What parts are missing from this G4 tower?

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  1. aggrolounge macrumors newbie

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    Okay - so I got this PowerMac G4 tower as a hand-me-down machine. I am
    a long time Mac user but I've NEVER dissected one or installed any
    hardware myself. I was warned that the machine might be missing some
    parts.
    So what I need to know is.. what's missing?
    The computer will boot up, but it isn't recognizing my KDS monitor
    (although I don't think I need any kind of adapter, since it hooks up
    and fits and everything). I'm worried that perhaps I'm missing a
    graphics card?
    That's the only concern I've run into so far, but if there are other
    parts missing I need to know about those as well! TIA
     

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  2. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    The lack of RAM and a hard drive is glaringly obvious.
     
  3. aggrolounge thread starter macrumors newbie

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    :p I told you I didn't know what I was doing. So there is a graphics card? I don't even know what I'm looking for. Can I run my computer from an external HD? If so, that's not a problem.. as for RAM.. well, what do you recommend?
     
  4. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    The video is there in the AGP slot. You'll need PC133 SDRAM. It will run off of an external FireWire hard drive.
     
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  6. aggrolounge thread starter macrumors newbie

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    It's actually a USB external.. and it requires two USB slots x.x

    EDIT: Oh, so it won't even support that drive? That's def a problem..
     
  7. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    You'll need FireWire.

    The serial and original specifications will be on the back.

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3082
     
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    A newer G4 or G5 system in target mode should also work as startup disk I guess.
     
  9. PenguinPower macrumors member

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    I got a chuckle out of the foxconn sticker, but other than what has been mentioned, I don't see anything obviously missing. Unless, of course, they swapped out the G4 for part of a wooden door shim then put the heatsink back on. ;)


    Also, it seems to be missing its Windows 2000 certified logo on the front. :p
     
  10. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    Apple was very creative with the PowerPC 74xx heatsinks. You'd see them vary on the same model line but with different processors.

    Open Firmware could be modified to allow booting off of the USB device but you were pretty much stuck at just enabling it.

    PC133 SDRAM is the safest be for compatibility and availability.
     
  11. PenguinPower macrumors member

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    Different wattage to dissipate, different HS. Sounds like a reasonable solution.
     
  12. aggrolounge thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Eh, is there any kind of USB-to-Firewire adapter or something? Desperation ensues..
     
  13. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    It doesn't exist. Putting another PowerPC Mac into Target Disk Mode, installing a new hard drive in one of the other trays, or using a FireWire external are your options.

    Unless you happen to have an OS X Server around to NetBoot off of.
     
  14. aggrolounge thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Ugh, I doubt this thing is even worth the amount I'd spend on a harddrive. Oh well, thanks for the help!
     
  15. jodelli macrumors 65816

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    IDE drives are cheap, otherwise known as PATA, as opposed to SATA that is currently used. Just plug it in to the loose ribbon connector that's under the power supply and the four pin power plug that's lying closest. They're one way plugs, so you can't screw it up.

    The hard drive can just lie there beneath the power supply until you get things sorted out.
     
  16. localoid macrumors 68020

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    Don't forget about the 128MB drive size limit for external drives... unless it's a mirror door drive PowerMac.
     
  17. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    The Quicksilver 2002 had 48-bit LBA.

    Also GB.
     

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