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pwbk5

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I have a Powerbook G4 version 10.4.11. I haven't had virus software on it and was wondering what I should get. This is the first and only mac I have had and am really not that familiar with macs. Thanks!
 
You dont need any. Totally unecessary. There are currently no viruses for Macs. Any sort of antivirus will just slow down the system; and for absolutely no reason either, considering there aren’t any viruses for it to find.
There are a few threads around here from people that haven’t done their research and installed antivirus software on their Macs, only for the system to become really unresponsive. I bet most, if not all, members here use their Macs with no antivirus software, and I bet there won’t be a single reply in this topic that actually recommends you any.
 
i use ClamXav, i kno AV software 4 mac isnt necesssary but i just use it 2 scan my downloads. it makes me feel safe especially cumin 4rm windows, whatever helps u sleep at night
 
You can try a combinaiton of Avira Antivir Free (it's free for personal use) + SpyBoot. Or even the free version of SuperAntiSpyware.
 
I suppose you would need some kind of antivirus if you download and install pirated software or other hacked stuff. Other than that, it's extremely rare. I got a worm on my system a few years ago but it wasn't doing much damage. Didn't even know I had it until a service bureau called to say that a disc I had dropped off was infected. The worm was just slowing down my machine until I managed to find it.
 
THERE ARE NO VIRUSES on OSX.

Since there are no viruses, anti-virus cannot determine what is a virus at this time.

Giz Explains: Why OS X Shrugs Off Viruses Better Than Windows
http://i.gizmodo.com/5101337/giz-explains-why-os-x-shrugs-off-viruses-better-than-windows

The Mac Malware Myth
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/01/29/the-mac-malware-myth/

The Unavoidable Malware Myth
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/...-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/

Road to Mac OS X Snow Leopard: 64-bit security
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/01/16/road_to_mac_os_x_snow_leopard_64_bit_security.html
 
There are currently no viruses for Macs.
That's not entirely true.
Actually, it IS true. There are no viruses that exist in the wild that affect Mac OS X.
Malware ≠ viruses.
Completely true.
I suppose you would need some kind of antivirus if you download and install pirated software or other hacked stuff
While it's dangerous and foolish to download and install pirated apps, no antivirus app can protect your Mac, because they don't detect Mac viruses, only Windows viruses. Consultant is right: You can't detect something that doesn't exist.
 
Do you think the average user cares about major nitpicking like that? It still harms your computer without your knowledge of it being there, to 99.99% of the population thats a virus. Thats like getting into hacking vs cracking, nobody cares what the technical differences are.

Not to mention when people talk about "viruses" on Windows they are actually talking about trojans.
 
Do you think the average user cares about major nitpicking like that? It still harms your computer without your knowledge of it being there, to 99.99% of the population thats a virus.

Except, a trojan REQUIRES user-interaction to become installed - especially on a Mac, where you have to enter your admin password.

In the Windows world, you can get a virus sent to you, installed, and passed on to all of your friends without ever noticing ... that's not nitpicking, that's a major difference.
 
Blah blah blah. Everyone likes to say "Macs are virus free! Yaaaay!" The fact is, Macs are not free from all malware.

Check it out for yourself and surf the ClamXav forums for which trojans are covered in their virus def updates.

Also, IMO, it falls on the socially responsible side to not pass on a virus to an unsuspecting Window's user.

:)
 
...It still harms your computer without your knowledge of it being there, to 99.99% of the population thats a virus.
Absolutely untrue. The only way to be "infected" by a trojan is for the user to download it, install it and enter their admin password to authorize it, so they have full knowledge of its presence. That's quite different from a virus, which can install itself without the user's involvement.
Everyone likes to say "Macs are virus free! Yaaaay!" The fact is, Macs are not free from all malware.
Check it out for yourself and surf the ClamXav forums for which trojans are covered in their virus def updates.
No one says that Macs are free from all malware. They only say (accurately) that they are free from VIRUSES. The biggest threat to Mac OS security is the user.
 
so they have full knowledge of its presence.

Adding to this ...

They may not know exactly what they have (malware), but they do know it is there ... and since you can't get a trojan from a legitimate source ... any educated user will know the risks.
 
Absolutely untrue. The only way to be "infected" by a trojan is for the user to download it, install it and enter their admin password to authorize it, so they have full knowledge of its presence. That's quite different from a virus, which can install itself without the user's involvement.

No one says that Macs are free from all malware. They only say (accurately) that they are free from VIRUSES. The biggest threat to Mac OS security is the user.
But the user doesn't enter it in, knowing it's a trojan. The trojan doesn't show a message "Please type in your password to install this trojan to your computer." The user does not know he/she has anything harmful on their computer.
 
But the user doesn't enter it in, knowing it's a trojan. The trojan doesn't show a message "Please type in your password to install this trojan to your computer." The user does not know he/she has anything harmful on their computer.

See my post above:

and since you can't get a trojan from a legitimate source ... any educated user will know the risks.
 
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