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What the 6K? A new 6K display????

If this will do picture-by-picture at 3072x3160 each, via two separate inputs, then I will very seriously consider purchasing for my home workstation PC which currently is running two 4K displays in portrait (plus two 1280p displays in portrait on each far side). Several ultrawides will do this but don't offer any resolution advantage over my two 4Ks, so hopefully this will.

Two high-res portrait displays without a seam down the middle would be excellent for me.
 
By the way, there were rumours of this from last summer.

tftcentral.co.uk

BOE Latest Panel Development Plans – July 2022 - TFTCentral

Share this contentWe have some updates from one of the smaller LCD panel manufacturers BOE about their panel development plans. This is BOE as a panel manufacturer, as opposed to....[click link for more]
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31.5″ panel with a 7680 x 4320 resolution (280 PPI), 350 cd/m2 brightness (400 cd/m2 peak) and a wide colour gamut covering 99% DCI-P3 and Adobe RGB. This should now be in production as of Q2 2022.
27″ panel with 5120 x 2880 resolution (210 PPI), 350 cd/m2 brightness, HDR 600 support (600 cd/m2 peak), 98% DCI-P3 colour gamut. This is listed for Q4 2022 production.
31.5″ panel with 6034 x 3384 resolution (210 PPI), 350 cd/m2 brightness, HDR 600 support (600 cd/m2 peak), 98% DCI-P3 colour gamut. This is listed for Q1 2023 production.
The 34″ ultrawide panel discussed above as well, with 5120 x 2160 resolution (160 PPI), 400 cd/m2 brightness, HDR 600 support (600 cd/m2 peak), 98% DCI-P3 colour gamut. This is listed for Q4 2022 production.

So we knew something was coming but I figured it’d cost somewhere well over CA$3000 (>US$2200) for the 6K so in the meantime I got a $700 (US$515) 4K+ 3:2 3840x2560 28” monitor instead.
 
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Here comes the PC users wondering if modern PCs could use this and Millisecond response is there! You know Linus will be reviewing this monitor when it comes out at CES!
 
deuce sluice said:
Aside from the Jaire Alexander-inspired comically oversized webcam hat, this thing could be nice. Especially the amount of connectivity (like ethernet!) it provides as a Thunderbolt dock.
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Haha I didn't realize Jaire wore that big hat. Yeah I do agree if you can get past the atrocious aesthetics, this can be a seriously nice monitor with high DPI, tons of connectivity, improved contrast (compared to regular iPS) and a bunch of other features.
 
MacGizmo said:
I'm guessing this Dell 6k will cost as much or more than Apple's Pro XDR.
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While it's no doubt going to be expensive, I don't think it will be as expensive as the XDR as it's lacking the HDR capabilities with no mini-LED and only 600 nits of brightness. I still think it should be a good option for those who want a high DPI 32" screen and don't do any HDR editing. That design though...
 
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I fear it won‘t be cheaper enough to be seriously considered vis-a-vis a used Pro XDR. Hope I‘m wrong.
 
MacGizmo said:
I'm guessing this Dell 6k will cost as much or more than Apple's Pro XDR.
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As others have noted, it should be fairly cheaper since it does not have multi-zone backlighting and cannot reach anywhere near the peak nor sustained brightness of the XDR.

Considering the Dell 8K 32" is ~$4000, my guess is this 6K display will come in around $3000.
 
It's nice to see DP 2.1 appearing on devices, and it's of course good practice to put the most modern available connection standard into an expensive display, but I'm curious if this provides any functional benefit.

DP 1.4 already offers enough bandwidth with DSC, as we've seen the XDR. Do they mean for this to be run without DSC, or is there some other functional advantage? I suppose if DP 3.x is backward-compatible with DP 2.x, but not DP 1.x ,the newer standard would provide some future-proofing, but these standards to tend to retain backward-compatability.
 
CWallace said:
As others have noted, it should be fairly cheaper since it does not have multi-zone backlighting and cannot reach anywhere near the peak nor sustained brightness of the XDR.

Considering the Dell 8K 32" is ~$4000, my guess is this 6K display will come in around $3000.
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That's my guess as well, but with the added benefit that, being a Dell, it might occasionally go on sale for ~$2500.
 
