What are you talking about, I have the whole microsoft studio on my windows 2k prof virtual pc and it works fine.
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What are you talking about, I have the whole microsoft studio on my windows 2k prof virtual pc and it works fine.
Ahh, good to know.. I thought I must have missed something because I've tried the VS.net install on pretty much all the Macs I have available to me and never managed to get it to work.
VS6 is now 3 versions back with VS.net having major changes in features (different warning flags, watch windows, debug options, etc.; it's so different that most books have to have 2 different instructional explainations on how to go about doing many operations) and implementations/UI (besides the whole ".net" framework that I really don't take advantage of.) There really aren't that many changes between VS.net and the current VS.net 2003.
all you guys have really been helpful
i suck at programming and if i had to muscle through issues with virualpc on an ibook which would be slow and a difficult or even impossible insall of the .net programming suite, it would make school that much more difficult
for the studies part, i will get that pc laptop replacement when i need it...and of course, for using as a troubleshooting mechanism for my tech clients
i wish when the woz basically, for all intents and purposes, invented the pc, that he should have patented the term personal computer, leaving ibm no clear option what to call their machine...that little gesture may have changed things enough and we all would be using macs and not having to have this cross platform discussion
i suck at programming and if i had to muscle through issues with virualpc on an ibook which would be slow and a difficult or even impossible insall of the .net programming suite, it would make school that much more difficult
for the studies part, i will get that pc laptop replacement when i need it...and of course, for using as a troubleshooting mechanism for my tech clients
i wish when the woz basically, for all intents and purposes, invented the pc, that he should have patented the term personal computer, leaving ibm no clear option what to call their machine...that little gesture may have changed things enough and we all would be using macs and not having to have this cross platform discussion
Ditto for Dells (horrible service). They have farmed out all of their consumer tech support to India...my friend has a Dell laptop, which has had many problems (no surprise, being a PC and a Dell), and their tech support ppl have been totally useless.
IBM is the best, but you pay. Between Dell and Gateway...I think it got slightly better reliability ratings in the PC Magazine survey...but both will be kind of cheap and not have good service. Avoid Compaq like the plague - they have terrible reliability ratings, and I know someone who had a Compaq and had to have it replaced like 4 times (I assume HP is bad too). You might want to take a look at Fujitsu or some other company that uses Mobile Athlon processors...they're not great processors, but they're better than the P4-M (as is pretty much anything), and cheaper than the Pentium M.
I know a couple people who have Toshiba Satellite Laptops and love them. I've never actually owned one but they're worth looking into.
RE: DELL LAPTOPS
About a year ago, we ordered Dell laptops for a bunch of people in the office. The models ranged from middle of the road to ultra-high end.... Out of the 5-6 people who got them, all but one have had major problems. Mine took a dump on me 2 weeks ago. Not cool.
About a year ago, we ordered Dell laptops for a bunch of people in the office. The models ranged from middle of the road to ultra-high end.... Out of the 5-6 people who got them, all but one have had major problems. Mine took a dump on me 2 weeks ago. Not cool.
Maybe. But that doesn't change the fact the Compaq got an either a D or an F (forget which one) in the laptop reliability survey by PC Mag.
Yep Compaq sucks
Here's the link: PC Mag Survey
There's the article and a great .PDF that is unfortunately too big to attach here.
For Jeff, IBM appears to be your best bet.
Here's the link: PC Mag Survey
There's the article and a great .PDF that is unfortunately too big to attach here.
For Jeff, IBM appears to be your best bet.
Compaq still blows
Granted, I hadn't noticed that. But, that doesn't negate the information, at the time Compaq built the worst computers they surveyed for, taking surveys for what they are worth, it does tell us something about the consumer experience in relation to more than a single person. Anything can be proved with anecdotal evidence, like Windows is stable
But, I did see a consumer reports article earlier this year that stated Compaq as one of the worst. I tried to find the Consumer Reports article, but I don't feel like spending 4.95.
PC Mag appears to have abandoned the consumer version of their reports, for what it's worth the reviewers like one of the new HP models, but this seems dubious at best considering that the HP-Compaq merger was a merger between an E/E and a C/B+. I would very much doubt that this merger created enough of a synergy to remove the kind of poor build-quality these reports show. Maybe in another year, but in my personal experience Compaq has always sucked, their desktop's BIOS is an absolute piece of junk.
leet1 I know you like your Compaqs, you keep mentioning them, but they don't seem to have a high quality overall, hence I wouldn't suggest a machine I wouldn't buy to another person.
Granted, I hadn't noticed that. But, that doesn't negate the information, at the time Compaq built the worst computers they surveyed for, taking surveys for what they are worth, it does tell us something about the consumer experience in relation to more than a single person. Anything can be proved with anecdotal evidence, like Windows is stable
But, I did see a consumer reports article earlier this year that stated Compaq as one of the worst. I tried to find the Consumer Reports article, but I don't feel like spending 4.95.
PC Mag appears to have abandoned the consumer version of their reports, for what it's worth the reviewers like one of the new HP models, but this seems dubious at best considering that the HP-Compaq merger was a merger between an E/E and a C/B+. I would very much doubt that this merger created enough of a synergy to remove the kind of poor build-quality these reports show. Maybe in another year, but in my personal experience Compaq has always sucked, their desktop's BIOS is an absolute piece of junk.
leet1 I know you like your Compaqs, you keep mentioning them, but they don't seem to have a high quality overall, hence I wouldn't suggest a machine I wouldn't buy to another person.
Re: Compaq still blows
Compaqs are probably the worst computers you can buy right now. Earned that position since Packard Bell died. Might as well use the extra money you might use to buy youself some sturdy rope.
