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Sid The Kid

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Hello,

I will buy a new iPad soon but I need some advice first. I will buy between the 2016 iPad Pro 9.7" and the 2017 iPad 9.7". Both have 32GB storage.

2016 iPad Pro 9.7" 794$ at Bestbuy:

A9X 64-bit
2GB RAM
Front 5MP
Rear 12MP
10 hours battery life
437g (weight)
Four speakers
6.1mm thin

2017 9.7" iPad (with 1 additional year of Apple Care) 607$:

A9 64-bit
2GB OR 1.85 RAM?
10 hours battery life
Rear 8 MP
Front 1.2MP
469g (weight)
7.5mm thin

I read the 2017 iPad doesn't have a laminated screen. What does that mean? Does it a have a anti-reflective coating? And what are air gap on the screen?

I don't see what the 2017 iPad has better than the 2016 iPad Pro. Probably nothing. I watched a video and the 2017 iPad was quicker but the guy said he had more files on the other iPad.

Is it worth it?

Thank you
 

Diving Capers

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The 2017 10.5 with 64GB is $649 directly from Apple, why wouldn't you consider that?

That 9.7 pro is way overpriced.

Edit: both your examples are overpriced. The 2017 iPad 32GB is $329.
 

rui no onna

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I don't see what the 2017 iPad has better than the 2016 iPad Pro. Probably nothing. I watched a video and the 2017 iPad was quicker but the guy said he had more files on the other iPad.
Price, that's it. The 2017 iPad is basically a downgraded Pro 9.7 (in terms of display, CPU and accessories).

Both seem too expensive, though. Why is the price that high?
 
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Sid The Kid87

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Oops! I forgot to mention that the prices are in Canadian Dollar.

So as you can see in the picture, the stock price is 429$. 429 + 99$ (Apple Care+) = 528$ 528$ + 79,07 (taxes) = 607,07$

So 2017 9.7" iPad is 607.07$.
2016 iPad Pro is 794,36$

So the difference between both is only 187,29$

The 2017 iPad Pro with AppleCare+ and taxes would exceed 1000$ and there's no 32GB so it's an overkill.

So what should I do?
 

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TheRealAlex

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Hello,

I will buy a new iPad soon but I need some advice first. I will buy between the 2016 iPad Pro 9.7" and the 2017 iPad 9.7". Both have 32GB storage.

2016 iPad Pro 9.7" 794$ at Bestbuy:

A9X 64-bit
2GB RAM
Front 5MP
Rear 12MP
10 hours battery life
437g (weight)
Four speakers
6.1mm thin

2017 9.7" iPad (with 1 additional year of Apple Care) 607$:

A9 64-bit
2GB OR 1.85 RAM?
10 hours battery life
Rear 8 MP
Front 1.2MP
469g (weight)
7.5mm thin

I read the 2017 iPad doesn't have a laminated screen. What does that mean? Does it a have a anti-reflective coating? And what are air gap on the screen?

I don't see what the 2017 iPad has better than the 2016 iPad Pro. Probably nothing. I watched a video and the 2017 iPad was quicker but the guy said he had more files on the other iPad.

Is it worth it?

Thank you

Neither Both have 2GB RAM and will be obsolete and not supported with iOS updates in one or two cycles Apple will cut off 2GB RAM devices.

If you can wait it out Next Years iPad Pro with No Home Button and OLED Display should be Amazing the first 4K HDR OLED iPad Pro
 

Sid The Kid87

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Neither Both have 2GB RAM and will be obsolete and not supported with iOS updates in one or two cycles Apple will cut off 2GB RAM devices.

If you can wait it out Next Years iPad Pro with No Home Button and OLED Display should be Amazing the first 4K HDR OLED iPad Pro

The iPad is for my mom and she can't wait much longer anymore because the old iPad (iPad 2) is getting really really slow and sluggish. She only use it for normal everyday web browsing, emails... so nothing too much intensive and obviously the iPad won't replace a computer (We will buy an iMac soon).

4K HDR OLED iPad Pro? It will cost too much for a tablet and it will be a huge overkill for us.
 

blwade

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Neither Both have 2GB RAM and will be obsolete and not supported with iOS updates in one or two cycles Apple will cut off 2GB RAM devices.

If you can wait it out Next Years iPad Pro with No Home Button and OLED Display should be Amazing the first 4K HDR OLED iPad Pro

There are no facts in this statement at all (other than they both have 2gb of ram). It’s all speculation.

IMO - based on usage info provided, either is more than capable to fulfill need... i’d personally probably grab the pro for that price difference unless the savings from buying the 2017 was critical. That way, if you do want to try the pencil or keyboard, you have the option in the future.
 