EugW said:
By the way, there were rumours of this from last summer.

tftcentral.co.uk

BOE Latest Panel Development Plans – July 2022 - TFTCentral

Share this contentWe have some updates from one of the smaller LCD panel manufacturers BOE about their panel development plans. This is BOE as a panel manufacturer, as opposed to....[click link for more]
tftcentral.co.uk tftcentral.co.uk

31.5″ panel with a 7680 x 4320 resolution (280 PPI), 350 cd/m2 brightness (400 cd/m2 peak) and a wide colour gamut covering 99% DCI-P3 and Adobe RGB. This should now be in production as of Q2 2022.
27″ panel with 5120 x 2880 resolution (210 PPI), 350 cd/m2 brightness, HDR 600 support (600 cd/m2 peak), 98% DCI-P3 colour gamut. This is listed for Q4 2022 production.
31.5″ panel with 6034 x 3384 resolution (210 PPI), 350 cd/m2 brightness, HDR 600 support (600 cd/m2 peak), 98% DCI-P3 colour gamut. This is listed for Q1 2023 production.
The 34″ ultrawide panel discussed above as well, with 5120 x 2160 resolution (160 PPI), 400 cd/m2 brightness, HDR 600 support (600 cd/m2 peak), 98% DCI-P3 colour gamut. This is listed for Q4 2022 production.

So we knew something was coming but I figured it’d cost somewhere well over CA$3000 (>US$2200) for the 6K so in the meantime I got a $700 (US$515) 4K+ 3:2 3840x2560 28” monitor instead.
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Still seems to be vaporware at this point, though. I've not heard a peep about these since then. Then again, I can't search the web in Chinese. Anyone who can want to take a look?
 
The known current specs work nicely for me. (600 nits (assuming it can do this all the time), IPS, HDR 600). And I would spring for $3K or so.

Questions (asking for speculation):
  • Do we believe that this monitor could be driven w/o issue by an M1 Pro MBP (just like the XDR can)?
  • Do we think that it will be done via TB cable?
  • What are we speculating the refresh rate will be?
  • And assuming that refresh rate is above 60hz, how confident are people that an M1 Pro device could drive a higher refresh rate?
  • Any guesses on release date - I know publications are saying Q2. Does that match up with how Dell normally does things? (I know nothing about Dell)

I'm not all that inclined to buy another monitor w/ only 60hz refresh or one that has a higher refresh than that but my devices can't achieve it.

Thanks.
 
tstafford said:
The known current specs work nicely for me. (600 nits (assuming it can do this all the time), IPS, HDR 600). And I would spring for $3K or so.

Questions (asking for speculation):
  • Do we believe that this monitor could be driven w/o issue by an M1 Pro MBP (just like the XDR can)?
  • Do we think that it will be done via TB cable?
  • What are we speculating the refresh rate will be?
  • And assuming that refresh rate is above 60hz, how confident are people that an M1 Pro device could drive a higher refresh rate?
  • Any guesses on release date - I know publications are saying Q2. Does that match up with how Dell normally does things? (I know nothing about Dell)

I'm not all that inclined to buy another monitor w/ only 60hz refresh or one that has a higher refresh than that but my devices can't achieve it.

Thanks.
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Refresh rate is 60 Hz:
arstechnica.com

Dell’s new UltraSharp monitor is a 6K powerhouse for pros [Updated]

The IPS Black monitor will likely be a cheaper rival to Apple’s Pro Display XDR.
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tstafford said:
Thanks. That article has a lot more info. Too many compromises for me - 60hz and 450 nits standard max brightness is a bridge too far unless it is like $2500. Guess I'm waiting on Apple to do something with mini-LED.
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It might actually get that low--$3000 retail could give a street price of $2500 when discounted.

Since I just need a large retina screen for text work, I assume the brightness and refresh would be fine for me. 120 Hz might be nice to reduce blur during scrolling, but I don't know how much visual difference it would actually make.

The main thing for me is that it's matte only, and I prefer glossy unless the matte is light enough not to be noticeable. [Apple's nano-textured finish is better at reducing background reflections than any other surface I've seen, so it's great for photo/video work. But the tradeoff is that it's so heavy that it causes a distracting sparkly background, and also reduces text sharpness to an extent sufficient for me to notice. These characteristics make it unacceptable for me.]
 
theorist9 said:
It might actually get that low--$3000 retail could give a street price of $2500 when discounted.

