Currently running a couple 2008 Mac Pros. Great boxes. Haven't looked too closely at the new Mac Pro. But on the limited research I have done, I don't know if the Mac Pro line is for me any longer. First, is it me, or are these new Mac Pros pricier than in the past? Or about the same as prior models? I can't remember what I paid for my 3,1 aluminum boxes, maybe it was the same. Bigger issue, lack of options, expandability and tinkering. Seems to me the new Mac Pro is even more geared towards pros in the editing and compiling businesses. I have no problem with that. But looking back, it seems to me the older Mac Pros had optionality for home-based pros who know their way around boxes and could set them up as servers, gaming machines, hubs, etc. We could swap out video cards, keeping the machine updated and relevant. Easily replace stock drives with aftermarket SSDs, and slap in three more SSDs via the sleds. Memory, easily upgradeable. It was great. Doesn't seem that way with the new Mac Pro. Not looking to rehash that large thread about upgrading. But looking at the FirePro cards, for example, seriously, I just don't need them, nor do I need or want to drive three 4k displays. Can I outfit this thing with a high-end prosumer card? It doesn't look easy. Minimum 12GB RAM? Why can't I buy it like before, just a couple of sticks (4 GB) and let me buy some aftermarket RAM, as I see fit? Hard drives, I'd need SSDs, and would prefer to be able to swap them out. Doesn't seem like I can do that with this machine, or at least not easily. And that is some damn expensive storage. Do I really need SSS? Don't know. So, I'm unsure if this machine is for me. Assume it isn't. What now? What Apple machine do we go to now, one that gives us a powerful desktop that we can mold to our needs, without spending superfluously on stuff we definitely don't need? Really am not interested in iMac, can't upgrade it and I've already got Apple LED displays. Macmini, that thing is way underpowered for what we do. So where do we turn? What's in the lineup for us?