As for the Ut2k3 thing. I can play it on my 675 p3 with 256 and a 64mb 3dfx card. All ancient parts. I'd be thoughly surprised it if made any p4 computer stutter assuming it had at least at 256 ram.
Originally posted by hulugu
Granted, I hadn't noticed that. But, that doesn't negate the information, at the time Compaq built the worst computers they surveyed for, taking surveys for what they are worth, it does tell us something about the consumer experience in relation to more than a single person. Anything can be proved with anecdotal evidence, like Windows is stable
But, I did see a consumer reports article earlier this year that stated Compaq as one of the worst. I tried to find the Consumer Reports article, but I don't feel like spending 4.95.
PC Mag appears to have abandoned the consumer version of their reports, for what it's worth the reviewers like one of the new HP models, but this seems dubious at best considering that the HP-Compaq merger was a merger between an E/E and a C/B+. I would very much doubt that this merger created enough of a synergy to remove the kind of poor build-quality these reports show. Maybe in another year, but in my personal experience Compaq has always sucked, their desktop's BIOS is an absolute piece of junk.
leet1 I know you like your Compaqs, you keep mentioning them, but they don't seem to have a high quality overall, hence I wouldn't suggest a machine I wouldn't buy to another person.
Compaqs are probably the worst computers you can buy right now. Earned that position since Packard Bell died. Might as well use the extra money you might use to buy youself some sturdy rope.
As for the Ut2k3 thing. I can play it on my 675 p3 with 256 and a 64mb 3dfx card. All ancient parts. I'd be thoughly surprised it if made any p4 computer stutter assuming it had at least at 256 ram.
Re: Re: Compaq still blows
Ever heard of Gateway? Nuff said. lol
If you buy a Compaq presario and don't like it, Send me a PM and I can get someone to buy it off you
Heres two nice reviews of it.
http://shop.bizrate.com/marketplace/product_info/reviews__cat_id--462,prod_id--7376969.html
Use Eopinions and bizrate.com to help you get user opinions on different ones. I wouldn't really go by on solely what people have said here(especially since this is a mac forum )
Ever heard of Gateway? Nuff said. lol
If you buy a Compaq presario and don't like it, Send me a PM and I can get someone to buy it off you
Heres two nice reviews of it.
http://shop.bizrate.com/marketplace/product_info/reviews__cat_id--462,prod_id--7376969.html
Use Eopinions and bizrate.com to help you get user opinions on different ones. I wouldn't really go by on solely what people have said here(especially since this is a mac forum
)
Re: Re: Re: Compaq still blows
the four year old laptop i have now getting ready for replacement is a compaq presario 1200 series
not well received, as i have read in reviews then, but the presario model as a whole has improved greatly...thank you, hp...but the dell, sony, toshiba, and ibm's seem the better machine and they all look pretty nice...except for ibm who doesn't put a dime into their industrial design but must make up for it in the insides of the machine
Originally posted by leet1
Ever heard of Gateway? Nuff said. lol
If you buy a Compaq presario and don't like it, Send me a PM and I can get someone to buy it off you
Heres two nice reviews of it.
http://shop.bizrate.com/marketplace/product_info/reviews__cat_id--462,prod_id--7376969.html
Use Eopinions and bizrate.com to help you get user opinions on different ones. I wouldn't really go by on solely what people have said here(especially since this is a mac forum
the four year old laptop i have now getting ready for replacement is a compaq presario 1200 series
not well received, as i have read in reviews then, but the presario model as a whole has improved greatly...thank you, hp...but the dell, sony, toshiba, and ibm's seem the better machine and they all look pretty nice...except for ibm who doesn't put a dime into their industrial design but must make up for it in the insides of the machine
Re: Re: Re: Re: Compaq still blows
FYI
IBM Thinkpads are part of the permanent collection at the Museum of Modern Art in New York. (so I guess someone disagrees with your design critique...)
Originally posted by jefhatfield
except for ibm who doesn't put a dime into their industrial design but must make up for it in the insides of the machine
FYI
IBM Thinkpads are part of the permanent collection at the Museum of Modern Art in New York. (so I guess someone disagrees with your design critique...)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Compaq still blows
i love to read laptop magazine and in the last several years, the most highly rated laptop besides dell for all price points has been the ibm models...so for funtionality and reliability, ibm is top in their book
i just hate their looks, but i know that for a portable, that is really the last thing i am concerned about
now if apple's machines ran on windows, but still brought their famous ruggedness and reliability to the market, plus it's untouchable industrial design, it would put ibm to shame and i am sure laptop magazine would rate apple laptops better than the dells
but the reality is, apple inc does not make machines for the wintel market, so many out there will never know what we all do about the great strength, reliability, and consistency we mac users have known for many years...sometimes our enthusiasm have made others on the outside think that we are some sort of cult...but strange as it is, there have been some fools out there who have managed to make apple inc their everything and thus making macs a cult for them
i love to read laptop magazine and in the last several years, the most highly rated laptop besides dell for all price points has been the ibm models...so for funtionality and reliability, ibm is top in their book
i just hate their looks, but i know that for a portable, that is really the last thing i am concerned about
now if apple's machines ran on windows, but still brought their famous ruggedness and reliability to the market, plus it's untouchable industrial design, it would put ibm to shame and i am sure laptop magazine would rate apple laptops better than the dells
but the reality is, apple inc does not make machines for the wintel market, so many out there will never know what we all do about the great strength, reliability, and consistency we mac users have known for many years...sometimes our enthusiasm have made others on the outside think that we are some sort of cult...but strange as it is, there have been some fools out there who have managed to make apple inc their everything and thus making macs a cult for them