Since I just need a large retina screen for text work, I assume the brightness and refresh would be fine for me. 120 Hz might be nice to reduce blur during scrolling, but I don't know how much visual difference it would actually make.

The main thing for me is that it's matte only, and I prefer glossy unless the matte is light enough not to be noticeable. [Apple's nano-textured finish is better at reducing background reflections than any other surface I've seen, so it's great for photo/video work. But the tradeoff is that it's so heavy that it causes a distracting sparkly background, and also reduces text sharpness to an extent sufficient for me to notice. These characteristics make it unacceptable for me.]
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I'm with you on all of that. I have glossy ASDs and have zero issue with reflection because of the shades in my office. Glossy is just better. Side note the Samsung 5K will be matte as well.

I'm going to keep an open mind on the Dell. I have zero interest in any monitor that isn't 5K or above at this point but I'd like 32", promotion and 600 nits. Nothing fits that bill (or even close) right now.

I have a suspicion that in about six months the choice will be either 27" Apple w/ promotion 5K or 32" Dell 6K at approximately the same price. Will be tempted to replace my middle ASD with one of them, but not sure which (leaning toward Apple because I have enough real estate). Anything over about $2,500 and I might just tap out and stick with the ASD.
 
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Looks like generally the guesses I've seen on price look like they may be right. According to this Dell Price Report, MSRP looks to be around $3200 (so a mid $2k price tag on discount seems likely at some point).


Noticed this spec sheet is now available too, hadn't seen this before. All that's left is a release date (and the hope that some day they make one without that hideous forehead / speakers + camera).

Honestly, I'm more tempted by their older 8k monitor having recently learned that the M2 Pro & M2 Max support it (granted it requires 2 USB-C to DP cables and takes up 2 TB4 ports, but it's a less hideous high res option.)

 
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rumz said:
Looks like generally the guesses I've seen on price look like they may be right. According to this Dell Price Report, MSRP looks to be around $3200 (so a mid $2k price tag on discount seems likely at some point).
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What's the SKU? I searched that Price Report for "u3224kb" and got no hits.

rumz said:
Noticed this spec sheet is now available too, hadn't seen this before. All that's left is a release date (and the hope that some day they make one without that hideous forehead / speakers + camera).
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Plus that speaker grill is cloth (!). If you had a multi-display setup with three of those, with that camera it would look like you're being monitored by our AI overlords.

Dell previously said it would be released 1H 2023.

rumz said:
Honestly, I'm more tempted by their older 8k monitor having recently learned that the M2 Pro & M2 Max support it (granted it requires 2 USB-C to DP cables and takes up 2 TB4 ports, but it's a less hideous high res option.)
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I've read that text on it is beautifully sharp. But at 280 ppi and 2:1 scalng, the UI on that will be very small -- some say too small at typical viewing distances. That could be corrected without sharpness loss if MacOS offered 3:1 scaling but, alas, it does not.
 
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What's the SKU? I searched that Price Report for "u3224kb" and got no hits.
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Yeah I had to open that PDF in Acrobat reader on my Mac to really search it, it just crashed on my iPad Pro :S. (What does it have, 20,000 pages?)

This is what I found. You can actually find several items that contain U3224KB— most of them are parts or warranty prices or something.

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theorist9 said:
Plus that speaker grill is cloth (!). If you had a multi-display setup with three of those, with that camera it would look like you're being monitored by our AI overlords.

Dell previously said it would be released 1H 2023.


I've read that text on it is beautifully sharp. But at 280 ppi and 2:1 scalng, the UI on that will be very small -- some say too small at typical viewing distances. That could be corrected without sharpness loss if MacOS offered 3:1 scaling but, alas, it does not.
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Yeah. You can at least ignore that the Studio Display has a camera build in in a multi-monitor setup. Eesh. And yeah— 1H 2023, just nothing more specific yet that I’ve seen. I expect if they meet that timeline it might be late June or perhaps even early July… guess we’ll see!

As for the 8k monitor, I’d have to see how small the UI gets when running it 4k HiDPI (280 ppi). If it‘s not too small, I might not mind it. I just don’t like it when the interface scales larger (for example, default resolution on a 4k 27” monitor).

I also wonder what size / density that rumored 7k display would have been. As some have noted, the current gen MBPs are running at a higher PPI than 218. (What is it… 254 ppi?)
 
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