bug shipped in iOS 26. Then it was present in iOS 26.1 beta 1 throughout its beta cycle, and is present in the release version of iOS 26.1, and has now been present through all the betas of 26.2.
It persists through a restore and setup as new, at least on an iPhone 15 Pro Max. It’s definitely present on both my parents iPhone 17’s, non-pro, both of which only run release software.
This isn’t some obscure bug; I’m sure there are a lot of folks out there who’s use or configuration doesn’t make the issue apparent to them, but if it’s reproducible on a DFU restore as new without logging into iCloud, it’s the software, straight up. I spent seven years troubleshooting Apple hardware at the Genius Bar, and this is absolutely the sort of thing a fresh install used to fix. It simply doesn’t anymore.
That’s straight crazy. Apple makes the hardware, decides what range of hardware an OS can run on, codes the software, and provides both the backup/restore functionality and data sync functionality. It’s nuts that this obvious of an issue can persist through, by my quick count, 10 betas and 2 release versions. I’ve tried each beta as a restore and setup as new without syncing, since it’s my test device, and it’s present on every single install. It’s so much worse if you actually try and use the new visual candy, like having your app icons clear with a colored background to show off “Liquid Glass”.
“It’s a beta” doesn’t work as an explanation here, since it’s also been glaringly obvious on two release versions. “Your configuration/“doesn’t happen on mine so it must be an issue on your end”” also doesn’t work, since it’s easily reproducible on a factory fresh general release if you use the features as advertised; the OS does not work as expected on Apples own hardware with a fresh install. Simple as that.
I’ve been an Apple fanboi for years, but ignoring the obvious slide in their QC over the years is just a bridge too far. It feels like Apple fans are in an abusive relationship now, and can’t acknowledge when Apple’s products make something from MS, which doesn’t have the same vertical integration, look reliable as hell.
That’s the issue here; folks keep saying “but it’s a beta!!!” when those who’ve been using each beta are saying “after something like ten betas and two release versions this insane bug is still somehow present”.
It’s funny too, so many issues like this used to fix themselves once spotlight indexing etc finished after the update; this particular bug seems to go away after each update and then pops back up a few hours later.