Diving Capers

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Oops! I forgot to mention that the prices are in Canadian Dollar.

So as you can see in the picture, the stock price is 429$. 429 + 99$ (Apple Care+) = 528$ 528$ + 79,07 (taxes) = 607,07$

So 2017 9.7" iPad is 607.07$.
2016 iPad Pro is 794,36$

So the difference between both is only 187,29$

The 2017 iPad Pro with AppleCare+ and taxes would exceed 1000$ and there's no 32GB so it's an overkill.

So what should I do?

I'd go for the Pro, it has a better screen, better speakers, slightly better CPU, supports the ASK and the Apple Pencil.
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Neither Both have 2GB RAM and will be obsolete and not supported with iOS updates in one or two cycles Apple will cut off 2GB RAM devices.

If you can wait it out Next Years iPad Pro with No Home Button and OLED Display should be Amazing the first 4K HDR OLED iPad Pro

Apart from the amount of RAM, everything you wrote is wrong.

No soup for you!!!
 

augustya

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If you can wait it out Next Years iPad Pro with No Home Button and OLED Display should be Amazing the first 4K HDR OLED iPad Pro

Wait ! What ? Where did you get this information ?? There is no information on this anywhere ? The 2018 iPad Pro there are no leaks in information for that !! Where did you get that ?
 
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The Game 161

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Neither Both have 2GB RAM and will be obsolete and not supported with iOS updates in one or two cycles Apple will cut off 2GB RAM devices.

If you can wait it out Next Years iPad Pro with No Home Button and OLED Display should be Amazing the first 4K HDR OLED iPad Pro
OLED won't be next year
They need to get supply sorted for the new iphone first before OLED comes on the ipad. You are looking at 2019 at earliest.
 
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If you can wait it out Next Years iPad Pro with No Home Button and OLED Display should be Amazing the first 4K HDR OLED iPad Pro

You are correct, it would be amazing with those specifications, but it also won't happen in the next year either. (Being yield rates with OLED and the iPads were just refreshed.)
 
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ericwn

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Neither Both have 2GB RAM and will be obsolete and not supported with iOS updates in one or two cycles Apple will cut off 2GB RAM devices.

If you can wait it out Next Years iPad Pro with No Home Button and OLED Display should be Amazing the first 4K HDR OLED iPad Pro

Fun speculation without substance.
 
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My honest opinion is to go 2017 iPad and NOT get Apple Care (unless your mom drops her iPad a lot and you are afraid of the screen breaking).

People here on MR are almost always pushing “You need to get the more powerful one!” Or “OMG you need tru-tone!!” Or “AIRGAP!!!” But for a casual user (such as I presume is your mom coming from an iPad 2), you will hardly, or not at all, notice the difference. But what she will notice is the jump from the iPad 2 to the 2017 iPad.
 

rui no onna

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Did a similar upgrade for my dad (his was an iPad 3) and I chose the base 2017 iPad 32GB Wi-Fi. Works very well for his needs although I kinda wish I'd gotten him the LTE model.

Given the 2017 iPad has a notably bigger battery with a lower power CPU, I reckon battery degradation would be much less apparent, too. The iPad 3 was super slow and all, but battery was still strong when we traded it in. I think it actually had better battery life compared to my 1-year old iPad Pro 9.7. For his usage, I expect the 2017 iPad would probably still have 10-12 hours onscreen battery life even when it's 5 years old (he's getting around 16 right now).
 
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I'd take the 2017 model. Laminated display on the pro is overrated imo and batterylife is beter on the new one. The A9 is plenty fast for everyday use.

How is the laminated display overrated? It's primary sole function is to help with reflectivity in a brighter environment, which is pivotal if you are using the iPad in a brightly lit room or outside.
 
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NorthSeaBeach

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How is the laminated display overrated? It's primary sole function is to help with reflectivity in a brighter environment, which is pivotal if you are using the iPad in a brightly lit room or outside.

That's my experience. I have iPads with and without laminated displays in my household. I almost only use them indoors. I don't see much difference. Laminated display is a fingerprint magnet. For outside use it might be beneficiary.
 

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That's my experience. I have iPads with and without laminated displays in my household. I almost only use them indoors. I don't see much difference. Laminated display is a fingerprint magnet. For outside use it might be beneficiary.

The only other thing worth noting, is that the laminated display seems to have more of a plasticky feel when tapping the screen due to the Air gap. I have not experienced this yet, but others have said what the laminated display missing, it feels more plastic like when you're touching the display versus an iPad that does have the laminated display. But that's just something I have read others commenting on.
 

ayres

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I love the pro just for the four speakers! Way better sounding than the two-speaker design.
 
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